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Amish.

  • 23-04-2014 11:07pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭ardle1


    Amish: A Secret Life.

    Rté 1, Right now....
    I find it very interesting and fascinating!
    What do you think?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    Are they the country folk from the america?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,336 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    “'Tis a fine barn, but sure 'tis no pool, English.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    Are they the country folk from the america?

    Yes and they picked a seemingly arbitrary stage in technological development from the last 5000 years and decided it was the correct one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    They're fcukin crazy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    Sky King wrote: »
    Yes and they picked a seemingly arbitrary stage in technological development from the last 5000 years and decided it was the correct one.

    Nothing wrong with simple living, they dont live in a 3 bed semi in negative equity.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Sky King wrote: »
    Yes and they picked a seemingly arbitrary stage in technological development from the last 5000 years and decided it was the correct one.

    It's not a bad stage - sort of wooden lego, with bushy beards and lemonade. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    They're fcukin crazy.

    Crazy rich... takes dosh to have 200 kids and a kitchen like the QE2. No cars? Yeah right -they hide them round the back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    Nothing wrong with simple living

    There is when you get Tuberculosis or some sh!t.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Religious nutters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭The_Pretender


    Live and let live, so long as they don't negatively effect me then I don't give a fcuk.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    Sky King wrote: »
    There is when you get Tuberculosis

    You dont have to be amish to contract tb you know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Lapin wrote: »
    Religious nutters.


    Ah yes, Someone has chosen to live a lifestyle different from yours, therefore they must be nutters....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭Snake


    Sure it's their choice really.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Ah yes, Someone has chosen to live a lifestyle different from yours, therefore they must be nutters....

    Spot on.

    You got it in one !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    I Sham.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭Kathnora


    Didn't see the programme but I have visited Amish regions in Pennysylvania and Indiana so I have seen how they live and spoken to them too. They are very peaceful and simple living people...not nutters as stated above. And, they don't have cars out the back but use horse buggies and bicycles as well as public transport. It wouldn't suit me to live that way but I respect their choices.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    I Sham.

    Is that an amish i phone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    You dont have to be amish to contract tb you know.

    How do they treat it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    Sky King wrote: »
    How do they treat it?

    Which amish people or the rest of the world people?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    If everyone in the world lived the same way it would be a boring,boring place.people like the Amish are fascinating and help keep my love of the world alive


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    Ah yes, Someone has chosen to live a lifestyle different from yours, therefore they must be nutters....

    In fairness, their lifestyle is a bit mad. From what I understand, they don't educate their children past a certain age, which leaves a lot of them in a pretty precarious position if they decide to leave the community. The only skills they have are outdated and they barely have a second level education, never mind a third level one, and the education they do have tends to revolve around the bible. I know it's all part of the lifestyle, but I imagine life can be pretty difficult for those who are raised Amish and decide they don't want to be anymore. They're not really all that well equipped to adapt to the real world, from what I gather.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,474 ✭✭✭✭gammygils


    Is anyone besides me thinking of the movie "Kingpin"
    "But we don't have a cow.... We've got a bull"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭Snake


    In fairness, their lifestyle is a bit mad. From what I understand, they don't educate their children past a certain age, which leaves a lot of them in a pretty precarious position if they decide to leave the community. The only skills they have are outdated and they barely have a second level education, never mind a third level one, and the education they do have tends to revolve around the bible. I know it's all part of the lifestyle, but I imagine life can be pretty difficult for those who are raised Amish and decide they don't want to be anymore. They're not really all that well equipped to adapt to the real world, from what I gather.

    Sure that's the case with most cultures. They have a right to live their lives their way, and in fairness, you'd hate it someone told you how to live your life.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Sure that's the case with most cultures. They have a right to live their lives their way, and in fairness, you'd hate it someone told you how to live your life.

    Who's telling anyone how to live their lives here ?

    The OP simply asked us what we thought of them.

    I gave my reply, (which would also apply to most people whose lifestyle revolves around religous beliefs).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    In fairness, their lifestyle is a bit mad. From what I understand, they don't educate their children past a certain age, which leaves a lot of them in a pretty precarious position if they decide to leave the community. The only skills they have are outdated and they barely have a second level education, never mind a third level one, and the education they do have tends to revolve around the bible. I know it's all part of the lifestyle, but I imagine life can be pretty difficult for those who are raised Amish and decide they don't want to be anymore. They're not really all that well equipped to adapt to the real world, from what I gather.


    - Allowed leave education at 16 and many rarely enter third level education

    - Outdated skills taught by an even more outdated curriculum

    - Education tends to revolve around religion, culture tends to revolve around religion

    - Ill equipped to adapt to the real world and modern society...


    One could almost be forgiven for thinking you were talking about Ireland there!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,565 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    OP you should watch that AMish Mafia show on Discovery, now that's mental.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭Snake


    Lapin wrote: »
    Who's telling anyone how to live their lives here ?

    The OP simply asked us what we thought of them.

    I gave my reply, (which would also apply to most people whose lifestyle revolves around religous beliefs).

    Fine; *you wouldn't like if someone said the way you choose to live your life was mad.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Fine; *you wouldn't like if someone said the way you choose to live your life was mad.

    I'd be the first to agree with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    They are a peaceful people and keep to themselves. Personally, I don't like the way children are kept ignorant from the 'real world' but frankly they are completely harmless. It's sects and cults that scare me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭dpofloinn


    I dont get this new fetish for ''Amish'' shows that TV land seems to have at the moment. However I cant wait for TV3s offerings ''My Big fat Amish gypsy wedding'', ''Amish Dole scum'',''24 hours in Amish A&E'' ,''Bare Knuckle Amish'' and ''Amish banged up abroad''


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    dpofloinn wrote: »
    I dont get this new fetish for ''Amish'' shows that TV land seems to have at the moment. However I cant wait for TV3s offerings ''My Big fat Amish gypsy wedding'', ''Amish Dole scum'',''24 hours in Amish A&E'' ,''Bare Knuckle Amish'' and ''Amish banged up abroad''

    Amish A&E might have some production issues if they refuse to go there due to some of them spurring medical treatment.

    Amish Banged up Abroad mightn't be too far from the way things are for many of them already. Not quite banged up, but life is restricted for many of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭dpofloinn


    Lapin wrote: »
    Amish A&E might have some production issues if they refuse to go there due to some of them spurring medical treatment.

    Amish Banged up Abroad mightn't be too far from the way things are for many of them already. Not quite banged up, but life is restricted for many of them.

    If TLC and other such channels cant find Amish to go on these shows they just hire them its win win because the Amish cant watch them so who would ever know. You just have to look at shows that already exhist like ''Amish Mafia'' and ''Breaking Amish'' utter scutter


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    - Allowed leave education at 16 and many rarely enter third level education

    - Outdated skills taught by an even more outdated curriculum

    - Education tends to revolve around religion, culture tends to revolve around religion

    - Ill equipped to adapt to the real world and modern society...


    One could almost be forgiven for thinking you were talking about Ireland there!

    That's not really a fair comparison. It's become very much the norm to have a third level education in Ireland nowadays, and you at least have the option to go to go to college, which a lot if people avail of. There wouldn't be many who don't at least have a leaving cert growing up in Ireland now. We're not restricted in what we can or can't do here. At least we have the option to read books that aren't the bible if we want to, or learn skills and engage in activities that don't just revolve around housekeeping and agriculture. We have far more options that enable us to function in the real world. Do you really think there is any comparison between how a young Irish person of today manages in the modern world and a young Amish person?

    I dont mind what the Amish do, but this idea that they just live the "simple life" and that's all there is to it doesn't seem totally accurate.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    Yon morning dith I receive telegram letter from gentleman named Pwnreligious7798 from town of youtube reading as follows 'you are a fag Nietzsche nd Dawkins ftw lol'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    dpofloinn wrote: »
    I dont get this new fetish for ''Amish'' shows that TV land seems to have at the moment. However I cant wait for TV3s offerings ''My Big fat Amish gypsy wedding'', ''Amish Dole scum'',''24 hours in Amish A&E'' ,''Bare Knuckle Amish'' and ''Amish banged up abroad''

    Don't forget the Amish buggy races on the interstate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,167 ✭✭✭✭Witcher




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,110 ✭✭✭Electric Sheep


    That's not really a fair comparison. It's become very much the norm to have a third level education in Ireland nowadays, and you at least have the option to go to go to college, which a lot if people avail of. There wouldn't be many who don't at least have a leaving cert growing up in Ireland now. We're not restricted in what we can or can't do here. At least we have the option to read books that aren't the bible if we want to, or learn skills and engage in activities that don't just revolve around housekeeping and agriculture. We have far more options that enable us to function in the real world. Do you really think there is any comparison between how a young Irish person of today manages in the modern world and a young Amish person?

    I dont mind what the Amish do, but this idea that they just live the "simple life" and that's all there is to it doesn't seem totally accurate.
    Yet we hear all the irish whinge that they can't stay for life in mummy's neighborshood. The Amish can, maybe that is how it is done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    I saw a documentary about them before on PBS America. It was fascinating how on the one hand they visited the family of a man who carried out a terrible Amish school shooting to tell them they forgave them, but on the other hand they shun their own children if they catch them listening to a radio or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,847 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    - Allowed leave education at 16 and many rarely enter third level education

    - Outdated skills taught by an even more outdated curriculum

    - Education tends to revolve around religion, culture tends to revolve around religion

    - Ill equipped to adapt to the real world and modern society...


    One could almost be forgiven for thinking you were talking about Ireland there!
    They have loads of skills.

    The men are excellent farmers, carpenters and horsemen.

    They also produce highly sought after woodcraft which they sell to tourists.

    Women are great cooks, quilt makers/embroidery, these are also sold to tourists.

    I think they are pretty sound business people behind it all.

    Yes, what they consider an acceptable level of education is a long way from ours.

    But I feel a good honest work ethic will always kick the carp out of hanging around a university* for four years windbagging about some flavour of the month leftie idealism.


    * Bankrolled by the bank of mommy and daddy of course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    - Allowed leave education at 16 and many rarely enter third level education
    Thanks be to God, we've enough useless graduates.
    - Outdated skills taught by an even more outdated curriculum
    Not quite as outdated as an arts degree...
    - Education tends to revolve around religion, culture tends to revolve around religion
    As opposed to Islam, or any other world religion..who never mention it..or our culture, which seems to revolve around drink..
    - Ill equipped to adapt to the real world and modern society...
    Their wealth appears to contradict this a bit.

    One could almost be forgiven for thinking you were talking about Ireland there!
    :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    There's a Mennonite/Amish community down in Waterford. According to their website they have a congregation of about 300 but I don't know how many of those are 'living the way'. They have a few local businesses, bakeries, carpentry, farming, that sort of thing. It doesn't seem hardline religious, more regular prayer than zealotry. I find it very interesting anyway. Seems like a nice community to grow up in. As far as I can see it's just a slower/simpler way of life, which is no bad thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,553 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    We travel to the USA state of Delaware every six months for training, just down from the training centre is a farmers market with an Amish section inside it, they bring all of their grown or produced products there to sell, their sausages, pies and cakes are great :) Plus they appear to be extremely quiet and well mannered. Looking forward to going back next month :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,196 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    I think you'll find they're the diametric opposite of nutters. Ach, English!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    dpofloinn wrote: »
    I dont get this new fetish for ''Amish'' shows that TV land seems to have at the moment. However I cant wait for TV3s offerings ''My Big fat Amish gypsy wedding'', ''Amish Dole scum'',''24 hours in Amish A&E'' ,''Bare Knuckle Amish'' and ''Amish banged up abroad''
    for a crowd that don't like technology, they're rarely off the tv


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 896 ✭✭✭Fuzzytrooper


    Yeah I know the Dunmore East group and they're a lovely genuine bunch. Also....I couldn't resist


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Clayton Spicy Minion


    The nice ones seem nice. The nutty ones seem nutty
    Was it them or mennonites that were denied counselling by their own communities after the mass rapes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    It's hard work and sacrifice living in an Amish paradise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    I hear their weemens are demons in the sack. Or so watching Banshee has learned me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,068 ✭✭✭LoonyLovegood


    I met a couple of Amish girls when I was in the US a few years ago, they were all my own age, fifteen/sixteen or so. I still write letters to two of them, and emails to one (who left the community when she was eighteen). They're really lovely people, and I admire that they can have such firm beliefs in a world that's increasingly non-religious and technologically based.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    OP you should watch that AMish Mafia show on Discovery, now that's mental.
    It's contrived rubbish for entertainment.


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