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Does The Queen Still Own Ireland?

  • 22-04-2014 10:39PM
    #1
    UCDCritic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭


    Someone once told me that although we gained our political indepdance the queen and others still owned the land.

    Any truth to this?

    Take for example the issue with rental outlets and how the rent can only ever go up, why is that the case? It sounds completely unfair, like the deal a colonial power would make.

    I also heard that when you buy a house you're really only renting it for 99 years and after that time it goes back to the queen.

    Please don't give me a lot of stick for this post if it's completely wrong.


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  • #2
    Judgement Day
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    Oh dear. :D


  • #3
    tomwaterford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    UCDCritic wrote: »
    Someone once told me that although we gained our political indepdance the queen and others still owned the land.

    Any truth to this?

    Take for example the issue with rental outlets and how the rent can only ever go up, why is that the case? It sounds completely unfair, like the deal a colonial power would make.

    I also heard that when you buy a house you're really only renting it for 99 years and after that time it goes back to the queen.

    Please don't give me a lot of stick for this post if it's completely wrong.

    sounds like complete bollix to me....youd do well to find someone else to listen to


  • #4
    B.A._Baracus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Wind up threads used to be better in After Hours :pac:


  • #5
    Slicemeister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Slicemeister


    Roll it there Roisin.


  • #6
    Renegade Mechanic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    Sweet baby Jesus this gon' be good!:D


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  • #7
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    You probably mean the Crown Estate, which the queen doesn't own.

    No, it does not own any land in Ireland.


  • #8
    kingchess
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭kingchess


    true,the queen is kicking my grand uncle out of his house-the house he was born and reared in and lived in for the last 87 years-he is not happy but what can you do?,the law is the law.she might have to spend a few bob to bring it up to scratch but it should drive up house prices in the parish


  • #9
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    She has an Emerald in her crown as well.Hmmm.


  • #10
    c_man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    UCDCritic wrote: »
    I also heard that when you buy a house you're really only renting it for 99 years and after that time it goes back to the queen.

    True. Just last week she kicked my old Granny out of her house and moved Charles and Camilla in :mad:


  • #11
    glued
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,446 ✭✭✭glued


    UCDCritic wrote: »
    Someone once told me that although we gained our political indepdance the queen and others still owned the land.

    Any truth to this?

    Take for example the issue with rental outlets and how the rent can only ever go up, why is that the case? It sounds completely unfair, like the deal a colonial power would make.

    I also heard that when you buy a house you're really only renting it for 99 years and after that time it goes back to the queen.

    Please don't give me a lot of stick for this post if it's completely wrong.

    Hi, have you just discovered a time machine or something?

    Give Padraig Pearse my regards


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  • #12
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Do you eat everything you see OP?


  • #13
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I honestly thought this was a Teddy Tedson thread when I read the title.

    The Queen is not the boss of me anyway.


  • #14
    RobbingBandit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Not sure if appropriate. :rolleyes:



  • #15
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Everyone knows your man Stephen from braveheart owns the island of Ireland. It's his island.

    Keep up.


  • #16
    Aongus Von Bismarck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    It's the calibre of question I'd expect from a UCD graduate to be honest.


  • #17
    forgotten password
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,094 ✭✭✭forgotten password


    my Guinness is evaporating


  • #18
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    She only own a few counties, 6 or thereabouts.


  • #19
    sdanseo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,299 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    UCDCritic wrote: »
    Someone once told me that although we gained our political indepdance the queen and others still owned the land.

    Any truth to this?

    Take for example the issue with rental outlets and how the rent can only ever go up, why is that the case? It sounds completely unfair, like the deal a colonial power would make.

    I also heard that when you buy a house you're really only renting it for 99 years and after that time it goes back to the queen.

    Please don't give me a lot of stick for this post if it's completely wrong.

    I'd love to know where you got your information. Did you read it in a column by Kevin Myers or did you just make all this up as you went along?


  • #20
    smcgiff
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭smcgiff


    I think the OP is getting mixed up with ground rent title claims. This is still causing problems in places.

    There'a US trucker claiming the land my father's shop is built on because he is related to some long dead absentee landlord. Kid you not.


  • #21
    Custardpi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    The OP may possibly be thinking of ground rent. I've heard that in some cases the land may still technically be owned by a British landlord, who could well be aristocratic, though I don't know how common this still is. I'd imagine that at this stage a lot of that historic ground rent would have been bought out where possible anyway.


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  • #22
    Yellowblackbird
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Yellowblackbird


    I seem to remember reading something similar a while back - thread in history forum.


  • #23
    LeBash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,805 ✭✭✭LeBash


    Yup, she bought it for a buck 53 in yonder


  • #24
    LeBash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,805 ✭✭✭LeBash


    Yup, she bought it for a buck 53 in yonder


  • #25
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    A lot of the boglands would still be owned by the landed gentry across the way with local farmers having turbary and grazing rights.


  • #26
    Lapin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,183 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    UCDCritic wrote: »

    I also heard that when you buy a house you're really only renting it for 99 years and after that time it goes back to the queen.

    Yep.

    I bought my house 8 years ago.

    On the deeds it says I have to meet the Queen on Tuesday 16th of June 2105 after the last race at Royal Ascot and hand her back the keys.

    Must remember to book the day off work.


  • #27
    Custardpi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    A lot of the boglands would still be owned by the landed gentry across the way with local farmers having turbary rights.

    Interesting, has there ever been any proposals to buy it out?


  • #28
    tomwaterford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    A lot of the boglands would still be owned by the landed gentry across the way with local farmers having turbary rights.

    we even have the ridicolus situation of the duke/what ever he/she is that owns Lismore castle owns the blackwater....the only river in the world that is owned


  • #29
    PropJoe10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,651 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    *gets popcorn


  • #30
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Peregrine Andrew Mornington Cavendish, the 12th Duke of Devonshire 'owns' a stretch of the Blackwater River in Munster and charges anglers for the pleasure of fishing 'his' river.


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  • #31
    tomwaterford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Lapin wrote: »
    Yep.

    I bought my house 8 years ago.

    On the deeds it says I have to meet the Queen on Tuesday 16th of June 2105 after the last race at Royal Ascot and hand her back the keys.

    Must remember to book the day off work.

    you should be safe to hold on for another 90 odd years
    (assuming OPs info is correct)


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