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Programme recommendation please

  • 21-04-2014 12:40PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭


    Howdy

    looking for some guidance if it's going :)

    Got a plan from one of the trainers in the gym, looking to change it up as now just at 5 weeks but my trainer is off for the month, tried a different trainer and they just put a rake of cardio down, bit boring and I lose interest quickly....

    Currently 68kg, 5ft 1, female. Hit the gym 4/5 days a week, have lost about 5kg since the new year, weight is not as important as size to me so would like to drop another 2 dress sizes ideally.

    Current programme, alternating days and currently doing c25k 2/3 a week, usually on upper body days.

    Day 1
    A1) Kneeling Cable Row​​​​ 10-12​​
    A2) Straight Arm Pull Down​​​ 10-12​​
    A3) Kneeling Cable Row​​​​ AMRP​​
    3 sets of the above

    B1) Lying Tricep Extension DB​​​ 10-12​​
    B2) Tricep Press Down​​​​ 10-12​​
    B3) Lying Tricep Extension DB​​​ AMRP​​
    3 sets of the above

    Day 2
    A1) Leg Extension​​​​ ​10-12​​
    A2) Step Up​​​​​ 10-12​​
    A3) Leg Extension​​​​ AMRP​ ​
    3 sets of the above

    B1) Leg Curl 10-12​​
    B2) Alternating Leg Lunges​​​3​ 10-12​​
    B3) Leg Curl AMRP​​
    3 sets of the above

    C) Plank to push up​​​​ 10-12​​
    2 sets

    Any input or website/YouTube recommendations would be much appreciated. Thanks


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,226 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Losing bodyfat/weight/size will largely be dictated by diet.

    If you like your current program, and feel it's working. Then why bother changing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭Wexy86


    Mellor wrote: »
    Losing bodyfat/weight/size will largely be dictated by diet.

    If you like your current program, and feel it's working. Then why bother changing it.

    Thanks for the reply, I understand the diet part.

    With regard changing up my routine, please excuse my ignorance, I'm new to the weights :) but I was under the impression it should be changed up every few weeks and this is what I have been doing since Christmas. again this is just from my gym trainer😳This is my 3rd routine since the new year, do ye think is been changing up too often? To be fair this one has actually been my favourite as it's the hardest, maybe I was just being eased in!

    Would you recommend upping weights or reps first?
    Thanks again!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,226 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    There's no need to change a program frequently imo.
    If you like it stick with it.
    If you can manage all the sets at your current weight, then up the weight slightly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,912 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Mellor wrote: »
    There's no need to change a program frequently imo.
    If you like it stick with it.
    If you can manage all the sets at your current weight, then up the weight slightly.

    ^ He speaketh the truth.

    Upping the weight is changing the workout. So if the exercises are working for you, just add more weight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭RidleyRider


    I'd disagree. Change the stimulus. Be it different exercises, rep ranges etc.. You'll plateau keeping this up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,912 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    The OP is only 5 wks in and is worried about going another 4wks with the same set of exercises. A beginner doesn't need to change the set of exercises every within 9 weeks.

    Most programmes for beginners 12 weeks.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,173 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    The OP is only 5 wks in and is worried about going another 4wks with the same set of exercises. A beginner doesn't need to change the set of exercises every within 9 weeks.

    Yup, agree.

    Most programmes for beginners 12 weeks.

    A sensible programme can last longer than 12 weeks

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,912 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Brian? wrote: »
    A sensible programme can last longer than 12 weeks

    Definitely. I just meant that they specify 12 weeks but it's never suggested that's the limit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Squat Rack Curler


    The routine sucks..
    All muscle groups arent being targetted and the exercise selection is poor.

    I would also recommend a full body routine 3-4x a week instead of an upper/lower for your level.

    Can you not do squats because of injury or did the trainer just not implement them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭Wexy86


    Can you not do squats because of injury or did the trainer just not implement them?

    Just never implemented them time round..... here's the last routine that had squats involved....

    Day 1:​​​​​​Sets​ ​Reps​​ Rest
    A1) Heels Elevated DB Squat​​​ 3​​ 6​​ 10secs​
    A2) Leg Press​​​​​ 3​​ 12​​ 10secs
    A3) H.E. Prisoner Squat​​​​ 3​ ​25​​ 120secs

    B1) Leg Curl (Toes in)​​​​ 3​​ 6​​ 10secs
    B2) Leg Curl (Toes out)​​​ ​ 3​​ 12​​ 10secs
    B3) Back Extenision​​​​ 3​​ 25​ ​120secs

    C1) Hanging Leg Raise​​​​ 2​​ 10-12​ ​10secs
    C2) Ab Crunch​​​​​ 2​​ 12-15​​ 60secs

    Day 2:​​​​​​Sets​ ​Reps​​ Rest
    A1) Standing DB Shoulder Press ​​​3​​ 6​​ 10secs
    A2) 45˚ Incline DB Press​​​​3​​ 12​​ 10secs
    A3) Flat DB Press​​​​3​​ 25​​ 120secs

    B1) Wide Grip Pulldown​​​​ 3 6​​ 10secs
    B2) Narrow Grip Pulldown​​​3​​ 12​​ 10secs​
    B3) Standing Row​​ ​​3​​ 25​​ 120secs


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Squat Rack Curler


    Have you been taught the barbell squat?
    The barbell squat is the single best leg exercise so really should be fundamental in every routine.
    Can I ask what your goals are? Are you looking to "tone" the whole body?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,226 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I'd disagree. Change the stimulus. Be it different exercises, rep ranges etc.. You'll plateau keeping this up.

    There's a point at which changing ca be beneficial, but it's not after 5 weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭RidleyRider


    Mellor wrote: »
    There's a point at which changing ca be beneficial, but it's not after 5 weeks.

    Mind didn't even register that:pac: for some reason I was thinking they were on it since new year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭Wexy86


    Have you been taught the barbell squat?

    Can I ask what your goals are? Are you looking to "tone" the whole body?

    No haven't been taught, is this something u could teach myself from YouTube and the likes or should I wait for a decent trainer to show me so at lest I'll know of my form is decent?

    Toned everywhere is the long term goal but right now it's just to lose weight and reduce my size!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Dermighty


    Wexy86 wrote: »
    No haven't been taught, is this something u could teach myself from YouTube and the likes or should I wait for a decent trainer to show me so at lest I'll know of my form is decent?

    Toned everywhere is the long term goal but right now it's just to lose weight and reduce my size!

    As someone who only recently got a grip on the technique of a barbell squat I can say that most (all but two) I've talked to don't know how to teach a squat and don't know how to do a squat either.

    Just because someone is lifting a certain amount of weight doesn't mean they're doing it right so I would recommend getting instruction as getting the technique right as early as possible is a much better way of getting results.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Squat Rack Curler


    I learned the squat myself without too much trouble but any competent pt should be able to teach you.

    Ask your trainer to show you leg press(for quadriceps), romanian deadlift(glutes and hamstrings at hip joint), leg curls(hamstrings at knee joint) and lunges. This aswell as squats is essentially all you need for lower body.


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