Woman having an abortion to appear on big brother

Duck Soup · 20-04-2014 01:30PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

The woman says she's having an abortion for the sake of her career.

If she was a young pregnant woman about to go to medical school would we all be as outraged?

No, we wouldn't be as outraged. No, being a reality show contestant isn't a career.

mikom · 20-04-2014 01:30PM

Be thankful it's not twins................ It could have been a double eviction.

osarusan · 20-04-2014 01:37PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

If she was a young pregnant woman about to go to medical school would we all be as outraged?

We wouldn't even know about it in that case. The thing is that here, this kind of scummy publicity is part of the career - any media attention is good attention.

I'd agree with others who say this isn't a story about abortion, it's a story about somebody using an abortion as some kind of cheap badge of honour and dedication.

EDIT: that said, who knows if there ever was a pregnancy, or how much of any of this is true.

tfitzgerald · 20-04-2014 01:38PM

The woman needs help. Big Brother should cancell her place on the show and offer her some psychiatric help

Electric Sheep · 20-04-2014 01:39PM

jane82 wrote: »

Do you think its fine to just change your mind on having a baby halfway through term because you got a few weeks work.
Do you think a world where people say feck the contraception Ill just have an abortion is something to aim for?
Im pro choice myself but Im afraid of it being abused like this case shows.

Yes, I do. To try to define abortion as anything else but birth control is bullsh!t irish hypocrisy.

20-04-2014 01:40PM

I actually feel sorry for. She obviously has issues and needs help. This sort of article could well send her over the top.

Pretzill · 20-04-2014 01:48PM

The amount of vitriol being spouted on this thread is ugly. Her body, her right - why she chooses to do this publically in a tabloid way is also her right - paper never refuse ink.

Duck Soup · 20-04-2014 01:49PM

There are surprisingly few - if any - people saying that the woman in question shouldn't have the right to an abortion, but people are simply pointing out that it's a jaw-droppingly shallow, crass reason for doing so. Which funnily enough, they're entitled to do.

Go through the story. She says she's almost sure the father of the baby is a friend of hers who's a professional footballer. It might be one of the many men she slept with working as an escort, but she's pretty certain it's her mate, the footballer. And he's standing by her. So by her own admission, this isn't about money, per se.

Apparently her initial fame was as someone who got a boob job on the NHS and that had made the Big Brother producers interested in having her as a contestant. Then their interest cooled when they heard she was pregnant, so in the world's most simplistic stream of logic, Josie has reasoned "If they wanted me when I wasn't pregnant...and didn't want me when I was pregnant...then they'll want me on the show again if suddenly I'm not pregnant!"

She's free to seek, and probably get, an abortion. Other people are free to point out it's scumbag behaviour.

RDM_83 again · 20-04-2014 01:51PM

This is probably too serious a reply to this thread

but which ever side of the abortion debate your on it pretty clear that the UK law should be rewritten as (depending on your point of view) completely misapplied with cases like this being allowed to occur, or if it is applied properly it would place restrictions on a womans right to choose.

(1)Subject to the provisions of this section, a person shall not be guilty of an offence under the law relating to abortion when a pregnancy is terminated by a registered medical practitioner if two registered medical practitioners are of the opinion, formed in good faith—
[F1(a)that the pregnancy has not exceeded its twenty-fourth week and that the continuance of the pregnancy would involve risk, greater than if the pregnancy were terminated, of injury to the physical or mental health of the pregnant woman or any existing children of her family; or
(b)that the termination is necessary to prevent grave permanent injury to the physical or mental health of the pregnant woman; or
(c)that the continuance of the pregnancy would involve risk to the life of the pregnant woman, greater than if the pregnancy were terminated; or
(d)that there is a substantial risk that if the child were born it would suffer from such physical or mental abnormalities as to be seriously handicapped.]
(2)In determining whether the continuance of a pregnancy would involve such risk of injury to health as is mentioned in paragraph (a) [F2or (b)] of subsection (1) of this section, account may be taken of the pregnant woman’s actual or reasonably foreseeable environment.
(3)Except as provided by subsection (4) of this section, any treatment for the termination of pregnancy must be carried out in a hospital vested in [F3the Secretary of State for the purposes of his functions under the [F4National Health Service Act 2006]F4 or the National Health Service (Scotland) Act 1978 [F5or in a hospital vested in [F6a Primary Care Trust or]a National Health Service trust][F7or an NHS foundation trust]F7 or in a place approved for the purposes of this section by the Secretary of State]

Thats the text of the act if properly applied cases like this would probably not occur and if people think that she probably lied to the Doctors involved there was likely no need as undercover reporters (telegraph I think) showed a few years ago.
If your strongly pro-choice though and its applied as originally intended this act may be considered pretty pro-life.
In short British abortion law operates in a hypocritical manner.

Electric Sheep · 20-04-2014 01:52PM

PucaMama wrote: »

that type of woman wouldnt be bragging in the papers about it. the woman in the article is a disgusting person.

This reminds me of that first date rape case in Ireland back in the day. "If she was really raped she'd keep quiet about it" I was told.:rolleyes:

tfitzgerald · 20-04-2014 01:54PM

Pretzill wrote: »

The amount of vitriol being spouted on this thread is ugly. Her body, her right - why she chooses to do this publically in a tabloid way is also her right - paper never refuse ink.

It's also my right to my opinion. And that opinion is that she is a disgusting human being

Paddy Cow · 20-04-2014 02:20PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I actually feel sorry for. She obviously has issues and needs help. This sort of article could well send her over the top.

I seriously doubt that. She comes across as the type of person who not only thrives on negative attention but actively seeks it. It's hilarious that she goes on about trolls being mean to her, when she is clearly the one acting like a troll. She knows that people are p!ssed off that she got a boob job on the NHS and goes out of her way to rub people's faces in it.

Look at one of the pictures on the Daily Mail article. She's copying a Jodie Marsh look and using NHS tape to cover her boobs. If that isn't blatant trolling then I don't know what it.

PucaMama · 20-04-2014 02:47PM

Electric Sheep wrote: »

This reminds me of that first date rape case in Ireland back in the day. "If she was really raped she'd keep quiet about it" I was told.:rolleyes:

because they are the same :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Turtwig · 20-04-2014 02:47PM

Assuming this story is genuine:

Will the rest of the contestants be given miniature British flags?

Electric Sheep · 20-04-2014 02:50PM

PucaMama wrote: »

because they are the same :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Because of the attitude- abortion is ok as long as you are ashamed of it and keep quiet about it.

dgt · 20-04-2014 02:52PM

I see big bruvva is still gathering valued members of the community together in harmony....

jescart · 20-04-2014 02:53PM

The ironic part about all this is, by talking about and sharing this story - posting about it on forums etc, the girl's intentions are being fulfilled. Perhaps she's not as stupid as we think. I had never heard of this girl, or knew who she was before logging on to boards.ie today and now I do.

My attitude to stories and people like these are - ignore them. Just let it go. They don't matter in the grand scheme of things.

PucaMama · 20-04-2014 02:55PM

Electric Sheep wrote: »

Because of the attitude- abortion is ok as long as you are ashamed of it and keep quiet about it.

is it really something to be all happy about? if its so easy why are we being told about the "trauma" at having to travel to england to get one??

eviltwin · 20-04-2014 02:59PM

PucaMama wrote: »

is it really something to be all happy about? if its so easy why are we being told about the "trauma" at having to travel to england to get one??

talking and breaking down stigmas are one thing, oversharing is another.

PucaMama · 20-04-2014 03:18PM

eviltwin wrote: »

talking and breaking down stigmas are one thing, oversharing is another.

and this story is an example of over sharing.

Electric Sheep · 20-04-2014 03:19PM

PucaMama wrote: »

is it really something to be all happy about? if its so easy why are we being told about the "trauma" at having to travel to england to get one??

Do you think it is something to be ashamed of?

eviltwin · 20-04-2014 03:22PM

PucaMama wrote: »

and this story is an example of over sharing.

Exactly, why its news, why we need to know is beyond me. Its a private decision. She's not speaking out to draw attention to anything beyond her own personal gain, she's not doing it to help other people or address a hardship people experience. Her decision is hers to make but should be done away from the media glare.

Muise... · 20-04-2014 03:24PM

eviltwin wrote: »

Exactly, why its news, why we need to know is beyond me. Its a private decision. She's not speaking out to draw attention to anything beyond her own personal gain, she's not doing it to help other people or address a hardship people experience. Her decision is hers to make but should be done away from the media glare.

but the scandal! the outrage! the judgements! Bread and circuses!

Galwayguy35 · 20-04-2014 03:29PM

The surgeon who paid her £1,000 for the night must have been desperate for the ride.

And she took advantage of the fact she was pregnant to get free dental treatment, now it doesn't suit her to be expecting so she gets rid of it.

Stheno · 20-04-2014 03:30PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

The surgeon who paid her £1,000 for the night must have been desperate for the ride.

And she took advantage of the fact she was pregnant to get free dental treatment, now it doesn't suit her to be expecting so she gets rid of it.

And she wants the breast implants removed foc by the NHS!

RobertKK · 20-04-2014 03:34PM

The woman needs help.

She obviously has no talent apart from lying on her back and wants a pink range rover to get her around to visit her clients or to bring them to her big house when paying extra.

StinkyMunkey · 20-04-2014 03:36PM

I'm pro choice, but that's some sick ****.

Dunno what's more sickening, her getting an abortion purely to get on tv or the program (I presume) having a policy of not allowing pregnant women on the show!

designbydan · 20-04-2014 03:39PM

The awkward moment when you call somebody a disgusting terrible person who needs help. . . .

. . . But then your solution is to make her spawn a child she doesn't want. .

What she's doing is legal in her country and it's her own choice to make, just be happy there's not more of her being produced and move on.

oak5548 · 20-04-2014 03:42PM

dont really care.
Also, lol theliberal.ie :rolleyes:

Galwayguy35 · 20-04-2014 03:44PM

designbydan wrote: »

The awkward moment when you call somebody a disgusting terrible person who needs help. . . .

. . . But then your solution is to make her spawn a child she doesn't want. .

What she's doing is legal in her country and it's her own choice to make, just be happy there's not more of her being produced and move on.

She wanted it when it suited her to get free benefits.

Woman having an abortion to appear on big brother

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