Woman having an abortion to appear on big brother

Soft Falling Rain · 20-04-2014 11:46AM

mrsdewinter wrote: »

Calm down, people. It's a very late April Fool's Day joke...

The mirror reported it too, not that they're a bastion of reliability. Here's a quote that I found particularly lovely:

“An abortion will further my career. This time next year I won’t have a baby. Instead, I’ll be famous, driving a bright pink Range Rover and buying a big house. Nothing will get in my way.”

Frank Lee Midere · 20-04-2014 11:46AM

It's clear from responses here that people don't fully buy into the woman's right to choose because it's just her body ideology. If that were the case an abortion would be like a haircut.

The reason to support abortion, at least early term, is the alternatives are worse.

And that site is horribly written.

pauldla · 20-04-2014 11:49AM

I don't see this is as an abortion rights issue as such. Prohibition probably would not deter this woman, and 'My Back Street Abortion Hell' would also sell a few papers for her, if she was so inclined. The story, if reported correctly, would make me wonder at the type of society that could produce such a specimen of humanity.

I'd also wonder at those quick to decide that this woman is somehow or in some way typical of women who seek abortions. But that's another issue.

Pumpkinseeds · 20-04-2014 11:51AM

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

It's clear from responses here that people don't fully buy into the woman's right to choose because it's just her body ideology. If that were the case an abortion would be like a haircut.

The reason to support abortion, at least early term, is the alternatives are worse.

And that site is horribly written.

I disagree. For most women making a choice to terminate would be a very difficult personal and emotional decision, which most women would keep private. What most posters on this thread are saying is that what this woman is doing is basically a cheap scummy way of self publicising, not a criticism of abortion as such.

Muise... · 20-04-2014 11:54AM

pauldla wrote: »

I don't see this is as an abortion rights issue as such. Prohibition probably would not deter this woman, and 'My Back Street Abortion Hell' would also sell a few papers for her, if she was so inclined. The story, if reported correctly, would make me wonder at the type of society that could produce such a specimen of humanity.

I'd also wonder at those quick to decide that this woman is somehow or in some way typical of women who seek abortions. But that's another issue.

It's like Good AIDS and Bad AIDS.
Good abortions are when the woman is all raped and upset and sorrowful for the rest of her life. Bad abortions are when the woman is a bit knackery about it.

padd b1975 · 20-04-2014 12:02PM

Boombastic wrote: »

what's the problem? are we not all pro-choice??

No.

"We" are not all pro-choice.

Molester Stallone · 20-04-2014 12:07PM

padd b1975 wrote: »

No.

"We" are not all pro-choice.

Yes "we" are

Arthur Beesley · 20-04-2014 12:08PM

I don't really have a problem with this. Let's be honest - the world would be a worse place with her offspring in it. So she's actually doing us all a favour.

Arthur Beesley · 20-04-2014 12:09PM

Molester Stallone wrote: »

Yes "we" are

As long as you choose to go to England.

Carlos Orange · 20-04-2014 12:13PM

Maphisto wrote: »

That's a fair point but laws are made for the reasonable average joe's and jane's of this world and not for the unreasonable extremes of society.

Hard cases make bad laws. (I've a feeling I've misquoted that somewhere)

I would never murder someone and yet murder is still illegal.

WeHaveToGoBack · 20-04-2014 12:15PM

Whether its true or not, she won't be going on Big Brother now. Once you're leaked to the press, you're out. Rylan Clarke for example was meant to go in in 2008 but was told no at the last minute as the press got hold of it.

fran17 · 20-04-2014 12:17PM

sillyoulfool wrote: »

All countries "spawn creatures" who are dislikeable, the fact that the basic right of women to have a termination is fully recognised in the UK is unlikely to be cause of it. Unless you are suggesting that she should have been terminated herself during pregnancy.

yes fine its the law in England I accept that.but take a look at a picture of a 24 week old baby in the womb and you tell me its a "basic right".i'll put it to you its a basic wrong,both morally and ethically.but im not going to start a whole debate with the left on such a trivial story as this:rolleyes:

anncoates · 20-04-2014 12:19PM

Never being born or having her as a mother.

Tough call.

Maphisto · 20-04-2014 12:28PM

psinno wrote: »

I would never murder someone and yet murder is still illegal.

Hi psinno, I'm not entirely clear of the point you're making. Clearly we could all fill threads of offences that we have never committed and are unlikely to. That's relatively straight forward with a lot of laws but not so with others. Some laws need to have their circumstances detailed down to the nth degree and people will still find a way around them.

Electric Sheep · 20-04-2014 12:34PM

jane82 wrote: »

Its funny that during the abortion debate the staunch pro choicers completely rubbished the notion that some women would use it as birth control.
During the euthenasia debates people completely rubbished the idea that unscrupulous families would push people that needed alot of care into assisted suicide.
Sadly there are horrible people out there and these laws although great in a perfect world cant be implemented in my opinion because some people need them to protect them from horrible people.

Abortion IS birth control. It prevents the birth of an unwanted child. What else would you think it is?

I am pro choice, but anti bullsh!t.

jane82 · 20-04-2014 12:40PM

Electric Sheep wrote: »

Abortion IS birth control. It prevents the birth of an unwanted child. What else would you think it is?

I am pro choice, but anti bullsh!t.

Do you think its fine to just change your mind on having a baby halfway through term because you got a few weeks work.
Do you think a world where people say feck the contraception Ill just have an abortion is something to aim for?
Im pro choice myself but Im afraid of it being abused like this case shows.

demanufactured · 20-04-2014 12:41PM

Two barrels for her.

suicide_circus · 20-04-2014 12:44PM

Muise... wrote: »

I'm OK with that.

Grand, good for you.

sillyoulfool · 20-04-2014 12:48PM

jane82 wrote: »

Do you think its fine to just change your mind on having a baby halfway through term because you got a few weeks work.
Do you think a world where people say feck the contraception Ill just have an abortion is something to aim for?
Im pro choice myself but Im afraid of it being abused like this case shows.

I'm fine with a woman's right to choose, just because I abhor her motivations does not diminish her absolute right to choose.

candy-gal1 · 20-04-2014 12:51PM

Tbh and imho, If thats what she or anyone else wants to do then its her own choice, the only person that has to live with the aftermath of whatever she chooses is her so if she, or anyone for that matter, wants an abortion well no - one should be forced to not have one or have one

Having it in public though seems a bit much, whats the exact point?! As I dont think a lot of people are going to want to watch something like that unless theyve absolutly nothing to do in their lives, so cant see putting it in the public eye as helping her career but each to their own

Life is life, your own life is now, If your not hurting/badly interfering with anyone or their life etc etc then tis all your choice, just make sure its what you want

Muise... · 20-04-2014 12:56PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Grand, good for you.

It is good to be logical. And logical to be good.

c_man · 20-04-2014 01:07PM

She's a bit rough to be a glamour model?

biko · 20-04-2014 01:09PM

I don't think that site is a real news site.
Or if they wanted any kind of cred they shouldn't imitate Daily Mail.

whirlpool · 20-04-2014 01:14PM

If you are pro-choice, you have no right to even suggest denying this woman an abortion as that contradicts your beliefs entirely.

Supporting pro-choice completely supports the actions of this woman, and the actions of any other woman who may be of similar mentality.

Having a negative opinion of her mentality, however, doesn't contradict the beliefs of people who are pro-choice.

So, be disgusted by her all you want but if you're pro-choice then legally you fully support her actions.

And if you are anti-choice, then you're going to be against abortion no matter what.

crockholm · 20-04-2014 01:15PM

The time has come for some of my trademarked Solomonic knowledge-Firstly,the baby gets to live-that should keep the right happy,and secondly,the baby is adopted by homosexuals-that should keep the left happy.
As for the model/spunkbucket-A contract with RTE,and a regular slot as a panelist or guest in their many fine programmes.This will save her from dreaded obscurity.

Do I deserve a cuppa tae or wha?

Duck Soup · 20-04-2014 01:17PM

The story is being fairly extensively covered by the Mirror. I'm not sure it even justifies any coverage, as even if she doesn't get on BB, she gets acres of media space out of it, and if she doesn't go ahead with the abortion, then she can sell the tale of her 'change of heart', complete with touching pictures of the new-born.

She should have a change of heart just about the time the Big Brother producers tell her to GTF.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/josie-cunningham-big-brother-abortion-3435019

Clandestine · 20-04-2014 01:21PM

She feeds off attention, stop giving it to her. She sounds like she has histrionic personality disorder. Better to let he fade into obscurity, this is her 5 minutes and shes getting everything she wants.

Duck Soup · 20-04-2014 01:25PM

And a video of the Mirror interviewing her - because I have to admit the story seemed so brazenly scummy that it did occur to me that the Mirror had picked up the original article without doing due diligence. But no, it's kosher enough, with Josie explaining her 'reasoning' and everything.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/video-josie-cunningham-plans-abortion-3434350

MagicMarker · 20-04-2014 01:25PM

The woman says she's having an abortion for the sake of her career.

If she was a young pregnant woman about to go to medical school would we all be as outraged?

PucaMama · 20-04-2014 01:27PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

The woman says she's having an abortion for the sake of her career.

If she was a young pregnant woman about to go to medical school would we all be as outraged?

that type of woman wouldnt be bragging in the papers about it. the woman in the article is a disgusting person.

Woman having an abortion to appear on big brother

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