UK couple, aged 12 and 13, welcome their first child

PucaMama · 16-04-2014 09:00PM

Sulla Felix wrote: »

Oh? Plants then is it? Minerals maybe?

arent we clever :rolleyes:

Princess Peach · 16-04-2014 09:00PM

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

I think you're missing the point. Let's not derail the thread with a pro life versus pro choice argument, it never ends well.

Pro - choice would make it the pregnant girl's choice, not for her parents to take her for a termination.

josealdo · 16-04-2014 09:07PM

Princess Peach wrote: »

Pro - choice would make it the pregnant girl's choice, not for her parents to take her for a termination.

What about GOD's choice

, if the girl is biologically able to have a child , then whats wrong with that , cronologially age is a man made concept .

Catphish · 16-04-2014 09:09PM

Gatling wrote: »

Letting an 11 year old have sex that a ****ing clever idea

I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that they didn't have sex with each other in front of their parents. The girls father said they weren't allowed the use of the bedrooms either.

When I was their age I used to hang around with packs of boys playing manhunt, football etc. The only boy bits I had seen was my younger brothers if they were starkers heading for the bath. The children of this generation are a product of the world they live in. TV shows and music for example, targeted for their age group can be highly sexualised. Parents can do all they can to curb what their children watch and listen to, but it's naive to think they won't find a way around it. The same can be said for the company they keep. These days children are going around with high end phones with free reign of the internet access on them, and if they don't have one then their friends will.

While doing a course earlier in the year I met a woman who said her friends 5 year started 'twerking' in front of them, and when asked where she learned it from she said her friend.

Long gone are the times of children being innocent. Jesus, when I was their age I'd go purple with the embarrassment if Miley and Biddy kissed. When the Miley and Fidelma business kicked off I stopped going into the living room :eek:

Gatling · 16-04-2014 09:09PM

mauzo! wrote: »

Think they've had enough action!

BooooooM BooooooM

PucaMama · 16-04-2014 09:11PM

figs666 wrote: »

What about GOD's choice

, if the girl is biologically able to have a child , then whats wrong with that , cronologially age is a man made concept .

would you be happy for a 9 year old to have a baby just because its possible her "cycle" can start at that age

josealdo · 16-04-2014 09:14PM

If they are able to reproduce they why not let them reproduce , the way mother nature intended ,

all I'm reading is opinions about what's right and what's wrong ! what acceptable from society !

who care's ?

they had a healthy child and I am glad for them , they will have to grow up quick but that's life

josealdo · 16-04-2014 09:15PM

PucaMama wrote: »

would you be happy for a 9 year old to have a baby just because its possible her "cycle" can start at that age

if that's what mother nature intended , YES

PucaMama · 16-04-2014 09:16PM

figs666 wrote: »

If they are able to reproduce they why not let them reproduce , the way mother nature intended ,

all I'm reading is opinions about what's right and what's wrong ! what acceptable from society !

who care's ?

they had a healthy child and I am glad for them , they will have to grow up quick but that's life

it is not healthy for a girl as young as 9 to have a child. or 12. what is so wrong with waiting until our body has stopped developing and can safely carry a pregnancy?

shruikan2553 · 16-04-2014 09:17PM

figs666 wrote: »

If they are able to reproduce they why not let them reproduce , the way mother nature intended ,

all I'm reading is opinions about what's right and what's wrong ! what acceptable from society !

who care's ?

they had a healthy child and I am glad for them , they will have to grow up quick but that's life

We are able to kill each other and yet we dont, a baby can drink alcohol too. A person is not fully developed at that age and child bearing is tough on a body. Thanks to modern medicine and not leaving stuff up to mother nature the mother and child have greatly increased chances of survival.

EDIT: Came up with another, lets get rid of age of consent too!

ivytwine · 16-04-2014 09:23PM

figs666 wrote: »

, if the girl is biologically able to have a child , then whats wrong with that , cronologially age is a man made concept

I was thinking about this today.

On my 11th birthday I was expecting my letter to come from Hogwarts. I tried to get to Narnia through a wardrobe when I was ten.

You're a kid, you don't have the emotional capacity to deal with sex at this age. Perhaps we did when we were rutting in the caves but there's a whole mental and emotional side to sex that kids don't have the ability to deal with.

Can hardly believe that needs pointing out.

Lapin · 16-04-2014 09:24PM

In a couple of years when that child starts talking, her mum will ask her what she wants to be when she grows up.

Daughter's reply - Dunno mum, what do you want to be?

maguic24 · 16-04-2014 09:25PM

figs666 wrote: »

but at 2000BC years ago with the average death age of 30 , surely people must have been having babies as soon as they were able to ?

should humans been allowed to reproduce as so as they are capable of reproducing ?

we don't place age standards on animals , as soon as they are ready they are ready

comments please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was going to comment but then I got freaked out about the amount of exclamation marks you used.

Your like an army officer demanding our comments. I defy authority figures. :cool:

ivytwine · 16-04-2014 09:26PM

maguic24 wrote: »

I was going to comment but then I got freaked out about the amount of exclamation marks you used.

Your like an army officer demanding our comments. I defy authority figures. :cool:

"'Multiple exclamation marks,' he went on, shaking his head, 'are a sure sign of a diseased mind.' "

There's a Terry Pratchett quote for every occasion :cool:

grey_so_what · 16-04-2014 09:27PM

Lapin wrote: »

In a couple of years when that child starts talking, her mum will ask her what she wants to be when she grows up.

Daughter's reply - Dunno mum, what do you want to be?

It's like waking up in a Jeremy Kyle nightmare that turns out to be true.....:(

LeinsterDub · 16-04-2014 09:28PM

ivytwine wrote: »

I was thinking about this today.

On my 11th birthday I was expecting my letter to come from Hogwarts. I tried to get to Narnia through a wardrobe when I was ten.

You where an extremely naive 11th year old

ivytwine · 16-04-2014 09:29PM

LeinsterDub wrote: »

You where an extremely naive 11th year old

Yes. Yes, I was.

Better naive than pregnant tho :pac:

Gatling · 16-04-2014 09:30PM

figs666 wrote: »

If they are able to reproduce they why not let them reproduce , the way mother nature intended ,

all I'm reading is opinions about what's right and what's wrong ! what acceptable from society !

who care's ?

they had a healthy child and I am glad for them , they will have to grow up quick but that's life

Does that include incest ??

shopaholic01 · 16-04-2014 09:30PM

figs666 wrote: »

If they are able to reproduce they why not let them reproduce , the way mother nature intended ,

all I'm reading is opinions about what's right and what's wrong ! what acceptable from society !

who care's ?

they had a healthy child and I am glad for them , they will have to grow up quick but that's life

Should we also allow adults to have sex with minors once they have reached puberty?

maguic24 · 16-04-2014 09:31PM

figs666 wrote: »

If they are able to reproduce they why not let them reproduce , the way mother nature intended ,

all I'm reading is opinions about what's right and what's wrong ! what acceptable from society !

who care's ?

they had a healthy child and I am glad for them , they will have to grow up quick but that's life

That's like saying why do we wipe our ars*s with toilet paper after doing the business? Why not go out into the wilderness and do our business there and forget the toilet roll?

Or why don't women go round bleeding all over the place when they are on their period? (Like nature intended).

Why don't we let nature take it's course and let our immune systems fight of illnesses/diseases instead of using medicine/drugs.

I could go on.......

Sorry to be crude but it has to be said. #Teamtoiletroll

maguic24 · 16-04-2014 09:33PM

ivytwine wrote: »

Yes. Yes, I was.

Better naive than pregnant tho :pac:

It's okay Ivy I was waiting for the letter too.

I remember going to secondary school and pretending I was going to Hogwarts. I still love fantasy

. I secretly wish it was real and I could do magic or fly but it hasn't happened yet. Maybe tomorrow?

lukesmom · 16-04-2014 09:41PM

Madness. I have a 12 year old son. Can't even begin to imagine him having sex, not that I'd try to imagine it but you know what I mean.

Gatling · 16-04-2014 09:46PM

lukesmom wrote: »

Madness. I have a 12 year old son. Can't even begin to imagine him having sex, not that I'd try to imagine it but you know what I mean.

Were not in Kansas anymore Toto

Lapin · 16-04-2014 09:47PM

lukesmom wrote: »

Madness. I have a 12 year old son.

Luke ?

LizzieJones · 16-04-2014 09:50PM

Sulla Felix wrote: »

Oh? Plants then is it? Minerals maybe?

Mammals actually.

16-04-2014 09:51PM

Having a period doesn't mean the body can cope with pregnancy.

e.g.
Pelvic bones do not reach their maximum size until about the age of 18; therefore, the pelvis of the teenage mother may not have grown enough to allow vaginal delivery of a normal-size baby. For this reason, the incidence of cesarean section is higher in teenage mothers -- a baby that can be delivered vaginally when the mother is 20 is often too large to have been delivered vaginally when she was 14 years old.

BorneTobyWilde · 16-04-2014 09:53PM

They will get mega deals on family holidays .Kids go free

LizzieJones · 16-04-2014 09:55PM

Lapin wrote: »

Luke ?

I bet Luke's father gets great pleasure telling Luke that he is his father.

ivytwine · 16-04-2014 09:57PM

maguic24 wrote: »

It's okay Ivy I was waiting for the letter too. I remember going to secondary school and pretending I was going to Hogwarts. I still love fantasy . I secretly wish it was real and I could do magic or fly but it hasn't happened yet. Maybe tomorrow?

We can wish really hard and maybe we won't wake up to our Muggle lives :pac:

My school was as far away from Hogwarts as you could get!

Seriously though, I remember a 'pure innocent young wan' being the biggest insult you could throw around in my early teens, but I'm glad I managed to keep on the straight and narrow until around 16 or so anyway. I've great memories of sneaking into pubs and falling asleep in Croke Park due to my first hangover, but the memories I have of my early teens are wonderful.

The only boys we worried about were the ones on the silver screen or that cute guy who waited for the bus after school in the All Blacks jacket that I used to stalk... I mean keep an enquiring eye on. Yeah, being a young teen sucked in a lot of ways but the main memory I have is laughter. Sometimes you could come back from lunch without a bite of your sandwich eaten and your sides aching from all the craic.

I will never get those days back again. We've all scattered to the four winds, and one of my group was killed in a crash a few years back, but those memories are very precious to me. Which is why when I read this story I didn't feel anything but sadness. I think you should have a few years to just be a kid, with all that entails, but these two children won't ever have that. I think it's heartbreaking

Sulla Felix · 16-04-2014 10:24PM

LizzieJones wrote: »

Mammals actually.

Which are fcuking animals, last I checked.

UK couple, aged 12 and 13, welcome their first child

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