WTF - D.Cameron on Ryanair.

Lapin · 13-04-2014 06:19PM

MadYaker wrote: »

I don't see what the big deal is here, he isn't a millionaire and doesn't have his own jet (as far as I know) Ryanair are the cheapest and often are the most convenient if you aren't flying to a big city. It wasn't just him and his wife, he must have had security with him too.

He is. And his wife is worth more.

But I don't see it as a big deal either. Blair was flying Ryanair 15 years ago.

It does save money and its good PR. In terms of security, there is no difference between flying with a low cost airline or a flag carrier like BA, maybe a little less privacy.

And British Prime Ministers and other senior figures have been flying BA and other legacy carriers for decades without anyone batting an eyelid.

SaveOurLyric · 13-04-2014 06:23PM

MadYaker wrote: »

he isn't a millionaire.

He is.

NWPat · 13-04-2014 06:34PM

SaveOurLyric wrote: »

He is.

No he isn't.......he's a multi millionaire, has never had a job(outside politics), went to Eaton, Oxford etc. Anyone taken in by this "man of the people" stuff is a prize mug.

Lapin · 13-04-2014 06:41PM

NWPat wrote: »

No he isn't.......he's a multi millionaire, has never had a job(outside politics), went to Eaton, Oxford etc. Anyone taken in by this "man of the people" stuff is a prize mug.

Comments like this only highlight the ignorance that still prevails among those who choose to wallow in their own stupidity.

Zonda999 · 13-04-2014 06:45PM

Diego Simeone wrote: »

Galling because it's incorrect?

Barack Obama's yearly pay is $400,000, or €288,000.

Angela Merkel's yearly pay is €250,000.

Jean-Claude Juncker's yearly pay is €210,000.

Enda Kenny's yearly pay is €200,000.

G'way with your "facts" will you please

We much prefer incorrect populist sweeping generalisations, thanks.

NWPat · 13-04-2014 06:51PM

Lapin wrote: »

Comments like this only highlight the ignorance that still prevails among those who choose to wallow in their own stupidity.

First prize!

BBJBIG · 13-04-2014 06:53PM

If dat were an Oirish politishun, he'd be on a 5-Star Jet all paid fur at de TaxPayers expense. Sense of entitlement, don't ya know ... :eek:

kneemos · 13-04-2014 07:03PM

Lapin wrote: »

Comments like this only highlight the ignorance that still prevails among those who choose to wallow in their own stupidity.

If you're going to call people stupid at least back it up with something...if you have anything.

darkpagandeath · 13-04-2014 07:04PM

Zonda999 wrote: »

G'way with your "facts" will you please

We much prefer incorrect populist sweeping generalisations, thanks.

Well even the revised figures speak for themselves. Ireland is no way near the size of France or Germany and not as complex to run. Yet our leader gets 3rd highest wage.

Amirani · 13-04-2014 07:10PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Well even the revised figures speak for themselves. Ireland is no way near the size of France or Germany and not as complex to run. Yet our leader gets 3rd highest wage.

France and Germany have much more decentralised Governments. I don't know see why they'd be more complex to run?

darkpagandeath · 13-04-2014 07:15PM

Diego Simeone wrote: »

France and Germany have much more decentralised Governments. I don't know see why they'd be more complex to run?

More state visits, diplomacy and part of the G8 and all that. I think German/French leaders do a tad more and are more bang for buck than our lot. They do a lot more in the EU as well.

c_man · 13-04-2014 07:39PM

If it'd had been some South American President, I'd fully expect that the inevitable "Look at this average politician doing normal things!!!!?!" imgr gallery would be flying it.

Stavros Murphy · 13-04-2014 08:28PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Well even the revised figures speak for themselves. Ireland is no way near the size of France or Germany and not as complex to run. Yet our leader gets 3rd highest wage.

Run some "€'s per person they have to govern" figures and it gets even more farcical. Bung in Pension entitlements and it is into Lotto territory for the size of the job required. Anyway, I just want to know did he have to take off his shoes and belt going through security and did they confiscate his bottle of Ballygowan. Otherwise, it's a sham, a sham I tells ya.

J_E · 13-04-2014 08:30PM

errlloyd wrote: »

I'm pretty impressed. I don't care if it's just a gimmick or a stunt, it at least demonstrates some awareness.

I'm not sure David Cameron is a good yardstick to measure awareness and relation to the public...

Lapin · 13-04-2014 09:37PM

kneemos wrote: »

If you're going to call people stupid at least back it up with something...if you have anything.

I have plenty. I'm surprised people think it really needs qualification.

For a start the suggestion that he's not a millionaire because he's a multi-millionaire is just plain ridiculous.

Secondly, the claim that Cameron had never had a job outside of politics is factually incorrect.

Also, there was in the post, an inherint suggestion that those who attended Eton and Oxford are somehow out of touch with reality. This is simply not the case.

Finally, unlike previous premiers, David Cameron has never attempted to hide his background in an attempt to gain favour with working class voters. He has never needed to. He is however, more a 'man of the people' than many of his predecesors claim to be.

I stand by my comment above.

Fratton Fred · 13-04-2014 09:59PM

I must admit, I'd normally have an inbuilt dislike for Tory politicians, but DC does seem to be ok. He is a lot more in touch with reality than his Labour predecessors, both of whom also went to posh schools.

Donkey Oaty · 13-04-2014 10:01PM

Lapin wrote: »

He is however, more a 'man of the people' than many of his predecesors claim to be.

Does this include going to the same school as Prince Andrew and Prince Edward, being a member of the Bullingdon Club (which recently had a ritual of burning a £50 note in front of a tramp) or being a descendant of William IV?

You can argue that he has the ordinary people's interests at heart, but he's no horny-handed son of toil by any stretch of the imagination.

Lapin · 13-04-2014 10:16PM

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

Does this include going to the same school as Prince Andrew and Prince Edward,.

I would have thought having a good education is considered an advantage for a PM.

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

being a member of the Bullingdon Club (which recently had a ritual of burning a £50 note in front of a tramp).

Was Cameron present when this happened? Did he condone it?

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

or being a descendant of William IV?.

Along with thousands of others. Not that it means anything anyway, it being an illegitimate line.

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

You can argue that he has the ordinary people's interests at heart, but he's no horny-handed son of toil by any stretch of the imagination.

I never claimed he was.

Donkey Oaty · 13-04-2014 10:24PM

Lapin wrote: »

Was Cameron present when this happened? Did he condone it?

Definitely not! It was a recent development, as far as I know.

Maybe we need to define what a "man of the people" is?

No Pants · 13-04-2014 10:25PM

MadYaker wrote: »

he isn't a millionaire

I think you'll find he is.

NWPat · 14-04-2014 09:28AM

Lapin wrote: »

I have plenty. I'm surprised people think it really needs qualification.

For a start the suggestion that he's not a millionaire because he's a multi-millionaire is just plain ridiculous.

Secondly, the claim that Cameron had never had a job outside of politics is factually incorrect.

Also, there was in the post, an inherint suggestion that those who attended Eton and Oxford are somehow out of touch with reality. This is simply not the case.

Finally, unlike previous premiers, David Cameron has never attempted to hide his background in an attempt to gain favour with working class voters. He has never needed to. He is however, more a 'man of the people' than many of his predecesors claim to be.

I stand by my comment above.

And you called me stupid. You are clearly completely detached from reality much like DC himself.

Your whole post is ridiculous, you can stand by it as long as you like. MUG.

Fratton Fred · 14-04-2014 09:58AM

NWPat wrote: »

And you called me stupid. You are clearly completely detached from reality much like DC himself.

Your whole post is ridiculous, you can stand by it as long as you like. MUG.

You generally get more credibility if you back up points you make with examples or facts, rather than just throwing insults at people.

Davarus Walrus · 14-04-2014 10:09AM

The only people in Britain who should be allowed become PM are former street urchins from Hull, Grimsby or Huddersfield. The son or daughter of a former miner and textile factory worker, they grew up playing footie on the street, listening to the music of The Smiths, and eating pies on the terrace as they watched their local club lose to a shower of long-haired Cockney geezers. Having flirted with communism whilst attending the local polytechnic, they now identify themselves as social democrats. They have never lost their accent, drink cask ale because they love the taste of it, and have a slightly grizzly nature that appeals to working class workers.

Donkey Oaty · 14-04-2014 10:31AM

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

listening to the music of The Smiths

They have never lost their accent

drink cask ale because they love the taste of it

DC hasn't lost his accent, is a fan of The Smiths and his favourite drink is the cask ale "Doom Bar", apparently - so he scores surprisingly highly in your PM test. Not sure about the street-urchin back story though - he might need to work on that one.

Dyr · 14-04-2014 10:40AM

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

DC hasn't lost his accent, is a fan of The Smiths and his favourite drink is the cask ale "Doom Bar", apparently - so he scores surprisingly highly in your PM test. Not sure about the street-urchin back story though - he might need to work on that one.

Weird... I had a few pints of doom bar a few years back in the UK, not bad at all

NWPat · 14-04-2014 10:42AM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

You generally get more credibility if you back up points you make with examples or facts, rather than just throwing insults at people.

I agree, but its funny how you thanked a post a page back that did exactly what you accuse me of. Backing up your Tory wannabe chum removes all credibility from your post.

keeponhurling · 14-04-2014 11:20AM

The entire cost of the return flights for Cameron, his family and probably his security would come to less thsn the cost of John O'Donoghue's limosine to change terminals within Heathrow.

Lapin · 14-04-2014 11:52AM

NWPat wrote: »

And you called me stupid. You are clearly completely detached from reality much like DC himself.

Your whole post is ridiculous, you can stand by it as long as you like. MUG.

Can you tell me what evidence you find in my post to make the claim that I'm detached with reality, and what was ridiculous about it?

NWPat wrote: »

I agree, but its funny how you thanked a post a page back that did exactly what you accuse me of. Backing up your Tory wannabe chum removes all credibility from your post.

I'm not a Tory wannabe. I'm a tory 'used to be'. I left the party years ago.

This was your initial post. Can you really not see number of flaws in it? I'm not setting out to call anyone stupid, but when people post stuff like this they openly leave themselves available for ridicule.

Don't blame the messenger.

NWPat wrote: »

No he isn't.......he's a multi millionaire, has never had a job(outside politics), went to Eaton, Oxford etc. Anyone taken in by this "man of the people" stuff is a prize mug.

osarusan · 14-04-2014 12:16PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I must admit, I'd normally have an inbuilt dislike for Tory politicians, but DC does seem to be ok. He is a lot more in touch with reality than his Labour predecessors, both of whom also went to posh schools.

He manages to seem credible while getting some horifically cruel immigration laws passed.

NWPat · 14-04-2014 02:02PM

Lapin wrote: »

Can you tell me what evidence you find in my post to make the claim that I'm detached with reality, and what was ridiculous about it?

I'm not a Tory wannabe. I'm a tory 'used to be'. I left the party years ago.

This was your initial post. Can you really not see number of flaws in it? I'm not setting out to call anyone stupid, but when people post stuff like this they openly leave themselves available for ridicule.

Don't blame the messenger.

There are no flaws in it. It is factually correct. If you have any evidence to refute any of it, present it. I believe you will not because you can not. Just because someone disagrees with you does make them stupid, I would contend that the opposite would be true. Admiting to being a former Tory tells me all I need to know and ridicule would be the very least you deserve. You think your opinion to be more important than anyone elses and thats all you present in your posts. The problem with opinions is that they are just like ar*eholes, everyone has one.