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WTF - D.Cameron on Ryanair.

  • 13-04-2014 2:46pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭


    How does that work then ??

    There'd have to be a full security detail.
    Would there even be any general public on board.
    Would he get charged for excess baggage.


    By Darren McCaffrey, Sky News Political Reporter
    With schools having broken up and Parliament in recess ahead of Easter, David Cameron has jetted off on holiday to Lanzarote.

    The Prime Minister flew to the island with his wife Samantha yesterday on budget airline Ryanair, where he will spend six nights at a refurbished resort hotel.

    The break in the Spanish island will provide welcome relief after a difficult week that saw the resignation of Culture Secretary Maria Miller over her expenses.

    David Cameron, who tends to take at least one sunny European holiday a year, has in the past used Easyjet as well as Ryanair.

    At a time of continued austerity, all party leaders, conscious of the impact of cuts, have made a point of using low cost airlines.

    The Prime Minister has in the past spoken of the benefits of 'chillaxing' having also confessed to using computer games and running to relax.

    The Sunday Times reports that this Easter break will be spent at a yoga retreat, which charges £1,000 a week for two and combines the traditional style of the island with Moroccan and Indonesian influences.

    Lanzarote has a population of 130,000 and is a key market for British tourism with over half a million having visited the island last year according to the Canary Islands Statistics Institute.

    The Prime Minister faces a full in-tray when he returns however, with the State Opening of Parliament and local and European elections scheduled for May.


    I guess he is home with the downies after all.


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    Yeah, and they cleared the island for him too. What's the big deal? He's a bloke, not a footballer, ffs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    I wonder what computer games he plays! That you swine, and here's one for England as well!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,294 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    I don't see what the big deal is here, he isn't a millionaire and doesn't have his own jet (as far as I know) Ryanair are the cheapest and often are the most convenient if you aren't flying to a big city. It wasn't just him and his wife, he must have had security with him too.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Hasn't he already flown a number of times with Ryanair since becoming PM?
    Value for money for the UK taxpayer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    His advisors will have told him to use Ryanair no doubt
    Getting down with the people innit.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    kneemos wrote: »
    His advisors will have told him to use Ryanair no doubt
    Getting down with the people innit.

    They probably bought a plane and painted it Ryanair colours to shut all the whingers up. He touches down in lanzarotten, has his piccie taken them fecks off to Monaco on a carriage pulled by swans when no-ones looking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,619 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    I'm pretty impressed. I don't care if it's just a gimmick or a stunt, it at least demonstrates some awareness.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    kneemos wrote: »
    His advisors will have told him to use Ryanair no doubt
    Getting down with the people innit.
    errlloyd wrote: »
    I'm pretty impressed. I don't care if it's just a gimmick or a stunt, it at least demonstrates some awareness.

    He's hip.
    When I grow up I want to be David Cameron.

    DC 2 kool 4 skool.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    errlloyd wrote: »
    I'm pretty impressed. I don't care if it's just a gimmick or a stunt, it at least demonstrates some awareness.

    Here's the news - all over Europe, Politicians are pretty down to earth. It's only here, In good ol Ireland that they think Mercs and the Shelbourne are roughing it. And that's just the local TDs.


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  • Administrators Posts: 54,424 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Hasn't he already flown a number of times with Ryanair since becoming PM?
    Value for money for the UK taxpayer
    I'm pretty sure he pays for his own holidays out of his own money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    awec wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure he pays for his own holidays out of his own money.

    And Im pretty sure as Prime Minister, he can avail of a government aircraft even for holidays for reasons of security among others.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    Its not about the money though - its just bizarre, one step away from the queen hailing a taxi outside the o2.

    I wonder does he grab his hand baggage and rush for the door when they land.

    What if you were sat in the seats near the toilets. Thats an update on your facebook - #cmrn tking sht 5 feet from me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    our own b*****d politicians have used our government jet for piss ups, ffs.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    maryishere wrote: »
    our own b*****d politicians have used our government jet for piss ups, ffs.

    Have they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    awec wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure he pays for his own holidays out of his own money.
    For himself and his family. The taxpayer would pick up the bill for his security, I would expect.

    MrP


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    Have they?

    not just that part in the papers some years ago, but even for a minister to go to Derry while his government Audi A6 car drove there to collect him.
    Our ministers would not lower themselves to travel with ordinary people.

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/republic-of-ireland/irish-minister-noel-dempsey-i-was-wrong-to-take-state-jet-to-derry-28552045.html


    Errr...why does little old leprechaun man need to spend €759,000 on using the government jet going to and from England last week, a distance of an hours flight, when the prime minister of the UK and a G7 leader Cameron and his family fly by Ryanair - an Irish airline - to Lanzarote?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,676 ✭✭✭AllGunsBlazing


    Dave flies Ryan Air because he's just another regular, everyday person trying to enjoy life while saving a bit of money where he can in these more austere times. Just like the rest of us.

    Or at least thats how it was explained to him when his PR man handed him the tickets.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    maryishere wrote: »
    why does little old leprechaun man need to spend €759,000 on using the government jet going to and from England last week, a distance of an hours flight, when the prime minister of the UK and a G7 leader Cameron and his family fly by Ryanair - an Irish airline - to Lanzarote?

    There's a different between diplomatic trips and holidays.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Yeah I'm not one to bash the government .... But it is a bit galling when you find out Our Taoiseach gets paid more than the American president. And all his European counterparts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭relaxed


    Its not about the money though - its just bizarre, one step away from the queen hailing a taxi outside the o2.


    .

    It's not bizarre, Blair used do it too. There's no real security issue as nobody will have a gun in an airport.

    The queen may not get a taxi from the O2 but late Middleton goes to a asda for her shopping.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    relaxed wrote: »
    It's not bizarre, Blair used do it too. There's no real security issue as nobody will have a gun in an airport.

    The queen may not get a taxi from the O2 but late Middleton goes to a asda for her shopping.

    I wonder does she bring a stray trolley back if she sees a pound in the slot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,562 ✭✭✭kub


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Hasn't he already flown a number of times with Ryanair since becoming PM?
    Value for money for the UK taxpayer

    Pity some of the shower we elect don't do similar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Did a lot of work last year in Paris and Gordon Brown was frequently on the flight. He'd get driven to the steps and sat in 1a with a security presence in 2a,c and 1d. The abuse he'd get for making people stand in the cold waiting to board was hilarious. Water off a ducks back though he'd sit there with the head down reading notes.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Yeah I'm not one to bash the government .... But it is a bit galling when you find out Our Taoiseach gets paid more than the American president. And all his European counterparts.

    Galling because it's incorrect?

    Barack Obama's yearly pay is $400,000, or €288,000.

    Angela Merkel's yearly pay is €250,000.

    Jean-Claude Juncker's yearly pay is €210,000.

    Enda Kenny's yearly pay is €200,000.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Think you maybe missing out other salaries they could still be claiming and pensions from different pots. Yes on paper what you say is correct. But maybe not in reality when all the other amounts are added together.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Think you maybe missing out other salaries they could still be claiming and pensions from different pots. Yes on paper what you say is correct. But maybe not in reality when all the other amounts are added together.

    All the other leaders claim expenses and get pensions too. Your claim was correct afaik during the later Ahern/early Cowen years. It's not anymore though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭policarp


    He's trying to build up his air miles.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭porsche959


    MadYaker wrote: »
    I don't see what the big deal is here, he isn't a millionaire

    Er, he is.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    MadYaker wrote: »
    I don't see what the big deal is here, he isn't a millionaire and doesn't have his own jet (as far as I know) Ryanair are the cheapest and often are the most convenient if you aren't flying to a big city. It wasn't just him and his wife, he must have had security with him too.

    He is. And his wife is worth more.

    But I don't see it as a big deal either. Blair was flying Ryanair 15 years ago.

    It does save money and its good PR. In terms of security, there is no difference between flying with a low cost airline or a flag carrier like BA, maybe a little less privacy.

    And British Prime Ministers and other senior figures have been flying BA and other legacy carriers for decades without anyone batting an eyelid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭SaveOurLyric


    MadYaker wrote: »
    he isn't a millionaire.
    He is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 240 ✭✭NWPat


    He is.

    No he isn't.......he's a multi millionaire, has never had a job(outside politics), went to Eaton, Oxford etc. Anyone taken in by this "man of the people" stuff is a prize mug.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    NWPat wrote: »
    No he isn't.......he's a multi millionaire, has never had a job(outside politics), went to Eaton, Oxford etc. Anyone taken in by this "man of the people" stuff is a prize mug.

    Comments like this only highlight the ignorance that still prevails among those who choose to wallow in their own stupidity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Zonda999


    Galling because it's incorrect?

    Barack Obama's yearly pay is $400,000, or €288,000.

    Angela Merkel's yearly pay is €250,000.

    Jean-Claude Juncker's yearly pay is €210,000.

    Enda Kenny's yearly pay is €200,000.
    G'way with your "facts" will you please

    We much prefer incorrect populist sweeping generalisations, thanks.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 240 ✭✭NWPat


    Lapin wrote: »
    Comments like this only highlight the ignorance that still prevails among those who choose to wallow in their own stupidity.

    First prize!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 277 ✭✭BBJBIG


    If dat were an Oirish politishun, he'd be on a 5-Star Jet all paid fur at de TaxPayers expense. Sense of entitlement, don't ya know ... :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Lapin wrote: »
    Comments like this only highlight the ignorance that still prevails among those who choose to wallow in their own stupidity.

    If you're going to call people stupid at least back it up with something...if you have anything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Zonda999 wrote: »
    G'way with your "facts" will you please

    We much prefer incorrect populist sweeping generalisations, thanks.

    Well even the revised figures speak for themselves. Ireland is no way near the size of France or Germany and not as complex to run. Yet our leader gets 3rd highest wage.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Well even the revised figures speak for themselves. Ireland is no way near the size of France or Germany and not as complex to run. Yet our leader gets 3rd highest wage.

    France and Germany have much more decentralised Governments. I don't know see why they'd be more complex to run?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    France and Germany have much more decentralised Governments. I don't know see why they'd be more complex to run?

    More state visits, diplomacy and part of the G8 and all that. I think German/French leaders do a tad more and are more bang for buck than our lot. They do a lot more in the EU as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    If it'd had been some South American President, I'd fully expect that the inevitable "Look at this average politician doing normal things!!!!?!" imgr gallery would be flying it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    Well even the revised figures speak for themselves. Ireland is no way near the size of France or Germany and not as complex to run. Yet our leader gets 3rd highest wage.

    Run some "€'s per person they have to govern" figures and it gets even more farcical. Bung in Pension entitlements and it is into Lotto territory for the size of the job required. Anyway, I just want to know did he have to take off his shoes and belt going through security and did they confiscate his bottle of Ballygowan. Otherwise, it's a sham, a sham I tells ya.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    errlloyd wrote: »
    I'm pretty impressed. I don't care if it's just a gimmick or a stunt, it at least demonstrates some awareness.

    I'm not sure David Cameron is a good yardstick to measure awareness and relation to the public...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    kneemos wrote: »
    If you're going to call people stupid at least back it up with something...if you have anything.

    I have plenty. I'm surprised people think it really needs qualification.

    For a start the suggestion that he's not a millionaire because he's a multi-millionaire is just plain ridiculous.

    Secondly, the claim that Cameron had never had a job outside of politics is factually incorrect.

    Also, there was in the post, an inherint suggestion that those who attended Eton and Oxford are somehow out of touch with reality. This is simply not the case.

    Finally, unlike previous premiers, David Cameron has never attempted to hide his background in an attempt to gain favour with working class voters. He has never needed to. He is however, more a 'man of the people' than many of his predecesors claim to be.

    I stand by my comment above.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    I must admit, I'd normally have an inbuilt dislike for Tory politicians, but DC does seem to be ok. He is a lot more in touch with reality than his Labour predecessors, both of whom also went to posh schools.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Lapin wrote: »
    He is however, more a 'man of the people' than many of his predecesors claim to be.

    Does this include going to the same school as Prince Andrew and Prince Edward, being a member of the Bullingdon Club (which recently had a ritual of burning a £50 note in front of a tramp) or being a descendant of William IV?

    You can argue that he has the ordinary people's interests at heart, but he's no horny-handed son of toil by any stretch of the imagination.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Does this include going to the same school as Prince Andrew and Prince Edward,.

    I would have thought having a good education is considered an advantage for a PM.
    being a member of the Bullingdon Club (which recently had a ritual of burning a £50 note in front of a tramp).
    Was Cameron present when this happened? Did he condone it?
    or being a descendant of William IV?.

    Along with thousands of others. Not that it means anything anyway, it being an illegitimate line.
    You can argue that he has the ordinary people's interests at heart, but he's no horny-handed son of toil by any stretch of the imagination.

    I never claimed he was.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Lapin wrote: »
    Was Cameron present when this happened? Did he condone it?

    Definitely not! It was a recent development, as far as I know.

    Maybe we need to define what a "man of the people" is?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭No Pants


    MadYaker wrote: »
    he isn't a millionaire
    I think you'll find he is.


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