Cosmetic Surgery - The Human Barbie

Jonny Blaze · 11-04-2014 06:48PM #1

This is the 'human barbie' - Valeria Lukyanova (Don't google if you are squeamish about this!)

http://www.independent.ie/woman/beauty/inside-the-weird-world-of-the-human-barbie-30177907.html

Came across stories about her before and it always makes me pretty uncomfortable.

I am pretty much totally against elective cosmetic surgery and feel it tends in a large majority of cases to actually make people look much much worse.

I also think that the decision to chose to have cosmetic surgery betrays major deficiencies in a persons personality.

While I can't deny that there is anecdotal evidence from people who report increased self confidence as a result of the surgery so fair enough there I guess.

I reckon if the person had the psychological tools to deal with reality in a normal way that there wouldn't be any need for the surgery.

Anyway, enough spiel!

How much is too much and how far is too far with cosmetic surgery?

vicwatson · 11-04-2014 06:48PM

No, just no

bodice ripper · 11-04-2014 06:50PM

I blame the parents.

Guy:Incognito · 11-04-2014 06:56PM

bodice ripper wrote: »

I blame the parents.

Mattel?

Galwayguy35 · 11-04-2014 06:58PM

She is like something from Madame Tussuads wax museum.

pajor · 11-04-2014 06:59PM

Read before that she met 'Ken'. Some Russian (I think) guy who got all the surgery etc to make himself look like a Ken doll..

He didn't like here because she looked too fake.

:pac:

shopaholic01 · 11-04-2014 07:00PM

I can understand someone fixing an unattractive feature, but this girl probably has body dysmorphic disorder.

The surgeons really should be ashamed, she looks like a freak.

Jonny Blaze · 11-04-2014 07:02PM

Apparently a lot of it is down to make up but i dunno if i believe that.

Sort of like Nicole Kidman who "never had any work done"

Frosty McSnowballs · 11-04-2014 07:04PM

I'd play with her.

Retrovertigo · 11-04-2014 07:04PM

I would.

My name is URL · 11-04-2014 07:07PM

Jonny Blaze wrote: »

Apparently a lot of it is down to make up but i dunno if i believe that.

Well here's a picture of her looking somewhat normal, with less makeup

http://m24digital.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/b6.jpg

kowloon · 11-04-2014 07:07PM

What have they done to her eyes? They look like they're drawn on to her eyelids.

shopaholic01 · 11-04-2014 07:10PM

kowloon wrote: »

What have they done to her eyes? They look like they're drawn on to her eyelids.

Combination of oversized contacts and bizarre make-up I think.

Jonny Blaze · 11-04-2014 07:12PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Well here's a picture of her looking somewhat normal, with less makeup

http://m24digital.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/b6.jpg

Yeah its totally possible alright, I have big respect for the black magic that is make up!

Even her body looks kind of freakishly proportioned though and her nose looks like it must have been filed away or something.

MonstaMash · 11-04-2014 07:12PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Well here's a picture of her looking somewhat normal, with less makeup

http://m24digital.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/b6.jpg

She'a a pretty looking lady in that shot.

howamidifferent · 11-04-2014 07:12PM

Retrovertigo wrote: »

I would.

You'd have to go through my ass first. ðŸ˜

Frosty McSnowballs · 11-04-2014 07:13PM

I wonder if she has been "Polyfillered" too......for accuracy like.

shopaholic01 · 11-04-2014 07:14PM

Jonny Blaze wrote: »

Yeah its totally possible alright, I have big respect for the black magic that is make up!

Even her body looks kind of freakishly proportioned though and her nose looks like it must have been filed away or something.

There is no way make-up changed her nose or face shape to that extent. It's a pity, she's beautiful in that before photo.

Remmy · 11-04-2014 07:16PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Well here's a picture of her looking somewhat normal, with less makeup

http://m24digital.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/b6.jpg

She looks great there imo minus the weird eyebrows

Penny Tration · 11-04-2014 07:20PM

Lol op, personality deficiency to have elective surgery?

You try walking around with H cup breasts on a size 14, 5'1 frame. I have scars on my shoulders from bra straps trying to support my chest, and back pain most days. I do not want a reduction, but I did for years, and it's not down to a personality deficiency, it's down to the fact that I hated my breasts.

When I'm about 40, I fully plan to have an uplift when they go south.

Wanting one or two procedures does not point to a personality issue. Constant surgery points towards a mental health issue, not a personality issue.

Jonny Blaze · 11-04-2014 07:25PM

shopaholic01 wrote: »

I can understand someone fixing an unattractive feature, but this girl probably has body dysmorphic disorder.

The surgeons really should be ashamed, she looks like a freak.

I wouldn't even agree with the whole fixing an unattractive feature now to be honest. I mean if a person is a usual or average looking then they should be refused surgery in my opinion.

The idea that an unattractive feature needs to be fixed is just a vanity / inflated body image issue and shouldn't be encouraged or condoned.

If you're willing to go under the knife to alter your looks, shouldn't you be encouraged to spend the money on a shrink to alter your mindset first?

What's the end game anyway? You can't achieve perfection.

11-04-2014 07:27PM

I think people who want surgery and can pay for it are none of your business tbh
It should be between them and a surgeon if they get it done
A psych consult beforehand? Maybe yeah. World is full of people doing things we don't like that ultimately don't harm anyone

11-04-2014 07:27PM

green_screen wrote: »

You try walking around with H cup breasts on a size 14, 5'1 frame.

You must be worn out managing those! I can't even carry a heavy handbag.

11-04-2014 07:27PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Well here's a picture of her looking somewhat normal, with less makeup

http://m24digital.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/b6.jpg

Wow, she is proper beautiful.

green_screen wrote: »

Lol op, personality deficiency to have elective surgery?

You try walking around with H cup breasts on a size 14, 5'1 frame. I have scars on my shoulders from bra straps trying to support my chest, and back pain most days. I do not want a reduction, but I did for years, and it's not down to a personality deficiency, it's down to the fact that I hated my breasts.

When I'm about 40, I fully plan to have an uplift when they go south.

Wanting one or two procedures does not point to a personality issue. Constant surgery points towards a mental health issue, not a personality issue.

Breast reduction for back pain is not considered cosmetic surgery.

Jonny Blaze · 11-04-2014 07:27PM

green_screen wrote: »

Lol op, personality deficiency to have elective surgery?

You try walking around with H cup breasts on a size 14, 5'1 frame. I have scars on my shoulders from bra straps trying to support my chest, and back pain most days. I do not want a reduction, but I did for years, and it's not down to a personality deficiency, it's down to the fact that I hated my breasts.

When I'm about 40, I fully plan to have an uplift when they go south.

Wanting one or two procedures does not point to a personality issue. Constant surgery points towards a mental health issue, not a personality issue.

Of course I don't think anyone would take issue with a surgery that is of genuine medical merit but the whole 'oh i think my nose is too big' or 'i wish my cheekbones were higher' mentality is definitely a warped outlook in my opinion.

Penny Tration · 11-04-2014 07:28PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Wow, she is proper beautiful.

Breast reduction for back pain is not considered cosmetic surgery.

The back pain isn't severe enough to warrant surgery, though, which would make it cosmetic surgery.

it's severe enough that I have to work on my core a lot in the gym, though.

shopaholic01 · 11-04-2014 07:29PM

Jonny Blaze wrote: »

I wouldn't even agree with the whole fixing an unattractive feature now to be honest. I mean if a person is a usual or average looking then they should be refused surgery in my opinion.

The idea that an unattractive feature needs to be fixed is just a vanity / inflated body image issue and shouldn't be encouraged or condoned.

If you're willing to go under the knife to alter your looks, shouldn't you be encouraged to spend the money on a shrink to alter your mindset first?

What's the end game anyway? You can't achieve perfection.

You could say the same about make-up, colouring your hair, styling your hair, shaving, dressing well etc.

Should we just walk around in black sack and abandon all personal grooming?

Imagine you have a honker of a nose, that you spent your school days being mocked etc. You are a happy, well adjusted person, but you hate your nose. Why shouldn't you get it altered? Big difference between that and turning yourself into a doll replica.

Penny Tration · 11-04-2014 07:29PM

Candie wrote: »

You must be worn out managing those! I can't even carry a heavy handbag.

You get used to it, they've been huge since I was 12. :pac:

Jonny Blaze · 11-04-2014 07:30PM

bluewolf wrote: »

I think people who want surgery and can pay for it are none of your business tbh
It should be between them and a surgeon if they get it done
A psych consult beforehand? Maybe yeah. World is full of people doing things we don't like that ultimately don't harm anyone

Of course its none of my business but doesn't preclude my having an opinion on it!

Jonny Blaze · 11-04-2014 07:31PM

shopaholic01 wrote: »

You could say the same about make-up, colouring your hair, styling your hair, shaving, dressing well etc.

Should we just walk around in black sack and abandon all personal grooming?

Imagine you have a honker of a nose, that you spent your school days being mocked etc. You are a happy, well adjusted person, but you hate your nose. Why shouldn't you get it altered? Big difference between that and turning yourself into a doll replica.

All of those are essentially external though and it would be ridiculous to equate them with potential harmful and damaging surgery.

Putting on a few nice clothes or a bit of lippy isn't in anyway the same as literally slicing up or pouring dangerous chemicals / firing lasers at you face.

11-04-2014 07:33PM

Jonny Blaze wrote: »

All of those are essentially external though and it would be ridiculous to equate them with potential harmful and damaging surgery.

I think it's hard to understand how you can be affected by the way you look, until you are affected by the way you look.

Cosmetic Surgery - The Human Barbie

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