Manchester United Superthread 2014 Mod Warning post #2237

Cantona's Collars · 11-04-2014 10:57AM

Mail going with 10 players out:

v3ttel · 11-04-2014 10:57AM

bullvine wrote: »

You can blame the injuries or whatever for this but you'd really need to question his attitude.

Ferguson has always said that Nani's attitude was very good. I don't see why that would have changed this season.

Rubber_Soul · 11-04-2014 10:59AM

Just noticed an article from the Guardian with quotes from Krooses' agent;

"We are confronted with a variety of rumours for months but at the moment I believe that Toni plays in Bavaria until 2015 at least,"

That backs up a quote from Rumminegge last week;

“Toni Kroos is sure to wear Bayern Munich shirt next year.”

So I think we can rule out any chance of it happening this Summer.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/11/manchester-united-signing-toni-kroos-remote-bayern-munich?CMP=twt_gu

MagicIRL · 11-04-2014 11:03AM

zerks wrote: »

Mail going with 10 players out:

Yes please but I will set fire to Manchester if beloved flower Shinji leaves.

Lord TSC · 11-04-2014 11:05AM

Evra and Buttner. Brilliant. Will need two left backs now :rolleyes:

Maximus Alexander · 11-04-2014 11:08AM

zerks wrote: »

Mail going with 10 players out:

The Mail are so full of shit that this would almost make me wonder if Giggs, Rio, Evra and Vidic are staying on for another year after all.

Ernest Oreo · 11-04-2014 11:08AM

zerks wrote: »

Mail going with 10 players out:

Evra - 3.5m
Vidic - 3.5m
Rio - 0m
Giggs - 0m
Big Ando - 2m
Buttner - 3.5m
Nani -9m
Young - 8m
Cleverly - 4.5m

thats 34m. almost enough to buy Kroos

bangkok · 11-04-2014 11:14AM

Ernest Oreo wrote: »

Evra - 3.5m.......free
Vidic - 3.5m......Free
Rio - 0m
Giggs - 0m
Big Ando - 2m
Buttner - 3.5m
Nani -9m......should be closer to 15
Young - 8m
Cleverly - 4.5m

thats 34m. almost enough to buy Kroos

cant see anyone taking young for 8m... maybe spurs though

sigmundv · 11-04-2014 11:16AM

Ernest Oreo wrote: »

Vidic - 3.5m

Vidic's contract expires this summer, doesn't it? So we don't get anything for him.

11-04-2014 11:17AM

Pro. F wrote: »

No. The conversation was about whether Kagawa is a good choice to play from wide in general, not just whether he was the best we had available for this particular game.

The question of how to fit all our attacking players into one team comes up all the time theses days. Many people suggest playing Kagawa from wide. I originally asked if this game against Bayern was going to be held as proof that playing Kagawa from wide was a good idea. I think the answer to that question is a resounding "yes" - a good proportion of posters think that Kagawa was very good playing from wide against Bayern and, so presumably, will be using that as evidence as to why he should be used there in the first team going forward.

Personally, I think playing a player like Kagawa or Mata from wide will always have problems unless you are a possession domination team like Barca or Bayern. I don't see United becoming that any time soon so I think we'd be better off with more athletic wide players and leaving Kagawa and Mata in their natural position, central.

Bit of mis-communication on the initial debate. I was emphasizing why I believed he played well on Wednesday night but not in particular reference to where he was positioned. I have a feeling on Wednesday it was more of a roaming role even though he played on the right as he drifted inside on several occasions.

In the long term I agree that Kagawa should play a central role with Mata and I am hoping that with a decent signing in the summer a 3 man attacking midfield would be a solid option, but we need to have more than 1 option.

I think playing Mata & Kagawa on the wing is the 2nd choice.

Will I Amnt · 11-04-2014 11:17AM

bangkok wrote: »

cant see anyone taking young for 8m... maybe spurs though

There would be teams lining up for Young at 8m.

secman · 11-04-2014 11:17AM

Looking for the words of "Blue Moon"....... hoping to need it for the weekend.... at this stage pale blue ribbons on the trophy would do ....... if not dark blue........ red not acceptable when not MUFC......

Secman

sigmundv · 11-04-2014 11:17AM

Are those Aaron Lennon rumours still floating around? That must be a wind up.

jane82 · 11-04-2014 11:18AM

bangkok wrote: »

cant see anyone taking young for 8m... maybe spurs though

Hes English and pops up with the odd goal/ assist a few midtable teams will bid for him. Depends on his wages though. If they are too high for midtable teams it could end in a loan until contract runs out.

Maximus Alexander · 11-04-2014 11:18AM

Don't see Young, Cleverley or Butters going anywhere this summer tbh.

Cantona's Collars · 11-04-2014 11:19AM

sigmundv wrote: »

Are those Aaron Lennon rumours still floating around? That must be a wind up.

It's the Valencia effect,anyone who can run past Evra at speed has a chance with United no matter how sh1t they are.

11-04-2014 11:24AM

Ernest Oreo wrote: »

Evra - 3.5m
Vidic - 3.5m
Rio - 0m
Giggs - 0m
Big Ando - 2m
Buttner - 3.5m
Nani -9m
Young - 8m
Cleverly - 4.5m

thats 34m. almost enough to buy Kroos

Money is there regardless, were are not banking on sale of players for the cash, it's to make room.

Ernest Oreo · 11-04-2014 11:25AM

Aaron Lennon, Tom Huddlestone, Ben Arfa, Ross Barkley and Lallana are all very likely on the Moyes Midfield Shopping List

Will I Amnt · 11-04-2014 11:26AM

Ernest Oreo wrote: »

Aaron Lennon, Tom Huddlestone, Ben Arfa, Ross Barkley and Lallana are all very likely on the Moyes Midfield Shopping List

No they're not.

11-04-2014 11:27AM

Ernest Oreo wrote: »

Aaron Lennon, Tom Huddlestone, Ben Arfa, Ross Barkley and Lallana are all very likely on the Moyes Midfield Shopping List

Where arse are you pulling this out of? Tom Huddlestone just no

11-04-2014 11:27AM

Don't see why Buttner would be let go. He has looked decent when given a chance. The others fair enough.

Cantona's Collars · 11-04-2014 11:28AM

Keano wouldn't approve,

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/manchester-united-stars-danny-welbeck-6951213

Crimson King · 11-04-2014 11:29AM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

There would be teams lining up for Young at 8m.

Whilst I agree about the valuation is low, he is on monster wages compared to his input and thus to force him out some concessions on United's part would have to be made.

I also remember reading that an agreement with Fiorentina was in place for Anderson to be bought for £5.5M art the end of his loan. Although I have n idea how well he is doing to deem his loan a success.

Nani is worth £14M+ in anyone's books, although the fact he has not played this season really would be used as a bargaining tool.

keane2097 · 11-04-2014 11:29AM

zerks wrote: »

Keano wouldn't approve,

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/manchester-united-stars-danny-welbeck-6951213

Keano liked a night on the lash a lot more than those two whelps I can guarantee you.

Ernest Oreo · 11-04-2014 11:30AM

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Where arse are you pulling this out of? Tom Huddlestone just no

I'm merely speculating that instead of Kroos / Reus / Carvalho / Ronaldo, that the shopping list very possibly has more of a domestic flavour to it

Your Airbag · 11-04-2014 11:32AM

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Don't see Young, Cleverley or Butters going anywhere this summer tbh.

Thats my worry too. We keep poor players and sell the better ones. I think Buttner will stay on as cover for the LB we purchase.

zerks wrote: »

Mail going with 10 players out:

Out of those, the top line are really all players that have to leave/retire (excluding Ando)

Not in a million years should Kagawa be sold, especially if we get new manager who moves to a 4-3-3 or the likes, Kagawa could become a star then. Young only if another winger is coming in. Buttner I already mentioned. Nani I'd like to stay.

Clev should be the first name on the transfer list followed by Ando (who is as good as gone imo). Both are taking up squad positions in the area we are the weakest and both are clearly not even close to being good enough for UTD.

11-04-2014 11:32AM

Ernest Oreo wrote: »

I'm merely speculating that instead of Kroos / Reus / Carvalho / Ronaldo, that the shopping list very possibly has more of a domestic flavour to it

Your speculation is just giving me nightmares

MagicIRL · 11-04-2014 11:33AM

You continue to surprise me Oreo.

sigmundv · 11-04-2014 11:34AM

Ernest Oreo wrote: »

Aaron Lennon, Tom Huddlestone, Ben Arfa, Ross Barkley and Lallana are all very likely on the Moyes Midfield Shopping List

Barkley and Lallana I wouldn't mind, but the others can remain where they are.

Lord TSC · 11-04-2014 11:35AM

15m for a 28 year old who the club wants rid of, has barely played for two years and who can't get a game at a club in crisis and in desperate need of rebuilding. Sure, sounds about right....

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