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  • #2
    tomwaterford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Hitchens wrote: »
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/soldier-fails-in-legal-action-to-prevent-discharge-from-army-after-she-failed-fitness-test-30171181.html


    Genuine question prompted by reading the above article.

    Are the Gardai required to have a certain level of physical fitness throughout their career (as seems to apply to the Army)?


    going by my local gaurds .....its not enforced or else looks are verrrry deceieveing


  • #3
    Sir Arthur Daley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    Does one need to be a qualified guard to contribute to this thread?


  • #4
    Uriel.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,059 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    No. Not really. A physical competence test when signing up and as part of training in Templemore but nothing specific or binding once full attested


  • #5
    Ihatecuddles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles


    When I read AH Gardai I thought he meant the mods :o


  • #6
    Kaizersoze81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭Kaizersoze81


    Difference here is , army are given time to train during their duty. In fact parts of their duty is physical training. Guards are lucky to get a 30 min break in a 10 hour tour.


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  • #7
    Stavros Murphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    WikiHow wrote: »
    Does one need to be a qualified guard to contribute to this thread?

    No, once you have completed the mandatory AH "Expert on all topics" Levels 1, 3 and 5 fire ahead. I'm on 9 now - "thermodynamics". Piece of pi55.


  • #8
    Hitchens
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    Uriel. wrote: »
    No. Not really. A physical competence test when signing up and as part of training in Templemore but nothing specific or binding once full attested

    ok thanks, copy that


  • #9
    Hitchens
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    Kaizersoze81 wrote: »
    Difference here is , army are given time to train during their duty. In fact parts of their duty is physical training. Guards are lucky to get a 30 min break in a 10 hour tour.

    fair point


  • #10
    Uriel.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,059 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    Separately, that was a well reasoned and delivered judgment in my view.


  • #11
    shruikan2553
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    mauzo! wrote: »
    When I read AH Gardai I thought he meant the mods :o

    Dav does random inspection of the mods to ensure they are at peak physical fitness and they train with the navy seal mods.


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  • #12
    Stavros Murphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    shruikan2553 wrote: »
    Dav does random inspection of the mods to ensure they are at peak physical fitness and they train with the navy seal mods.

    Who tests Dav?


  • #13
    El Guapo!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,450 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    Stavros Murphy wrote: »
    Who tests Dav?

    DeV


  • #14
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Hitchens wrote: »
    Question for AH Gardai on Boards.ie...

    Yes they have recorded everything.


  • #15
    carzony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭carzony


    Sitting in a patrol car for hours, long shifts and very little time off has to have a bad effect on your body. I reckon that's why many are overweight


  • #16
    Uriel.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,059 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    carzony wrote: »
    Sitting in a patrol car for hours, long shifts and very little time off has to have a bad effect on your body. I reckon that's why many are overweight

    It really doesn't. It has everything to do with personal behaviour. A fatty is a fatty is a fatty (outside of medical issues).


  • #17
    tomwaterford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    carzony wrote: »
    Sitting in a patrol car for hours, long shifts and very little time off has to have a bad effect on your body. I reckon that's why many are overweight

    not to mention the free drinks from raiding after hours pub serving
    and more times than not free dinners at said establishment;)


  • #18
    Stavros Murphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    El Guapo! wrote: »
    DeV

    Ah, sure he's biased. Ye need to send him out for independent assessment. Five hours running up and down Croke Patrick with a server on his back ought to prove things.

    Judging by the Traffic Cop who checked my tax this afternoon, I'd say it's a ringing No on the Garda fitness question. Yer man was either smuggling five stab-vests up his shirt or else he'd a gut like a walrus.


  • #19
    carzony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭carzony


    Uriel. wrote: »
    It really doesn't. It has everything to do with personal behaviour. A fatty is a fatty is a fatty (outside of medical issues).
    I used to do a lot of driving late night. I constantly suffered from headaches, hadnt time to eat properly so lived on mcdonalds and roles. I also had craps in the back and legs sitting in the car for hours.

    Garda must suffer from the above if working the late nights..


    If not then there must be some other reason so many are overweight..


  • #20
    El Guapo!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,450 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    carzony wrote: »
    I used to do a lot of driving late night. I constantly suffered from headaches, hadnt time to eat properly so lived on mcdonalds and roles. I also had craps in the back and legs sitting in the car for hours.

    Garda must suffer from the above if working the late nights..


    If not then there must be some other reason so many are overweight..

    The car must've stank.


  • #21
    Boaty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Boaty


    Normal gardai are fit as they as mostly young but once you hit sergeant its downhill from their any senior member of AGS is most likely unfit and wouldn't be unable to run after any criminal.


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  • #22
    Stavros Murphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    carzony wrote: »
    I used to do a lot of driving late night. I constantly suffered from headaches, hadnt time to eat properly so lived on mcdonalds and roles. I also had craps in the back and legs sitting in the car for hours.

    Garda must suffer from the above if working the late nights..


    If not then there must be some other reason so many are overweight..

    Smell must have been woeful after a while - no wonder you had headaches.

    Edit: Damn You El Guapo, damn you to hell and a slower connection.


  • #23
    Yamanoto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    carzony wrote: »
    I also had craps in the back and legs sitting in the car for hours.

    There's a Clarkson trucker gag somewhere in there.


  • #24
    Conmaicne Mara
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭Conmaicne Mara


    Hitchens wrote: »
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/soldier-fails-in-legal-action-to-prevent-discharge-from-army-after-she-failed-fitness-test-30171181.html


    Genuine question prompted by reading the above article.

    Are the Gardai required to have a certain level of physical fitness throughout their career (as seems to apply to the Army)?

    Sit outside Mill Street Gda station in Galway and judge for yourself !


  • #25
    Holsten
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    Hell no they are not.


  • #26
    Stavros Murphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    I never trust a skinny Gard. Chances are they could outrun you.


  • #27
    Frosty McSnowballs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    Kaizersoze81 wrote: »
    Difference here is , army are given time to train during their duty. In fact parts of their duty is physical training. Guards are lucky to get a 30 min break in a 10 hour tour.

    Not strictly true. A lot of soldiers have to train during their lunch, or before/after work.

    Although no matter what, it is your responsibility to be fit enough to carry out your task as a member of any emergency service.


  • #28
    The Diabolical Monocle
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    tomwaterford wrote: »
    going by my local gaurds .....its not enforced or else looks are verrrry deceieveing

    It certainly wasn't for the two bann-gardai I can specifically recall, they were working together - cant say where as I dont want to identify them when I say man the harpoons.

    But ye gods !!

    - they were hence two men wide and not 10 hands 'igh, not of running, mind, but rather were proper fond 'it pantry.


  • #29
    corner of hells
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »
    It certainly wasn't for the two bann-gardai I can specifically recall, they were working together - cant say where as I dont want to identify them when I say man the harpoons.

    But ye gods !!

    - they were hence two men wide and not 10 hands high, not of running, mind, but rather were proper fond 'it pantry.

    Built for comfort , not speed , warmth in the winter and summer shade.


  • #30
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »
    Not strictly true. A lot of soldiers have to train during their lunch, or before/after work.

    Although no matter what, it is your responsibility to be fit enough to carry out your task as a member of any emergency service.

    True in both cases.. Most of us are afforded more time to train than a cop has, plus most of us (soldiers) have access to training facilities whereas a cop doesn't.

    But because soldiers have to pass an annual fitness assessment its right we're afforded time and facilities to train, if the same were true of AGS I'd say its proper and right to provide them with same.

    As regards the girl in the OP, tough sh*t.. She knows the rules, she knows what she has to do and how to use the system (ie access to PTI's & 'fat camp' for personal training) and still fell short of the required standards to stay in her contract.


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  • #31
    catallus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    I can't recall seeing a very overweight garda recently. And those bright yellow jackets are no good at all for showing off one's figure. We should get Gok-Wan on the case!


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