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Favourite Bible verse

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    Festy wrote: »
    And here was me thinking that God forgive all sins but apparently not

    You won't hear this one at mass


    Mark 3:28-29

    Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.”

    Do you understand what that means?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    Psalm 23:4
    Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.


    It always reminds me of that Coolio song.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Zed Bank


    Approximately 75% of the written word of the Bible is Old Testament, so yes I do give it due regard.

    However, of the 3 passages I quoted, only 1 was OT, the other 2 were NT.

    I suggest you brush up on your biblical studies before you criticise people of faith.

    "For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart."

    -Hebrews 4:12

    You do know the things you're "God" (mighty surveillance camera in the sky! :O) did in the old testament, right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Approximately 75% of the written word of the Bible is Old Testament, so yes I do give it due regard.

    However, of the 3 passages I quoted, only 1 was OT, the other 2 were NT.

    I suggest you brush up on your biblical studies before you criticise people of faith.

    "For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart."

    -Hebrews 4:12
    Post edited. They're two really horrible, hate-filled quotes though.
    I'm not criticising anyone of faith, just the more unreasonable scriptures and the fact most people don't follow them anyway as they're not compatible with reality. Plus, they espouse bigotry. How do I know for certain you're of faith anyway?
    If people want to embrace christianity in the form Christ would have endorsed (not the fire and brimstone approach) fair play to them. They should respect those who don't believe also though. Even though it's fashionable to say atheists are smug and arrogant, obviously plenty aren't.
    This really is just venom though:
    "The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none who does good."
    "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

    Any decent christian would reject it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭Festy


    Do you understand what that means?


    I think it means if you were to believe that Jesus miracles was the work of demons. The Pharisees accused him of this.

    Not 100% sure though


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 9,904 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    "I have fought the good fight, I have finished the course, I have kept the faith;"
    2 Timothy 4:7


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    Post edited. They're two really horrible, hate-filled quotes though.
    I'm not criticising anyone of faith, just the more unreasonable scriptures and the fact most people don't follow them anyway as they're not compatible with reality. Plus, they espouse bigotry. How do I know for certain you're of faith anyway?
    If people want to embrace christianity in the form Christ would have endorsed (not the fire and brimstone approach) fair play to them. They should respect those who don't believe also though. Even though it's fashionable to say atheists are smug and arrogant, obviously plenty aren't.
    This really is just venom though:



    Any decent christian would reject it.

    Why would a Christian reject the Holy book of Christianity, our only spiritual guide. It seems you think being Christian means conforming to the relativist morals of today. It doesn't.

    Jesus would have endorsed the quotes I wrote, given they are from the New Testament they are based on the teachings of Jesus Christ.
    Festy wrote: »
    I think it means if you were to believe that Jesus miracles was the work of demons. Not 100% sure though


    No, it means rejecting the Holy Spirit. Anyone who truly experiences the love and grandeur of God through the Holy Spirit, and consciously chooses to reject their creator is guilty of damnation. You would have to be truly evil to experience the Holy Spirit, and still reject it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Why would a Christian reject the Holy book of Christianity, our only spiritual guide.
    The... horrible bigot bits like.
    E.g. the stuff you posted.
    It seems you think being Christian means conforming to the relativist morals of today. It doesn't.
    Sure about that? Or is it that it's just convenient? Peeps should at least try.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    Pilate: I'm sure it feels very real to you.

    T-800: On August 29th, 1997, it's gonna feel pretty ****ing real to you too. Anybody not wearing 2 million sunblock is gonna have a real bad day. Get it?

    An excrept ~

    Arnie trying to convince the Galilee court system that he needs to get his time machine back, as he isn't where he should be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Zed Bank


    Why would a Christian reject the Holy book of Christianity, our only spiritual guide. It seems you think being Christian means conforming to the relativist morals of today. It doesn't.

    Jesus would have endorsed the quotes I wrote, given they are from the New Testament they are based on the teachings of Jesus Christ.




    No, it means rejecting the Holy Spirit. Anyone who truly experiences the love and grandeur of God through the Holy Spirit, and consciously chooses to reject their creator is guilty of damnation. You would have to be truly evil to experience the Holy Spirit, and still reject it.

    In that case I think its fair to say the teachings if Jesus are morally wrong. How about you think critically about things and base your morals on life experience and our innate sense of morality instead of relying on a book full of contradictions written four thousand years ago? You'll find its ultimately more satisfying. If you take the bible literally or believe every verse I can only assume you think the world is six thousand years old?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    The... horrible bigot bits like.
    E.g. the stuff you posted.

    Sure about that? Or is it that it's just convenient? Peeps should at least try.

    You're not making any sense. I actually don't even know how its 'bigoted' to believe that failure to accept Our Lord is a grave sin.

    The way we know how to behave as a Christian is through the teachings of Jesus Christ. The only way we know the teachings of Our Lord is through the Bible. Why would we reject those teachings because societies morals have shifted? How is it 'more Christian' to reject the Bible?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    Zed Bank wrote: »
    In that case I think its fair to say the teachings if Jesus are morally wrong. How about you think critically about things and base your morals on life experience and our innate sense of morality instead of relying on a book full of contradictions written four thousand years ago? You'll find its ultimately more satisfying. If you take the bible literally or believe every verse I can only assume you think the world is six thousand years old?

    Why would I think that?

    Much of the Bible is allegorical. I know its easier to argue against a strawman Christian creationist, but the vast majority of Christians think rationally and are not fools.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Especially you...

    - God


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 464 ✭✭The Th!ng




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭Festy


    Anyone else notice in the Old Testament that Satan isnt the evil character that is portrayed in the New Testament, In fact he's just an angel doing God's dirty work all under the command of God.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,655 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    Really? 9:37

    "Stop blaming me for the worlds problems, it isn't fair" said the Lord.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Zed Bank


    Why would I think that?

    Much of the Bible is allegorical. I know its easier to argue against a strawman Christian creationist, but the vast majority of Christians think rationally and are not fools.

    So why believe that all atheists are going to hell? If you don't believe in the creation myth, or noahs ark or whatever surely that gives you the right as a Christian to pick and choose whatever verses you want?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    You're not making any sense. I actually don't even know how its 'bigoted' to believe that failure to accept Our Lord is a grave sin.
    Oh yeh the following isn't espousing bigotry at all:
    "The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none who does good."

    "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Zed Bank


    Festy wrote: »
    Anyone else notice in the Old Testament that Satan isnt the evil character that is portrayed in the New Testament, In fact he's just an angel doing God's dirty work all under the command of God.

    He's the original rebel. He stood up to an absolute tyrant of a God, he was the one who gave humanity the gift of knowledge. If anything hes essentially a tragic anti hero who is to be admired.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭Vito Corleone


    But who prays for Satan? Who in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most.

    - Mark Twain


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Zed Bank


    "I would rather reign in hell than serve in heaven"-Satan


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭Festy


    Zed Bank wrote: »
    He's the original rebel. He stood up to an absolute tyrant of a God, he was the one who gave humanity the gift of knowledge. If anything hes essentially a tragic anti hero who is to be admired.

    True and If anyone has read the bible or looked into it they will see that Jesus can't possibly be the same God of the Old Testament. Jesus is the total opposite of that crazy psychopath, yet Christians still maintain that they are one :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Jesus was a total bleeding-heart do-gooder - he would be, ironically, disliked by quite a few of those who claim to follow his teachings.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Zed Bank


    Festy wrote: »
    True and If anyone has read the bible or looked into it they will see that Jesus can't possibly be the same God of the Old Testament. Jesus is the total opposite of that crazy psychopath, yet Christians still maintain that they are one :confused:

    Well Jesus was on the verge of death out in the desert and all Lucifer did was offer him some bread, what a nice guy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭Festy


    Zed Bank wrote: »
    Well Jesus was on the verge of death out in the desert and all Lucifer did was offer him some bread, what a nice guy!

    and the world :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium




    Best part on religion ever. Hysterical.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭Festy


    Seeing this video finally liberated me many months ago.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Zed Bank


    Festy wrote: »
    Seeing this video finally liberated me many months ago.


    It says its blocked in Ireland hahahahahaha, are you in the north by any chance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,655 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    Zed Bank wrote: »
    It says its blocked in Ireland hahahahahaha, are you in the north by any chance?

    Works right here in Galway..... :confused::confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭Festy


    Zed Bank wrote: »
    It says its blocked in Ireland hahahahahaha, are you in the north by any chance?

    No Im a buff :pac:

    Try this



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