Tired of all the Shatter bashing

Funkfield · 01-04-2014 01:39PM #1

April Fool!

The man is a joke!

force eleven · 01-04-2014 01:42PM

Thought this was a Star Trek thread. Carry on.

Tommy Dillon · 01-04-2014 01:48PM

More like alan ****ter bashing

wretcheddomain · 01-04-2014 02:04PM

Mad Hatter more like

Welsh Megaman · 01-04-2014 02:07PM

Wouldn't you say you were shattered, OP?

I was leaving anyway.

Lenin Skynard · 01-04-2014 02:17PM

Shatterbashing is fine so long as none of it goes on the ceiling.

Satriale · 01-04-2014 03:36PM

I thought this was a masturbation thread...:(

uch · 01-04-2014 03:38PM

Funkfield wrote: »

Shatter bashing

That sounds like something I do after 9 pints

renegademaster · 01-04-2014 06:46PM

ya got me!!

GenieOz · 01-04-2014 06:49PM

Bet you're tire of all the shîtter bashing too eh eh

131spanner · 01-04-2014 07:00PM

"Stop Bashing Our Shatter""

Nodin · 02-04-2014 02:52PM

No need for this anti-semitic ****e however.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0402/606198-garda-recordings/

Specialun · 02-04-2014 06:53PM

I hear on tne radio that the guards and bomb squad both went to his gaf with sirens blaring..

Is he playing the victim now to push some of the pressure off him...

Nodin · 02-04-2014 07:17PM

Specialun wrote: »

I hear on tne radio that the guards and bomb squad both went to his gaf with sirens blaring..

Is he playing the victim now to push some of the pressure off him...

Yeah, he used his xray vision to see it was harmless before he called it in.

donegal__road · 02-04-2014 07:45PM

he is a convenient scape-goat. I heard him speak 2 or 3 times ever... briefly. He seems like an inoffensive guy, and is supposed to be highly intelligent... that is all I know about Alan Shatter. If he resigned tomorrow I can safely say it wouldn't effect me in any way.

I also think that this Shatter, phone bugging, withdrawal of disgusting remarks business, is a storm in a teacup, purposefully manufactured by the government and the media to take to spotlight off the Anglo trial, which appears to be getting little or no coverage.

Femme_Fatale · 02-04-2014 08:01PM

Yeh I don't understand the venom either. I understand dislike of him, but intense vitriol... just seems like bandwagon-jumping.

Also, I disagree with Israeli occupation of Palestine and detest some tactics of the Israeli military, but I cannot understand anti-semitism. The Israeli state/military is not "the Jews" (some of whom also disagree with the occupation; plenty of whom are not fanatics like the loons that post here) and anti-semitism was around long before Israel.

donegal__road · 02-04-2014 08:07PM

I was just watching it live, through a link on the Indo website. It is little more than a media circus.

Femme_Fatale · 02-04-2014 08:11PM

donegal__road wrote: »

I also think that this Shatter, phone bugging, withdrawal of disgusting remarks business, is a storm in a teacup, purposefully manufactured by the government and the media to take to spotlight off the Anglo trial, which appears to be getting little or no coverage.

Nah I doubt there's a conspiracy like that, and it is pretty serious stuff - Shatter was out of line, just not deserving of the extreme abuse.

Why would the government use its own minister to deflect attention from the Anglo trial? And why would the media?

Wacker The Attacker · 02-04-2014 08:18PM

uch wrote: »

That sounds like something I do after 9 pints

Particularly creamy guinness

My name is URL · 02-04-2014 08:39PM

Oliver Flanagan would be spinning in his grave at such acts of intolerance :pac:

It's interesting that the whole anti-semitic angle seems to be taking a front seat to the fact that fake-anthrax was sent to him.

Nodin · 02-04-2014 11:41PM

donegal__road wrote: »

he is a convenient scape-goat. I heard him speak 2 or 3 times ever... briefly. He seems like an inoffensive guy, and is supposed to be highly intelligent... that is all I know about Alan Shatter. If he resigned tomorrow I can safely say it wouldn't effect me in any way.

I also think that this Shatter, phone bugging, withdrawal of disgusting remarks business, is a storm in a teacup, purposefully manufactured by the government and the media to take to spotlight off the Anglo trial, which appears to be getting little or no coverage.

As the anglo trial can only be reported on and not speculated or commented on till its over, that's hardly suprising.

Davarus Walrus · 03-04-2014 12:37AM

My name is URL wrote: »

Oliver Flanagan would be spinning in his grave at such acts of intolerance :pac:

It's interesting that the whole anti-semitic angle seems to be taking a front seat to the fact that fake-anthrax was sent to him.

The anthrax was fake. The swastika - sent to a member of the tiny Jewish community in Ireland - was real.

My name is URL · 03-04-2014 12:50AM

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

The anthrax was fake. The swastika - sent to a member of the tiny Jewish community in Ireland - was real.

The swastika was a bleedin' picture of goons from the 40's wearing a swastika.

If I was sent a package containing an unknown white powder and a religiously offensive photograph, I know which one I'd be more concerned about.. but Enda Kenny and the media seem to think that the photograph is of most concern.

sopretty · 03-04-2014 12:54AM

donegal__road wrote: »

he is a convenient scape-goat. I heard him speak 2 or 3 times ever... briefly. He seems like an inoffensive guy, and is supposed to be highly intelligent... that is all I know about Alan Shatter. If he resigned tomorrow I can safely say it wouldn't effect me in any way.

I also think that this Shatter, phone bugging, withdrawal of disgusting remarks business, is a storm in a teacup, purposefully manufactured by the government and the media to take to spotlight off the Anglo trial, which appears to be getting little or no coverage.

Apparently I'm fierce intelligent. I wouldn't put me in charge of the department of Justice on that basis however! :pac:

donegal__road · 03-04-2014 12:58AM

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Nah I doubt there's a conspiracy like that, and it is pretty serious stuff - Shatter was out of line, just not deserving of the extreme abuse.

Why would the government use its own minister to deflect attention from the Anglo trial? And why would the media?

Because Independent Media (Today fm, Newstalk, Indo newspaper, etc. etc) was bought with a loan borrowed from Anglo, by a certain close friend and backer of the government. There was a significant write-down on the same loan, to the tune of €100 million.

Davarus Walrus · 03-04-2014 12:59AM

My name is URL wrote: »

The swastika was a bleedin' picture of goons from the 40's wearing a swastika.

If I was sent a package containing an unknown white powder and a religiously offensive photograph, I know which one I'd be more concerned about.. but Enda Kenny and the media seem to think that the photograph is of most concern.

And we can only surmise that the main item of concern at first was the unknown white powder - before it became known that it wasn't dangerous. And then we are left with the fact that a member of the Jewish community in Ireland was sent a photo of people wearing a symbol associated with a movement that wanted to wipe out the Jews.

I think many things about Enda Kenny, but I'm not sure he is Machiavellian enough to decide to run with this as a political football while his close friend and political ally watches on.

It's a disgusting action, and its reporting in the media is justified.

Davarus Walrus · 03-04-2014 01:06AM

donegal__road wrote: »

Because Independent Media Inc. was bought with a loan borrowed from Anglo, by a certain close friend and backer of the government. There was a significant write-down on the same loan, to the tune of €100 million.

Here ya go: http://www.irishtimes.com/news/the-anglo-trial

The media don't want to prejudice the case. So they report what was said in court. That's a rather more grounded and cohesive narrative than one involving some grand overarching conspiracy.

D1stant · 03-04-2014 01:18AM

I hate Shatter on so many levels. He is the perfect storm of Pr1ckdom

My name is URL · 03-04-2014 01:21AM

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

I think many things about Enda Kenny, but I'm not sure he is Machiavellian enough to decide to run with this as a political football while his close friend and political ally watches on.

I jokingly and flippantly mentioned Oliver Flanagan a few posts back, but Enda Kenny was opportunistic enough to personally pay tribute to perhaps the most anti-semitic man in elected Irish history. In 2005 he honoured him at a special event.. and spoke very highly of him too by all accounts.

Flanagan (and his legacy) is something that many in FG still hold in high esteem.. so you could forgive people for being cynical when a guy like Enda comes out with a load of spiel about how FG have historically been supportive of any particular group.

He did make a political football out of it today. Why else would he bring it up in the Dail just prior to a discussion about the minister and his department? Surely people aren't still that naive about Irish politics?!

Femme_Fatale · 03-04-2014 01:25AM

donegal__road wrote: »

Because Independent Media (Today fm, Newstalk, Indo newspaper, etc. etc) was bought with a loan borrowed from Anglo, by a certain close friend and backer of the government. There was a significant write-down on the same loan, to the tune of €100 million.

Well Denis O'Brien has an interest in Independent News & Media but his radio portfolio is Communicorp - I don't think they're all the one.
Today FM covered the Anglo trial latest in the news today. If there was a ban on criticism of Anglo on Today FM, a big chunk of Ray Darcy's show would be different.

donegal__road · 03-04-2014 01:38AM

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

Here ya go: http://www.irishtimes.com/news/the-anglo-trial

The media don't want to prejudice the case. So they report what was said in court. That's a rather more grounded and cohesive narrative than one involving some grand overarching conspiracy.

yep, I know it has been in the papers every day for the last couple of weeks, Im following it. But at the same time I cant help noticing that it appears as a sub heading on the dailys, and in the Indo in particular an article about the Anglo trial would appear in the morning on unison.ie main page, and by the afternoon it would be gone without a trace.

Im not saying the media are completely ignoring it, they seem to be prioritizing other stories (which to me are of far less magnitude than Anglo)... it makes me wonder at the timing of this whole phone call taping, Garda commissioner retiring, minister for justice no confidence bolleaux that we are being told is of way more importance, and seriousness than the shower of fcukers in Anglo who have sunk this country into deep debt for the next 20 years.

The Anglo trial was to be one of the most significant court cases this country was to ever see.... it is getting a lot less media attention than most of us would have anticipated,... wouldn't you say?

Tired of all the Shatter bashing

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