Tired of all the Shatter bashing

Funkfield

April Fool!

The man is a joke!

force eleven

Thought this was a Star Trek thread. Carry on.

Tommy Dillon

More like alan ****ter bashing

wretcheddomain

Mad Hatter more like

Welsh Megaman

Wouldn't you say you were shattered, OP?



I was leaving anyway.

Lenin Skynard

Shatterbashing is fine so long as none of it goes on the ceiling.

Satriale

I thought this was a masturbation thread...:(

uch

Funkfield wrote: »

Shatter bashing

That sounds like something I do after 9 pints

renegademaster

ya got me!!

GenieOz

Bet you're tire of all the shîtter bashing too eh eh

131spanner

"Stop Bashing Our Shatter""

Nodin

No need for this anti-semitic ****e however.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0402/606198-garda-recordings/

Specialun

I hear on tne radio that the guards and bomb squad both went to his gaf with sirens blaring..

Is he playing the victim now to push some of the pressure off him...

Nodin

Specialun wrote: »

I hear on tne radio that the guards and bomb squad both went to his gaf with sirens blaring..

Is he playing the victim now to push some of the pressure off him...

Yeah, he used his xray vision to see it was harmless before he called it in.

donegal__road

he is a convenient scape-goat. I heard him speak 2 or 3 times ever... briefly. He seems like an inoffensive guy, and is supposed to be highly intelligent... that is all I know about Alan Shatter. If he resigned tomorrow I can safely say it wouldn't effect me in any way.

I also think that this Shatter, phone bugging, withdrawal of disgusting remarks business, is a storm in a teacup, purposefully manufactured by the government and the media to take to spotlight off the Anglo trial, which appears to be getting little or no coverage.

Femme_Fatale

Yeh I don't understand the venom either. I understand dislike of him, but intense vitriol... just seems like bandwagon-jumping.

Also, I disagree with Israeli occupation of Palestine and detest some tactics of the Israeli military, but I cannot understand anti-semitism. The Israeli state/military is not "the Jews" (some of whom also disagree with the occupation; plenty of whom are not fanatics like the loons that post here) and anti-semitism was around long before Israel.

donegal__road

I was just watching it live, through a link on the Indo website. It is little more than a media circus.

Femme_Fatale

donegal__road wrote: »

I also think that this Shatter, phone bugging, withdrawal of disgusting remarks business, is a storm in a teacup, purposefully manufactured by the government and the media to take to spotlight off the Anglo trial, which appears to be getting little or no coverage.

Nah I doubt there's a conspiracy like that, and it is pretty serious stuff - Shatter was out of line, just not deserving of the extreme abuse.

Why would the government use its own minister to deflect attention from the Anglo trial? And why would the media?

Wacker The Attacker

uch wrote: »

That sounds like something I do after 9 pints

Particularly creamy guinness

My name is URL

Oliver Flanagan would be spinning in his grave at such acts of intolerance :pac:

It's interesting that the whole anti-semitic angle seems to be taking a front seat to the fact that fake-anthrax was sent to him.

Nodin

donegal__road wrote: »

he is a convenient scape-goat. I heard him speak 2 or 3 times ever... briefly. He seems like an inoffensive guy, and is supposed to be highly intelligent... that is all I know about Alan Shatter. If he resigned tomorrow I can safely say it wouldn't effect me in any way.

I also think that this Shatter, phone bugging, withdrawal of disgusting remarks business, is a storm in a teacup, purposefully manufactured by the government and the media to take to spotlight off the Anglo trial, which appears to be getting little or no coverage.

As the anglo trial can only be reported on and not speculated or commented on till its over, that's hardly suprising.

Davarus Walrus

My name is URL wrote: »

Oliver Flanagan would be spinning in his grave at such acts of intolerance :pac:

It's interesting that the whole anti-semitic angle seems to be taking a front seat to the fact that fake-anthrax was sent to him.

The anthrax was fake. The swastika - sent to a member of the tiny Jewish community in Ireland - was real.

My name is URL

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

The anthrax was fake. The swastika - sent to a member of the tiny Jewish community in Ireland - was real.

The swastika was a bleedin' picture of goons from the 40's wearing a swastika.

If I was sent a package containing an unknown white powder and a religiously offensive photograph, I know which one I'd be more concerned about.. but Enda Kenny and the media seem to think that the photograph is of most concern.

sopretty

donegal__road wrote: »

he is a convenient scape-goat. I heard him speak 2 or 3 times ever... briefly. He seems like an inoffensive guy, and is supposed to be highly intelligent... that is all I know about Alan Shatter. If he resigned tomorrow I can safely say it wouldn't effect me in any way.

I also think that this Shatter, phone bugging, withdrawal of disgusting remarks business, is a storm in a teacup, purposefully manufactured by the government and the media to take to spotlight off the Anglo trial, which appears to be getting little or no coverage.

Apparently I'm fierce intelligent. I wouldn't put me in charge of the department of Justice on that basis however! :pac:

donegal__road

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Nah I doubt there's a conspiracy like that, and it is pretty serious stuff - Shatter was out of line, just not deserving of the extreme abuse.

Why would the government use its own minister to deflect attention from the Anglo trial? And why would the media?

Because Independent Media (Today fm, Newstalk, Indo newspaper, etc. etc) was bought with a loan borrowed from Anglo, by a certain close friend and backer of the government. There was a significant write-down on the same loan, to the tune of €100 million.

Davarus Walrus

My name is URL wrote: »

The swastika was a bleedin' picture of goons from the 40's wearing a swastika.

If I was sent a package containing an unknown white powder and a religiously offensive photograph, I know which one I'd be more concerned about.. but Enda Kenny and the media seem to think that the photograph is of most concern.

And we can only surmise that the main item of concern at first was the unknown white powder - before it became known that it wasn't dangerous. And then we are left with the fact that a member of the Jewish community in Ireland was sent a photo of people wearing a symbol associated with a movement that wanted to wipe out the Jews.

I think many things about Enda Kenny, but I'm not sure he is Machiavellian enough to decide to run with this as a political football while his close friend and political ally watches on.

It's a disgusting action, and its reporting in the media is justified.

Davarus Walrus

donegal__road wrote: »

Because Independent Media Inc. was bought with a loan borrowed from Anglo, by a certain close friend and backer of the government. There was a significant write-down on the same loan, to the tune of €100 million.

Here ya go: http://www.irishtimes.com/news/the-anglo-trial

The media don't want to prejudice the case. So they report what was said in court. That's a rather more grounded and cohesive narrative than one involving some grand overarching conspiracy.

D1stant

I hate Shatter on so many levels. He is the perfect storm of Pr1ckdom

My name is URL

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

I think many things about Enda Kenny, but I'm not sure he is Machiavellian enough to decide to run with this as a political football while his close friend and political ally watches on.

I jokingly and flippantly mentioned Oliver Flanagan a few posts back, but Enda Kenny was opportunistic enough to personally pay tribute to perhaps the most anti-semitic man in elected Irish history. In 2005 he honoured him at a special event.. and spoke very highly of him too by all accounts.

Flanagan (and his legacy) is something that many in FG still hold in high esteem.. so you could forgive people for being cynical when a guy like Enda comes out with a load of spiel about how FG have historically been supportive of any particular group.

He did make a political football out of it today. Why else would he bring it up in the Dail just prior to a discussion about the minister and his department? Surely people aren't still that naive about Irish politics?!

Femme_Fatale

donegal__road wrote: »

Because Independent Media (Today fm, Newstalk, Indo newspaper, etc. etc) was bought with a loan borrowed from Anglo, by a certain close friend and backer of the government. There was a significant write-down on the same loan, to the tune of €100 million.

Well Denis O'Brien has an interest in Independent News & Media but his radio portfolio is Communicorp - I don't think they're all the one.
Today FM covered the Anglo trial latest in the news today. If there was a ban on criticism of Anglo on Today FM, a big chunk of Ray Darcy's show would be different.

donegal__road

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

Here ya go: http://www.irishtimes.com/news/the-anglo-trial

The media don't want to prejudice the case. So they report what was said in court. That's a rather more grounded and cohesive narrative than one involving some grand overarching conspiracy.

yep, I know it has been in the papers every day for the last couple of weeks, Im following it. But at the same time I cant help noticing that it appears as a sub heading on the dailys, and in the Indo in particular an article about the Anglo trial would appear in the morning on unison.ie main page, and by the afternoon it would be gone without a trace.

Im not saying the media are completely ignoring it, they seem to be prioritizing other stories (which to me are of far less magnitude than Anglo)... it makes me wonder at the timing of this whole phone call taping, Garda commissioner retiring, minister for justice no confidence bolleaux that we are being told is of way more importance, and seriousness than the shower of fcukers in Anglo who have sunk this country into deep debt for the next 20 years.

The Anglo trial was to be one of the most significant court cases this country was to ever see.... it is getting a lot less media attention than most of us would have anticipated,... wouldn't you say?

sopretty

donegal__road wrote: »

The Anglo trial was to be one of the most significant court cases this country was to ever see.... it is getting a lot less media attention than most of us would have anticipated,... wouldn't you say?

The result of the trial will be of interest.

donegal__road

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Well Denis O'Brien has an interest in Independent News & Media but his radio portfolio is Communicorp - I don't think they're all the one.
Today FM covered the Anglo trial latest in the news today. If there was a ban on criticism of Anglo on Today FM, a big chunk of Ray Darcy's show would be different.

this is an extract from a post last year on Politics.ie

donegal__road

sopretty wrote: »

The result of the trial will be of interest.

for sure

Karl Stein

It's the Spanish I don't trust.

Davarus Walrus

donegal__road wrote: »

this is an extract from a post last year on Politics.ie

Reads like the ramblings of a mad man to be honest.

Son Of A Vidic

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

I think many things about Enda Kenny, but I'm not sure he is Machiavellian enough to decide to run with this as a political football

Since he is a man who more than most, has built a career whilst spinelessly hiding behind the ranks of his henchmen. He is more than capable imo.

Nodin

donegal__road wrote: »

yep, I know it has been in the papers every day for the last couple of weeks, Im following it. But at the same time I cant help noticing that it appears as a sub heading on the dailys, and in the Indo in particular an article about the Anglo trial would appear in the morning on unison.ie main page, and by the afternoon it would be gone without a trace.

Im not saying the media are completely ignoring it, they seem to be prioritizing other stories (which to me are of far less magnitude than Anglo)... it makes me wonder at the timing of this whole phone call taping, Garda commissioner retiring, minister for justice no confidence bolleaux that we are being told is of way more importance, and seriousness than the shower of fcukers in Anglo who have sunk this country into deep debt for the next 20 years.

The Anglo trial was to be one of the most significant court cases this country was to ever see.... it is getting a lot less media attention than most of us would have anticipated,... wouldn't you say?

This has already been explained to you.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=89754277&postcount=21

donegal__road

Nodin wrote: »

This has already been explained to you.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=89754277&postcount=21

I understand that, my point is that the reportage on the Anglo trial seems scant, when compared to the media coverage of the Moriarity Tribunal when it was in full swing for example.

donegal__road

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

Reads like the ramblings of a mad man to be honest.

whatever you think..

everlast75

Specialun wrote: »

I hear on tne radio that the guards and bomb squad both went to his gaf with sirens blaring..

Is he playing the victim now to push some of the pressure off him...

A jew with a persecution complex? Well I never...






(I joke I joke)

Nodin

donegal__road wrote: »

I understand that, my point is that the reportage on the Anglo trial seems scant, when compared to the media coverage of the Moriarity Tribunal when it was in full swing for example.

There were not the same restrictions as there is on a court case.

hatrickpatrick

As someone who's been utterly outspoken about Anglo and general banking shenanigans around the world, I for one am quite glad that discussion of it at the moment is muted.

It would literally be the most galling thing imaginable if after all that work by the Gardai and various other offices in bringing the case, it was subsequently thrown out on the basis of the jury being prejudiced because of over exposure in the press.

donegal__road

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

As someone who's been utterly outspoken about Anglo and general banking shenanigans around the world, I for one am quite glad that discussion of it at the moment is muted.

It would literally be the most galling thing imaginable if after all that work by the Gardai and various other offices in bringing the case, it was subsequently thrown out on the basis of the jury being prejudiced because of over exposure in the press.

I get the picture now, thanks.

donegal__road

I wouldn't be so keen on him as a writer all the same...

sopretty

donegal__road wrote: »

I wouldn't be so keen on him as a writer all the same...

It's like a Mills & Boon novel lol. Gosh, what a load of drivel.