Season 4 Finale - Episode 16 - "A" [AMC] [SPOILERS]

sok2005 wrote: »

This might be a stupid question but

do they have to eat their victims alive? If they kill them, they'll turn and then it's just horrible zombie meat!

If they destroy the brain when killing the victims they won't turn.

Great episode, but I was gutted with where it finished. It's going to be a long 7 months. I am a bit disappointed that we barely got a glance inside Terminus before it all ended, but I guess it sets up next season nicely.

The scene with Joe's gang was the highlight for me. Rick ripping out Joe's neck was such a holy sh*t moment. And I loved how that was juxtaposed with the flashbacks to the prison where we see Rick trying to learn a new, domesticated way of life.

One thing that bothered me: "they don't know who they're screwing with". AMC has no problem with one man biting out another man's neck, or implied threats of child rape, but dropping the F-bomb would be crossing the line entirely.

Paddy Cow wrote: »

What island? There is no island. Have I missed something here?

He's making a Lost joke.

I wish we'd found out what happened to Beth and according to the producers her story wont be quickly resolved in series 5.

Not a bad finale,definitely leaves me wanting more.

Gah, I'm such a sucker for spoilers. I already know scene by scene what happens in the episode, even though I won't see it until tonight on Fox. I'm a bit surprised there wasn't a major character death though, or at least one of them lying in a pool of blood somewhere, leaving us wondering about their fate. Maybe the Season 5 opener will be a stonking bloodbath, with one or more of them not making it out alive....chances are, if it were real life, there probably would be 'major character' casualties in a genuine shootout like that...the Terminus peeps have the advantage of being able to shoot from the rooftops.

And if Daryl dies, etc etc....

Good episode, but I agree with others in that it didn't feel like a season finale, but I think that's a problem more with season 4 as a whole, rather than just the episode.

To me, season 4 has felt like the end of season 3 with The Governor arc, and the start of this new one. The pacing has just been ****.

Not great bad and not bad, just like most of this season. Did like the exchange between Darryl and Rick : "You're my brother".
It's only now getting interesting at the end of the season, so very disappointed. Still be back for next season!

A very strong season finale which had lots of tension and action, with that scene between Rick and the outlaws being pretty much up there with some of the most brutal and raw footage TWD has ever shown. Just when you think Rick has been stripped of all humanity he yet again has to leave his body and fight back with everything he has got. It was disturbing to see that big fat slimeball trying to rape Carl..

Terminus itself was set up petty well. I was thinking it was a bit stupid for them to just all jump into the back of the complex but then the pieces fell together. Dont know why they didnt just shoot them all dead when they were surrounded. Surely a quick kill shot to the head then strip the carcass for dinner, dont really get the whole point of keeping them alive, seems like they already had a fair number of living victims in the containers..

The second half of season 4 was much better than the first half in my view. The first 7 episodes were painfully slow and boring and plotwise, amounted to nothing more than "the pigs may be carrying a virus", streeeeeeeetched out to maximum capacity and then some, including Hershel repeating the line "we all have jobs to do" approx. 25 times an episode, until we finally got some action and the Governer did in Episode 8 what he should have done at the end of Season 3.

From there on, TWD hit the ground running and although you might call some of the lats few episodes filler, they were still enjoyable in that it didnt drag on too much and it added to your perception of a character (Michonne has a comic side, Daryl isnt tough all the time, Carol has some deep reserves etc etc) so bring on Season 5, although I reckon one more season at a push is all they will get out of it surely.

I have to say I enjoyed that. After the mid season break, I left it a few weeks (as True Detective started, so continued with that instead) but wow that was quality from the return. I love how dark the show has become, the writers have not hold back at all anymore, eg. Judith smother scenes, child death, potential rape attempt on Carl to Rick ripping out someones throat with his teeth. Its all grim and highlights just how sick and twisted people could/would become in an apocalyptic world to stay alive.

I can't say I was longing for it to return after Season 3's finale but boy I can't wait until October now! great stuff!

Weak final line but that was a hell of an episodes besides that. Best kill so far by anyone from Rick I reckon.

Quite liked this, but wasn't exactly what I was expecting. Just thought it would jump back and forward through the 'groups' more, maybe seeing them all arrive at the same conclusion about Terminus at the same time.

I thought the beginning was excellent though, the scene where Darryl's group were being fought off was one of the most tense scenes I've seen in anything in ages. Normally I think 'yeah, they'll all live', but that really had me doubting. Rick ripping your man's jugular out when it all seemed lost was amazing.

As for Terminus, not sure who is going to rescue them now. Guess they'll start pulling off the less known characters for a BBQ for a bit before getting an escape on. I do love this show!

AVFC.Stephen wrote: »

think its suggesting they have carroll and tyreese and the baby, though i had to read a comment on a different forum to catch on to that myself

Not sure about the baby theory myself, powdered Milk and similar products to that are very high in protein and fat and are commonly used for elderly patient to help them gain and maintain weight, as well as used by aid workers to help with malnutrition. It looks (to me anyway) that the Terminus Group was feeding Glenn, Abraham and co to help them to put a bit of meat on their bones before ringing the dinner bell!

It would also explain why they haven't been shooting people on entry, they like to fatten them up and make the most out of their kill, especially as I imagine that as the apocalypse progresses they are getting fewer and fewer people venturing into the place. You can preserve meat pretty easily without a freezer but you can't make more meat appear out of thin air...

Well, after watching it, I was just a little disappointed that Jeff Kober didn't get more screen time in this episode. He's so good at playing the bad guy that it seemed a shame to give an actor of his calibre about 3 lines in an episode and then kill him off. I get that it was a pivotal scene for Rick and his gang, and I'm not sure how else it could have been done, but I would have preferred to see more of a verbal back-and-forth with Joe and Rick before the inevitable happened.

Also the running through Terminus scenes with the bad guys shooting at them to funnel them towards the rail cars...to me it seemed like the actors were knackered, perhaps it was Take 15 of that scene, but to me they looked genuinely tired and almost seemed to show no resistance to the direction the shooters were sending them in. Norman/Daryl especially seemed like he was about to drop in places

But overall I enjoyed it - nice to see Rick and Daryl re-affirm their bond, we finally found out why Michonne had those walker pets, and what happened to her son (I had been wondering that for ages!!). Nice to see (most of) the Scooby gang back together and it will be interesting to see how they get out of this one (I'm guessing Carol and Tyrese and that buried bag of guns have something to do with it) and who, from the others we heard shouting for help from the containers, will become part of the group for Season 5.

Cork boy 55 wrote: »

Walking dead wiki gives both spellings



http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Glenn_Rhee_(TV_Series)

Nice try, Wiki editor!! You were foiled (twice) though. :rolleyes:

Thank fook the moderator corrected that posters spelling of Glenn. Because I was getting confused by 'Glynn' and thought it might be Carl, Rick or Darryl.

Speaking of Darryl, he must be made of titanium to survive that beatdown, even his toupee didn't budge.

This series could have done with more episodes like this. Pity Jeff Kober got only a few episodes. Carls acting is improving though.

Oh well roll on Game of Thrones. Just 6 more sleeps...