Protester brings AK rifle to protest again police brutality

MadsL · 31-03-2014 03:40AM #1

So, my hometown is scene to a protest against the highest rate of police shootings in the US and the sparking incident was this shooting of a homeless man (warning graphic) which the Police Chief claimed was justified. Anonymous just hacked the APD website.

A second day of protest just kicked off and included this guy bringing what looks like an AK platform rifle to the protest.

So AH - 2nd Amendment rights as a means of protest? What could possibly go wrong? It just got dark here so we will see what happens, APD have threatened the crowd with tear gas and are in full riot gear......

News updates at http://krqe.com/

Popescu · 31-03-2014 03:59AM

The shooting of the homeless man was certainly not justified. In my life, I have never heard a police chief ever admit culpability until their department is taken to court and proved to be in the wrong. The police always, without fail, support the actions of officers. I notice that one of the killers was a policeman who had been dismissed from a different police department for alleged fraud and the Albuquerque Police Department had promised that he would not be authorized to carry a firearm while they awaited his court hearing. I also saw that as well as half a dozen armed policemen on the scene where the mentally ill homeless man was shot to death, there was also a dog handler. When the dog went to attack the victim, he pulled a couple of knives to protect himself and tried to escape. There is no way this killing was lawful.

Witcher · 31-03-2014 04:04AM

The amount of comments talking about the right to 'bare arms'..must love tanning:pac:

JONJO THE MISER · 31-03-2014 04:07AM

You live in albuquerque?
Was in santa fe a few years ago for 2 days, lovely women lovely scenery, beautiful place.

WilyCoyote · 31-03-2014 04:10AM

Didn't realise that Alberquerque was a real place - like Gloccamara!

By the time I make Albuquerque She'll be working

She'll probably stop at lunch - and give me a call

But she'll just hear that phone keep on ringing - off the wall, that's all

Popescu · 31-03-2014 04:12AM

The FBI are now involved. "The FBI has opened an investigation into the March 16 shooting of 38-year-old James Boyd in the Albuquerque foothills as officials have said he appeared to be surrendering. It marks the first confirmed criminal investigation of Albuquerque police by federal officials, who more than a year ago launched a civil rights probe of the department over allegations of excessive force and a spike in police shootings." (Federal News Radio)
http://www.federalnewsradio.com/316/3592670/Albuquerque-shooting-recordings-to-be-given-to-FBI

MadsL · 31-03-2014 04:20AM

I think the point of the open carry protest is kind of an interesting one...when the police behave in a "shoot first, questions later" would they be less inclined to do so if everyone was carrying or would it be a case of "well, he had a gun"...

In a town that isn't that removed from the Old West, I'm not surprised to see citizens wishing the removal of its peace officers from office, after all Billy the Kid started out as a "Regulator" and sworn deputy...;)

MadsL · 31-03-2014 04:22AM

Blay wrote: »

The amount of comments talking about the right to 'bare arms'..must love tanning:pac:

What about the right to arm bears?

WilyCoyote · 31-03-2014 04:30AM

"The right to bear arms", is a metaphor for, "we are all fucking paranoid". Therefore if my hair-trigger is faster than your hair-trigger, it's got to be right.
What has got in to the American psyche to produce this "normal" thinking?

Old men plan wars, young men die in them ....... WTF! I mean folks, has fast food depleted the thinking process?

J_E · 31-03-2014 04:54AM

Seems to be a string of these events happening for the longest time now. Shoot first, ask questions, then shoot again...

Completely against the average American carrying a gun, by the way. Right to bear arms is BS.

MadsL · 31-03-2014 05:03AM

WilyCoyote wrote: »

"The right to bear arms", is a metaphor for, "we are all fucking paranoid". Therefore if my hair-trigger is faster than your hair-trigger, it's got to be right.
What has got in to the American psyche to produce this "normal" thinking?

Old men plan wars, young men die in them ....... WTF! I mean folks, has fast food depleted the thinking process?

Yet America gets safer every year? Go figure...

MadsL · 31-03-2014 05:05AM

Cydoniac wrote: »

Seems to be a string of these events happening for the longest time now. Shoot first, ask questions, then shoot again...

Completely against the average American carrying a gun, by the way. Right to bear arms is BS.

But fast draw cops are OK to have them...?

joe swanson · 31-03-2014 05:09AM

Makes me glad to live in Ireland. Despite all the whining, i don't think we have it that bad.

MadsL · 31-03-2014 05:16AM

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/6894179/events/2882953?query=albuquerque&cat=event

Live stream...

Guy just got out of a Paintball Service van and yelled "Buy Guns!"

He's also carrying a rifle...and claims he has body armour for sale...

Sir Arthur Daley · 31-03-2014 05:20AM

Well holy God, things are gone to wreck.

MadsL · 31-03-2014 05:23AM

http://krqe.com/live-streaming/

Local news station streaming..

MadsL · 31-03-2014 05:27AM

Lol. High winds in ABQ tonight so the APD just accidentally maced a news crew...:D

MadsL · 31-03-2014 05:34AM

Cops are massing up and forming a line in riot gear.

MadsL · 31-03-2014 05:37AM

This is getting heavy - cops advancing ordering dispersal.
Riot in 3...2..

MadsL · 31-03-2014 05:39AM

Local news station that got maced is now embargoed and off air.

Orders to disperse being give by the cops.

MadsL · 31-03-2014 06:31AM

APD just launched tear gas at protesters.

http://kasa.com/live-stream/

seamus · 31-03-2014 08:14AM

MadsL wrote: »

Yet America gets safer every year? Go figure...

As a matter of interest, what the metric on which being "safer" is based?

I'm not denying that it's probably true in general, but state oppression appears to be a growing phenomenon in the US, from overbudgeted and overactive police forces right up to endemic widespread intrusion by federal bodies like the NSA.

You could bring in an "all offenders are shot on sight" law, and you'll see crime rates plummet. But would you say that people are "safer"? That's really my question. Are people in the US actually safer? And if they are is it coming at the expense of personal freedom?

Kirby · 31-03-2014 08:21AM

People make mistakes....and the police are people. But mistakes made with mace or a baton are a lot less likely to be lethal than mistakes made with guns. Its a strong argument against regular police forces being armed. A section of the force should be armed to deal with high threat situations. Regular beat cops should not be.

I'm glad our police force isn't armed. I went to school with a few lads who are now guards and the thought of them being armed is a scary one.

Gatling · 31-03-2014 08:28AM

Popescu wrote: »

I also saw that as well as half a dozen armed policemen on the scene where the mentally ill homeless man was shot to death, there was also a dog handler. When the dog went to attack the victim, he pulled a couple of knives to protect himself and tried to escape. There is no way this killing was lawful.

He had the knifes already in his hands before the dog was was sent ,
the rule never bring a knife to a gunfight should have applied here ,

APD have a horrendous record when it comes to killing and unjustified actions ,
Including pepper sprayed a ladies nether regions as a punishment,
Abusing supposed drug suspects including forcing one suspect through 8 internals without a doctor or medic present no drugs were ever found ,
Multiple supposed justified clean kills by police officers including a few so called suicide's in police custody

Fratton Fred · 31-03-2014 09:04AM

The police should send in Troy, Gabriella and Sharpay. They know how to get the people of Albuquerque into a happy mood. They could turn a riot in to a flash mob dance thingymajig.

Khannie · 31-03-2014 10:12AM

That video is ridiculous. The attempted justification of shooting that man repeatedly is disgusting.

end of the road · 31-03-2014 01:49PM

Gatling wrote: »

He had the knifes already in his hands before the dog was was sent ,
the rule never bring a knife to a gunfight should have applied here ,

APD have a horrendous record when it comes to killing and unjustified actions ,
Including pepper sprayed a ladies nether regions as a punishment,
Abusing supposed drug suspects including forcing one suspect through 8 internals without a doctor or medic present no drugs were ever found ,
Multiple supposed justified clean kills by police officers including a few so called suicide's in police custody

bassically, their a bunch of vermin

donvito99 · 31-03-2014 02:31PM

For I am the mayor of Albuquerque...

The police in the US are becoming militarised, fueling the paranonia that 'Bamas gonna take muh guns, and that he'll do it using these guys who'll roll up on the day in a decommissioned APV brought back from Afghan.

Why that policeman needed a rifle like that to deal with a compliant homeless man I'll never know...

Gatling · 31-03-2014 02:46PM

donvito99 wrote: »

For I am the mayor of Albuquerque...

The police in the US are becoming militarised, fueling the paranonia that 'Bamas gonna take muh guns, and that he'll do it using these guys who'll roll up on the day in a decommissioned APV brought back from Afghanistan

Already happening the department of homeland security have been giving police departments MRAP veichles 8 wheel bomb proof vehicles for the last 2 years ,
They have also stock piled millions of rounds of ammunition ,enough to fight a couple of world wars ,

ScumLord · 31-03-2014 02:56PM

MadsL wrote: »

Local news station that got maced is now embargoed and off air.

America seems to be on the edge of turning full on fascist. Its scary that the country that has the most powerful military in the world is currently at war with "terror" and scary things in general, wherever they may be! Typically the scariest things seem to pop up in poor countries. .

MadsL · 31-03-2014 03:03PM

seamus wrote: »

As a matter of interest, what the metric on which being "safer" is based?

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv11.pdf

I'm not denying that it's probably true in general, but state oppression appears to be a growing phenomenon in the US, from overbudgeted and overactive police forces right up to endemic widespread intrusion by federal bodies like the NSA.

You could bring in an "all offenders are shot on sight" law, and you'll see crime rates plummet. But would you say that people are "safer"? That's really my question. Are people in the US actually safer? And if they are is it coming at the expense of personal freedom?

I take your point, whilst crime rates are at a all time low since the 60s and I rarely lock my door these days, there is a societal cost when the cops are more lilkely to shoot an offender than the homeowner who catches him.

Gatling wrote: »

He had the knifes already in his hands before the dog was was sent ,
the rule never bring a knife to a gunfight should have applied here ,

APD have a horrendous record when it comes to killing and unjustified actions ,
Including pepper sprayed a ladies nether regions as a punishment,
Abusing supposed drug suspects including forcing one suspect through 8 internals without a doctor or medic present no drugs were ever found ,
Multiple supposed justified clean kills by police officers including a few so called suicide's in police custody

Protester brings AK rifle to protest again police brutality

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