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Manchester United Superthread 2014 Mod warning Post #1880 #2613

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,089 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Trilla wrote: »
    Man I love your one-liner posts!

    I bet you were a wizz at those competitions " In twenty words or yes" years ago that were all the go :)
    Im a poster of few words but those words would blow your mind.
    Hococop wrote: »
    not really, i want him gone but i don't want it turning into a witch hunt either, he seems like such a friendly guy but maybe thats his downfall

    I dont give a **** about him, because of him we are out of the top 4, worse PL season utd has ever had, breaking numerous unwanted records. I hope he gets dogs abuse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    Hococop wrote: »
    not really, i want him gone but i don't want it turning into a witch hunt either, he seems like such a friendly guy but maybe thats his downfall

    Who would want to take the job with such militant fans... And all that aggression. They want a Ferguson doppelgänger, but there is none. I do believe that even if Moyes is sacked driven out, another manager will get the same treatment. Moyes needs to be given a season with new players. In the the quarters of the CL, that is surely a massive plus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    MagicIRL wrote: »
    Gary, Phil, Nicky, Scholes and Giggsy have bought Salford FC.

    Seriously, can someone really tell me what the **** is a Salford?

    What is this actually about?


    An opportunity for me to throw my support behind a nobody and be a cool footballing hipster? O no their current fanbase would be the hipsters right?

    SEriously though, why is this any way relevant to anything. So many media outlets were putting out " MAssive MUFC exclusive tomorrow" and it turned out to be this.

    Can I safely assume this is some non league club or a youth club near Old Trafford or something?


    *OK googled it, have the details, best of luck to them *


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,060 ✭✭✭✭adox


    Mr.Micro wrote: »
    Who would want to take the job with such militant fans... And all that aggression.

    Lol.

    The fans have been anything but. In fact theyve been the opposite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,089 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    adox wrote: »
    Lol.

    The fans have been anything but. In fact theyve been the opposite.

    Yap you could say its helped to keep in the job unfortunately


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,408 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston




    He didn't spit at Zabaleta.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 497 ✭✭Ernest Oreo


    altho i think the whole plane flying over OT approach is a little pathetic, this sort of stuff is probably necessary to get Moyes out sooner rather than later
    so i'm actually coming round to the idea
    plenty abuse should be hurled at SAF and Bob as well - the end will justify the means here

    we dont want this lingering on any longer than it needs to
    before long the season will be over, players will be heading off the the WC, others on holidays etc
    I'd like the new gaffer to get approached now so that he can put plans in place for transfer targets. as someone once said, its only the badly run clubs that need the final 24hrs of the transfer window
    another indicators of our demise this season under Moyes and Woodward


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Soft Falling Rain


    Eight Ball wrote: »
    Looks like nothing to me tbh. He spits on the ground not the player :confused:

    He can spit anywhere he wants yet he decides to do it right beside a player who he just elbowed in the mush.

    It's truly idiotic if nothing else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,241 ✭✭✭Vic Vinegar


    Is the presser on Sky? i hope some journos have the balls to ask him some tough questions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,071 ✭✭✭user2011


    Presser, any link to video or txt of it would be appreciated.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 497 ✭✭Ernest Oreo


    He can spit anywhere he wants yet he decides to do it right beside a player who he just elbowed in the mush.

    It's truly idiotic if nothing else.

    he is a clown with very limited footballing ability

    £27m Mr Moyes :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    altho i think the whole plane flying over OT approach is a little pathetic, this sort of stuff is probably necessary to get Moyes out sooner rather than later
    so i'm actually coming round to the idea
    plenty abuse should be hurled at SAF and Bob as well - the end will justify the means here

    we dont want this lingering on any longer than it needs to
    before long the season will be over, players will be heading off the the WC, others on holidays etc
    I'd like the new gaffer to get approached now so that he can put plans in place for transfer targets. as someone once said, its only the badly run clubs that need the final 24hrs of the transfer window
    another indicators of our demise this season under Moyes and Woodward
    I think it actually might harden support for Moyes in some quarters, it will not be a nice thing to do to him on a human level... this match will be broadcast across the globe... trying to embarrass him like that is despicable if you ask me.


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Bannerman7 wrote: »
    "The 'Chosen One' banner should not have stayed longer than the Chelsea game at the start of the season. We now have a ridiculous situation where stewards are guarding it."

    That's mental.

    Who put it up? and who is telling the stewarts to guard it? Why is it such a big problem to take it down?

    If I was Moyes, I wouldn't want it up tbh, not until I've actually achieved something worthwhile. His first game maybe, it'd be a nice touch.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Mr.Micro wrote: »
    Who would want to take the job with such militant fans... And all that aggression. They want a Ferguson doppelgänger, but there is none. I do believe that even if Moyes is sacked driven out, another manager will get the same treatment. Moyes needs to be given a season with new players. In the the quarters of the CL, that is surely a massive plus

    It's a plus...till you realise he got the easiest run in possible. Other teams would have loved our easy run till now.

    Also, you realise there is a middle ground between Fergies success and Moyes failure? Pretty much everyone at the start of the season lowered standards to top 4 and have lowered time and again. Only so often we can lower expectations before we say enough is enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 497 ✭✭Ernest Oreo


    taking it down now is just embarrassing for all parties
    it'll go quietly during the off-season, along with Moyes himself
    he can use it as wallpaper in one of his holiday homes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Gave a link here recently for a text feed for press conference, cant find the link now :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,930 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    That's mental.

    Who put it up? and who is telling the stewarts to guard it? Why is it such a big problem to take it down?

    If I was Moyes, I wouldn't want it up tbh, not until I've actually achieved something worthwhile. His first game maybe, it'd be a nice touch.

    Was put up by Stretford End Flags.

    It is a big deal to take it down because it is the main signifier of support for Moyes - if you take it down now it symbolises the dissatisfaction of (some/most/whoknows) the fans.

    The club are telling the stewards to protect it partly for the reasons aboce, and I would assume for health/safety/security reasons. If an angry mod of United fans try to take it down, there will be an angry mob of United fans looking to stop them - and I would assume no one actually wants to see a fight break out between fans, especially in that location.

    SEF are refusing to take it down due to the fact it would be seen as a sign of protest - which is fair enough imo. We can argue whether it should or should not have gone up in the first place, but it is up - and it is probably unfair to demand SEF become the public face of the protest if they don't want to be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭Elro


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    That's mental.

    Who put it up? and who is telling the stewarts to guard it? Why is it such a big problem to take it down?

    If I was Moyes, I wouldn't want it up tbh, not until I've actually achieved something worthwhile. His first game maybe, it'd be a nice touch.

    This is from the BBC
    Simple logistics mean the banner will be there when Pep Guardiola brings his newly crowned Bundesliga champions to Old Trafford. The top and bottom of it is that it is tethered to the Stretford End. Realistically, only United themselves can organise its removal once SEF asks for it to be done.

    So it could be that the stewards are just there to stop people putting themselves in danger trying to take it down themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,241 ✭✭✭Vic Vinegar


    14 defeats so far this season, a figure that could rise to almost 20 come the end of the season, in no way is that acceptable for the League Champions of the previous season.

    It's completely shambolic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,209 ✭✭✭KH25


    irishfeen wrote: »
    I think it actually might harden support for Moyes in some quarters, it will not be a nice thing to do to him on a human level... this match will be broadcast across the globe... trying to embarrass him like that is despicable if you ask me.

    Exactly. Nail on the head. It just comes across as a little too personal.

    I think he needs to go, but I still want to see him turn it around and bring success. He comes across as a nice person and I would like to see him do well. I have nothing against him on a personal level and as a fan I don't think he has done anything (results and performances aside) to offend me enough to dislike the man. This is not like AVB at Spurs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Anyone with text links for feeds for presser, cant find anything on google :(

    Cant watch video


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,192 ✭✭✭✭Kerrydude1981


    More from Moyes: “I’m more driven than ever to succeed. I want the team to turn around and I want to change the position we’re in.”

    https://twitter.com/ManUtd


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Moyes on the planned plane protest: "I heard about that. People are entitled to do that. Everywhere I go I get great support. I'm more driven."

    On ze plane


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,925 ✭✭✭Agueroooo


    More from Moyes: “I’m more driven than ever to succeed. I want the team to turn around and I want to change the position we’re in.”

    https://twitter.com/ManUtd

    No shít Sherlock :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    You don't go a whole season without showing something positive, worse managers have shown some positive signs with lesser players than we've got.

    If Moyes did something I'd jump right on it and get behind him but he hasn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭spiralism


    TheDoc wrote: »
    I get the vibe you think sections will be vocal in their support for Moyes "just" to spite this silly protest.

    But to be fair, and I frequent a number of United fan forums, while the over riding majority HERE might be Moyes out, it's not the case everywhere.

    I appreciate that sometimes the "over riding" viewpoint can be skewered when the constant posting trend is a certain type. But there is PLENTY of genuine support for Moyes out there. And there is plenty of differing views.

    I'd like to think that vocal support for Moyes is one formed of intelligent and opinion, rather then just " going against the grain".

    I have slipped with one foot into the Moyes Out pool, and the water is pretty cold. A part of me feels I've seen enough to form enough basis that things can't get better and Moyes isn't up to the level required.

    However another part of me feels that we could slip into that mindset of Chelsea,City and Spurs, and our expectations mean we hire and fire a manager every other season, all trying to bring back the glory days, instead of admitting to ourselves we need to take a big ****ing breathe after Ferguson, stand back, and reshape things.

    That results in MASSIVE expenditure as a new manager wants his own players, purchases we've made become redundant, and then the fanbase become fractured as some felt X manager was good and right, where some feels manager Y is better and all that craic.

    Like I said, Klopp offered to me now, yeah I'll take it. If he's not, hold onto Moyes until Xmas next season, if we are way off the mark again, then it's time for a change.

    Like holy **** this season finishes, Moyes could REALLY sort his **** out, start being a bit ruthless and all of a puddin we have a newlook side fighting for a title next season.

    I think the main issue this season is a somewhat disconnect from fans and the managers views. It's entirely possible he plans to AXE a ****load of the squad, but obviously he can't say that mid season. The only thing I can see as why the board are sticking by him, is because early on in the campaign, he made his issues and problems visible to the board, and plans on a serious rebuilding.

    I can't help but feel there has been some GOOD work done behind the scenes in regards to scouting and player acquisition, and maybe we should provide him some time after the summer to see what he is doing, where he is going and how it pans out. When there is literally no more excuses.

    Seriously though, what gives you any optimism at all? All indications are that things are getting worse and we've had about 25 false dawns by now. Imo all hope is long gone with this idiot ruining the club, the way things have deteriorated so dramatically makes me think that not one single thing he has done since taking over has had a positive effect. What will keeping him bring to the table on the basis of what we've seen this year? (and coupled with his managerial career to date). To say he could turn it around and have us playing well next season, what's the basis? Things have been getting worse, there's a clear trend downhill now and saying he could magically turn it around, have us playing good attacking football next season and right back in contention flies directly in the face of the reality we're seeing this year.
    Aodhagan wrote: »
    Does it get any worse than losing 3-0 at home to both of your biggest rivals in the space of 10 days?

    Give him till next season and he'll give it a lash. It won't be consecutive 3-0s at home to City and Liverpool, more likely consecutive 3-0s at home to Villa and Newcastle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Either the plane was flown into the press desk, or the livefeed I was reading has crashed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 792 ✭✭✭KombuchaMshroom


    That press conference really worries me. It really seems like we could be stuck with man for a long while.

    I don't in anyway agree with this plane plan for tomorrow, but you can see why these people feel the need to do it. It needs to be shown that a lot of the fans aren't happy, because some of the comments coming from Moyes and the club make it seem like everyone is happy with the current situation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 792 ✭✭✭KombuchaMshroom


    You don't go a whole season without showing something positive, worse managers have shown some positive signs with lesser players than we've got.

    If Moyes did something I'd jump right on it and get behind him but he hasn't.

    The worst part is we have only got worse as the season has gone on. We had 5 losses in the first half of the season, but 8 since the turn of the year. Just after seeing the Old Trafford record on ssn there and it makes for horrible reading. Just 21 points at home, a zero goal difference, as many matches lost as won, simply pathetic!


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