Do you find "do-gooders" or overly "right on" people annoying?

TwoShedsJackson · 28-03-2014 02:55PM

People of all outlooks who lump others who think differently to them into ill-defined groups ('brigades' even, if you will) tend to be twats.

K-9 · 28-03-2014 02:58PM

e_e wrote: »

YouTube is maybe the worst place online I've seen for reasonable discourse, and I've vowed to stop reading the comments altogether.

"In the land of the blind the one eyed main is king." as the saying goes.

Yep, but I was on more about posting a youtube video as fact or evidence, see a lot of it these days.

Muise... · 28-03-2014 03:00PM

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

People of all outlooks who lump others who think differently to them into ill-defined groups ('brigades' even, if you will) tend to be twats.

I see what you did there.

kunst nugget · 28-03-2014 03:12PM

I once called 999 to get the liberal brigade out to the house because somebody was telling racist jokes at my party. They told me to fúck off. That's political correctness gone mad.

Flippyfloppy · 28-03-2014 03:12PM

I find people seem wayyyy more PC, or the opposite of PC even, on Facebook. Am I the only one with some friends on FB who have been hidden because they seem to have gone mental with the stupid stuff/pictures they post, abuse they give people etc.

Then you meet them in real life and expect a negative, pessimistic, lets not forget moany & horrible person. But they just end up being that happy, upbeat, person you once knew and liked and you realise they must be keyboard warriors, because they project a totally different & one dimensionally (horrible) persona online!!

TINA1984 · 28-03-2014 03:13PM

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

2003- Protested against the war in Iraq, because it was cool. They might like to forget it but every major left leaning paper in the UK repeated the WMD claims as unchallenged fact in the run up.

Completely incorrect, both the Guardian & Daily Mirror to name but 2 were sceptical of the WMD claims in the run up to the 2003 Iraq war.

kunst nugget · 28-03-2014 03:15PM

Flippyfloppy wrote: »

I find people seem wayyyy more PC, or the opposite of PC even, on Facebook. Am I the only one with some friends on FB who have been hidden because they seem to have gone mental with the stupid stuff/pictures they post, abuse they give people etc.

Then you meet them in real life and expect a negative, pessimistic, lets not forget moany & horrible person. But they just end up being that happy, upbeat, person you once knew and liked and you realise they must be keyboard warriors, because they project a totally different & one dimensionally (horrible) persona online!!

Forget people with causes on facebook, the dog and cat people are the worst with their shítty memes and horror stories about arsehole cats going hungry. Pet loving gone mad.

Santa Cruz · 28-03-2014 03:18PM

Foxhound38 wrote: »

I'm friends with an awful lot of what you might call "social justice warriors" from back in my college days. These people would be politically obsessed, generally leftish feminist types who live on a soapbox most of the time. The type that would call someone out for using the word "c*nt" on their facebook status in a derogatory manner because one must not refer to a part of the female anatomy in a negative sense because it's a microaggession or something. The type that tend to be out protesting a lot, and live their lives mostly offended by what they see around them. The type that can't seem to type a status or a tweet about anything without prefacing it with "Trigger Warning: XYZ". Politically correct to a tee, and annoyed that the world isn't as politically correct as they are.

The funny thing is, I genuinely get and accept that they are trying to make the world a better place in their own way. I might even agree with the overall thrust or message they are trying to get out. But by jaysus sometimes I find myself rolling my eyes at them!

If you make the mistake of questioning their zeal over a specific issue or trying to engage with them about this stuff, you get met with at best a passive-aggressive statement such as "it's not my job to educate you" or at worst an outright accusation that you need to "check your privilege" - and then that tends to be that, so I've sort of stopped bothering trying to engage with them on these issues. This article sort of sums up the attitude I'm talking about.

Anyone else find do-gooders on a soapbox annoying despite basically agreeing with them on many issues?

I leave other activists phone numbers on messages for them asking them to contact urgently

Muise... · 28-03-2014 03:19PM

e_e wrote: »

YouTube is maybe the worst place online I've seen for reasonable discourse, and I've vowed to stop reading the comments altogether.

"In the land of the blind the one eyed main is king." as the saying goes.

Read them in the voice of Adam Buxton:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr31WIu8Ifo

Santa Cruz · 28-03-2014 03:19PM

e_e wrote: »

YouTube is maybe the worst place online I've seen for reasonable discourse, and I've vowed to stop reading the comments altogether.

"In the land of the blind the one eyed main is king." as the saying goes.

"one eyed main"?? Please clarify

Turtyturd · 28-03-2014 03:20PM

Have no issue with people like that if they genuinely feel strongly about the issues. What's more annoying are the Facebook activists.

topper75 · 28-03-2014 03:21PM

Don't go to Galway* OP - it's like a vipers' nest.

*Born and bred Galwegians, if you can find them, are fine.

Muise... · 28-03-2014 03:27PM

kunst nugget wrote: »

Forget people with causes on facebook, the dog and cat people are the worst with their shítty memes and horror stories about arsehole cats going hungry. Pet loving gone mad.

Yeah, and people sharing stock images with slogans about depression and asking you to share them if you care. Mental illness gone mad.

I Heart Internet · 28-03-2014 03:31PM

Muise... wrote: »

Yeah, and people sharing stock images with slogans about depression and asking you to share them if you care. Mental illness gone mad.

Bored housewives do this a lot I find.

Ray Palmer · 28-03-2014 03:56PM

Foxhound38 wrote: »

This article sort of sums up the attitude I'm talking about.

Anyone else find do-gooders on a soapbox annoying despite basically agreeing with them on many issues?

In fairness she isn't on a soap box she is just plain wrong and insulting. She is clearly seeing herself as a victim while accusing people in the same manner men are blamed for doing to woman.

why do I feel like I’m supposed to spend so damn much of my time carefully considering how what I say and do will be taken by men?

Last time I checked everybody has to consider everybody else when talking. Welcome to the rest of the world lady you at least grew up being told people were equal, think how difficult it is to understand and be conscious that what you say when you were raised in a different generation and actions that were once considered gentlemanly are now sexist. Mean while your own peers expect you to continue in this manner even the woman.

Anyway outspoken people can be fine it is shouty people who try to force you to change your mind that are the problem. The absolute worst are the ones that never considered the issue until it effected them and then go on about how they thought like you until it effected them and I should therefore listen to them and change my mind.
I had a friend who went on about how parents should pay for their children and the state should not give them any money. She had a child and then it was all about how the government should provide free childcare etc... How I didn't understand because it didn't effect me and because she "thought like you" but now knows better. When the reality was I said the sate should ensure a minimum standard for children which she thought was ridiculous at the time. Two extreme views from the same person and on a soap box both times.
I have had people stop me eating or drinking something to tell me how horrible the company is and why I should not eat/drink their products. Warned one of them after the 3rd time they gave me this speech if the said it to me again I would force feed to them. He did it to me the next day and I flipped and did as I said. He then stopped doing it to people, I had seen him do this to random strangers so I actually felt like I did him a favour because somebody would eventually have seriously hurt him.

WilyCoyote · 28-03-2014 04:28PM

The PC brigade! Jesus H Christ! I find them utterly boring and so far up their own butts that they almost emerge through their own thoraces. These unhappy fuckers would like us all to join their collective rant until it becomes universal ........... then, the second thoughts/mature recollection/reflection etc kicks in and it goes from two legs good, four legs better to four legs good, two legs better.
But I think the hairy armpit/unwashed bit is a bit unjust. As citizens of democracies we are all entitled to either practice hygiene or not.

KOTSC · 28-03-2014 04:31PM

I remember one time/one afternoon back around 2006 roughly walking through town I passed a stall where there was a few campaigners asking people to sign a petition against a deportation of Illegal immigrants, I asked them what the background was if the immigrants were here legally or illegally, once i heard illegally i told them i wouldn,t sign their petition as i believe immigration laws/rules have to be upheld and enforced. one of them then proceeded to make an open borders argument how people should be free to travel anywhere and everywhere they want with no restrictions and how border controls are wrong' I replied to the open borders comment by saying if we allow people to travel with no restrictions and no border controls if they thought about how that leave international drug gangs/ sex traffickers/sex offenders travel around undetected' when i put that point to them they couldn,t really answer or debate that point of view all they could do was give a kneejerk reaction as to how i was being racist, the problem is with a lot of these leftist do godder types is they often don,t think about things from a realistic point of view; dare to disagree with open borders and they might label you racist and they often wonder why people wouldn,t vote for their kind at most elections.

jimgoose · 28-03-2014 04:33PM

WilyCoyote wrote: »

...As citizens of democracies we are all entitled to either practice hygiene or not.

I say set aside a big warehouse where they can all practice personal hygiene, and when they get proficient at it they can once again come within twenty feet of me. :cool:

RayM · 28-03-2014 04:50PM

I find that those who rail against perceived 'political correctness' and 'do-gooders' are generally pretty tedious. Whatever the topic, they'll always do their best to display their oh-so-un-PC credentials by expressing the most obnoxious opinion possible.

WilyCoyote · 28-03-2014 05:01PM

Incidentally, does anyone know a happy feminist? You know ........ one who writes positive things. And doesn't have a permanently vertically clefted brow. To me, Camille Paglia is one such. Not drawn to nihilism or misandry she has encountered the wrath of the we hate everything unless it's about wimmin brigade. Which must mean that she is mostly normal. Well, as normal as the rest of us.

WilyCoyote · 28-03-2014 05:02PM

RayM wrote: »

I find that those who rail against perceived 'political correctness' and 'do-gooders' are generally pretty tedious. Whatever the topic, they'll always do their best to display their oh-so-un-PC credentials by expressing the most obnoxious opinion possible.

A little elaboration might help here

jimgoose · 28-03-2014 05:05PM

WilyCoyote wrote: »

A little elaboration might help here

He can't understand how it is physically possible for anyone to disagree with him, so therefore anyone who does is either an obnoxious troublemaker or a mental defective!

K-9 · 28-03-2014 05:07PM

WilyCoyote wrote: »

Incidentally, does anyone know a happy feminist? You know ........ one who writes positive things. And doesn't have a permanently vertically clefted brow. To me, Camille Paglia is one such. Not drawn to nihilism or misandry she has encountered the wrath of the we hate everything unless it's about wimmin brigade. Which must mean that she is mostly normal. Well, as normal as the rest of us.

Yep, there's a bit of a competition to see who can get in the most hilarious and original crustie references and comments about personal hygiene.

endacl · 28-03-2014 05:11PM

Khomeini wrote: »

It is wonderful to see citizens embrace the collectivist spirit. Assisting your fellow man is something that should be commended.

Change of heart since the revolution, dude? Ayatollah days behind you now?

Muise... · 28-03-2014 05:14PM

WilyCoyote wrote: »

Incidentally, does anyone know a happy feminist? You know ........ one who writes positive things. And doesn't have a permanently vertically clefted brow. To me, Camille Paglia is one such. Not drawn to nihilism or misandry she has encountered the wrath of the we hate everything unless it's about wimmin brigade. Which must mean that she is mostly normal. Well, as normal as the rest of us.

I'm a happy feminist. Nice to meet you.

WilyCoyote · 28-03-2014 05:18PM

Muise... wrote: »

I'm a happy feminist. Nice to meet you.

Muise Camille! Though you were in Princeton today.

Muise... · 28-03-2014 05:20PM

WilyCoyote wrote: »

Muise Camille! Though you were in Princeton today.

That's Princesston you chauvinist pig!

RayM · 28-03-2014 05:23PM

WilyCoyote wrote: »

A little elaboration might help here

I find that overtly right-wing people are usually idiots, being obnoxious for the hell of it. Don't get me wrong though - they're not all idiots. I mean, some of them are just cunts.

And while we're on the topic of feminists not being happy. I've always found that self-consciously anti-PC types are rarely full of the joys of spring themselves. Utterly humourless and always giving out about something... usually the fact that the imaginary PC brigade prevents them from expressing the kind of opinions that they express with monotonous regularity.

Muise... · 28-03-2014 05:30PM

RayM wrote: »

I find that overtly right-wing people are usually idiots, being obnoxious for the hell of it. Don't get me wrong though - they're not all idiots. I mean, some of them are just cunts.

And while we're on the topic of feminists not being happy. I've always found that self-consciously anti-PC types are rarely full of the joys of spring themselves. Utterly humourless and always giving out about something... usually the fact that the imaginary PC brigade prevents them from expressing the kind of opinions that they express with monotonous regularity.

I lean to the left, but I think the subject of the thread is not the province of left nor right; annoyance comes from any eejit who hangs on to an opinion for dear life, even in the face of reason.

WilyCoyote · 28-03-2014 05:40PM

There are lots of PC artists in both Right Wing and Left Wing camps. All equally do'H!

Do you find "do-gooders" or overly "right on" people annoying?

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