Do you find "do-gooders" or overly "right on" people annoying?

Foxhound38

I'm friends with an awful lot of what you might call "social justice warriors" from back in my college days. These people would be politically obsessed, generally leftish feminist types who live on a soapbox most of the time. The type that would call someone out for using the word "c*nt" on their facebook status in a derogatory manner because one must not refer to a part of the female anatomy in a negative sense because it's a microaggession or something. The type that tend to be out protesting a lot, and live their lives mostly offended by what they see around them. The type that can't seem to type a status or a tweet about anything without prefacing it with "Trigger Warning: XYZ". Politically correct to a tee, and annoyed that the world isn't as politically correct as they are.

The funny thing is, I genuinely get and accept that they are trying to make the world a better place in their own way. I might even agree with the overall thrust or message they are trying to get out. But by jaysus sometimes I find myself rolling my eyes at them!

If you make the mistake of questioning their zeal over a specific issue or trying to engage with them about this stuff, you get met with at best a passive-aggressive statement such as "it's not my job to educate you" or at worst an outright accusation that you need to "check your privilege" - and then that tends to be that, so I've sort of stopped bothering trying to engage with them on these issues. This article sort of sums up the attitude I'm talking about.

Anyone else find do-gooders on a soapbox annoying despite basically agreeing with them on many issues?

jimgoose

I find their poverty, hairy armpits, loud whining and utter mallet-headed refusal to look facts in the face offensive. But, fcuk 'em - you can't care about every damn thing.

gramar

I ignore them. I've even walked away while they're in full flow. Let your pent up frustrations make you spontaneously self-combust all you want.
Just don't get any on me.

ezekel

They are fooking annoying and i don't agree with everything they say, kill them all

Khomeini

It is wonderful to see citizens embrace the collectivist spirit. Assisting your fellow man is something that should be commended.

macplato

I find people like that not only annoying, but quite toxic actually.

Why are you friends with those people? How is it even possible to be friends with them? They are so focused on their idealistic vision of the world, they are unable to see reality. It's all driven by insecurity, really, hardly an attractive quality in a friend.

Birneybau

I think they do a great job and their self-promotion through supporting trendy issues is in no way self serving...at all.

Caliden

Uh oh anti feminism thread.

http://i.imgur.com/TtRut.gif

Foxhound38

macplato wrote: »

I find people like that not only annoying, but quite toxic actually.

Why are you friends with those people? How is it even possible to be friends with them? They are so focused on their idealistic vision of the world, they are unable to see reality. It's all driven by insecurity, really, hardly an attractive quality in a friend.

Because when they're not on a soapbox they're genuinely fun people to be around?

It's only when they're soapboxing it, or getting aggressive with others, or being unwilling to consider another viewpoint that I find them insufferable.

Sunglasses Ron

Foxhound38 wrote: »

The type that tend to be out protesting a lot, and live their lives mostly offended by what they see around them.

2014- gay marriage and Panti Luther King is their buzz

2013- Edward Snowden, Bradley Manning are their heroes. The NSA and Obama are the root of all evil.

2012- They supported Occupy. The movement against nothing in particular.

2012- Let's raise FB awareness about Kony!!!!!!! KONY!!!!! KONY2012!!!!

2008- Go Obama go! The hero of the world* (see 2013 for comparison)

2003- Protested against the war in Iraq, because it was cool. They might like to forget it but every major left leaning paper in the UK repeated the WMD claims as unchallenged fact in the run up.

2000- Rocking the oul charity bracelets to raise "awareness", whatever that means.

Throughout the last 14 years- goes to any legalise cannabis/ abortion march you can find.


I swear if kicking puppys to death became fashionable next year the same folks would be on it.

AnonoBoy

Surely it's possible to save the planet and be against political corruption while remaining washed and not shouting abuse into a cop's face?

Or is it?

shruikan2553

People who say check your privilege deserve a kick. Also find these types tend to expect those with more money than themselves to give it up while they are fine as they are.

Birneybau

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Surely it's possible to save the planet and be against political corruption while remaining washed and not shouting abuse into a cop's face?

Or is it?

Washing wastes water (classic alliteration there).

I think that the occupy movement was the best thing to ever happen to society at large. For the first time most of the annoying crusties were in camps where they could easily have been wiped out. Sadly the lack if any intelligent ideas amongst those involved meant that the camps quickly disbanded and the crusties returned to sitting in pubs and talking nonsense over a pint that lasts hours.

Adamantium

Foxhound38 wrote: »

I'm friends with an awful lot of what you might call "social justice warriors" from back in my college days. These people would be politically obsessed, generally leftish feminist types who live on a soapbox most of the time. The type that would call someone out for using the word "c*nt" on their facebook status in a derogatory manner because one must not refer to a part of the female anatomy in a negative sense because it's a microaggession or something. The type that tend to be out protesting a lot, and live their lives mostly offended by what they see around them. The type that can't seem to type a status or a tweet about anything without prefacing it with "Trigger Warning: XYZ". Politically correct to a tee, and annoyed that the world isn't as politically correct as they are.

The funny thing is, I genuinely get and accept that they are trying to make the world a better place in their own way. I might even agree with the overall thrust or message they are trying to get out. But by jaysus sometimes I find myself rolling my eyes at them!

If you make the mistake of questioning their zeal over a specific issue or trying to engage with them about this stuff, you get met with at best a passive-aggressive statement such as "it's not my job to educate you" or at worst an outright accusation that you need to "check your privilege" - and then that tends to be that, so I've sort of stopped bothering trying to engage with them on these issues. This article sort of sums up the attitude I'm talking about.

Anyone else find do-gooders on a soapbox annoying despite basically agreeing with them on many issues?

Its not so bad here, the USA is septic with this from some of my facebook friends and feeds there.

Also the kind of people who are political activists in college for young parties. What kind of hard graft, real life experiences, transformative hardships could you possibly have at 17,18,19 to think you can run for public office?

Holy HELL the brain isn't even fully developed until your 25.

Links234

As someone who's generally accused of being a right-on politically correct so and so many times, I kinda know what you mean

There's some folks who seems to jump on the 'social justice' bandwagon just as an excuse to abuse people, and I see far too many tumblr activists who just lump in with crap like "Kill yourself, sh*tlord!" because it seems to be easier to get away with acting like a troll and an asshole if you hide behind a good cause.

20Cent

I find people without opinions or just interested in themselves very boring.

Foxhound38

Caliden wrote: »

Uh oh anti feminism thread.

http://i.imgur.com/TtRut.gif

No, not really the intent of the thread. My beef isn't with feminism - although it is with certain people who espouse it, and others who espouse other things too.

I just used the article as an example of an attitude I'm trying to illustrate.

e_e

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Anyone else find do-gooders on a soapbox annoying despite basically agreeing with them on many issues?

Not really, and I really don't get this anti-pc brigade that constantly pretend like they are on eggshells with what they want/need to say half of the time (that either makes them outright bigoted or they just have terrible vocabulary). I've never been called out on my language (not since I was a kid at least) and always try to be fluent and specific in what I want to say. I've neither incurred the wrath of "do-gooders" or told anyone IRL how to speak either.

HalloweenJack

Hand on my heart, I've never met anyone as extremely PC as outlined in the OP. Anytime I've heard of them, it's always second-hand, so much so that I have my doubts that they genuinely exist.

Let them at it, if that's what they want to do. They're no better or worse than right-wing extremists who use "reality" as an excuse for their prejudices.

MS.ing

Foxhound38 wrote: »

I'm friends with an awful lot of what you might call "social justice warriors" from back in my college days. These people would be politically obsessed, generally leftish feminist types who live on a soapbox most of the time. The type that would call someone out for using the word "c*nt" on their facebook status in a derogatory manner because one must not refer to a part of the female anatomy in a negative sense because it's a microaggession or something. The type that tend to be out protesting a lot, and live their lives mostly offended by what they see around them. The type that can't seem to type a status or a tweet about anything without prefacing it with "Trigger Warning: XYZ". Politically correct to a tee, and annoyed that the world isn't as politically correct as they are.

The funny thing is, I genuinely get and accept that they are trying to make the world a better place in their own way. I might even agree with the overall thrust or message they are trying to get out. But by jaysus sometimes I find myself rolling my eyes at them!

If you make the mistake of questioning their zeal over a specific issue or trying to engage with them about this stuff, you get met with at best a passive-aggressive statement such as "it's not my job to educate you" or at worst an outright accusation that you need to "check your privilege" - and then that tends to be that, so I've sort of stopped bothering trying to engage with them on these issues. This article sort of sums up the attitude I'm talking about.

Anyone else find do-gooders on a soapbox annoying despite basically agreeing with them on many issues?

then why are you still friends

Foxhound38

Links234 wrote: »

As someone who's generally accused of being a right-on politically correct so and so many times, I kinda know what you mean

There's some folks who seems to jump on the 'social justice' bandwagon just as an excuse to abuse people, and I see far too many tumblr activists who just lump in with crap like "Kill yourself, sh*tlord!" because it seems to be easier to get away with acting like a troll and an asshole if you hide behind a good cause.

This is what I'm talking about

I actually don't have a problem with activism. It's intolerence of other people's viewspoint under the guise of activism I have a problem with

SEPT 23 1989

Too much time of their hands

I Heart Internet

Links234 wrote: »

As someone who's generally accused of being a right-on politically correct so and so many times, I kinda know what you mean

There's some folks who seems to jump on the 'social justice' bandwagon just as an excuse to abuse people, and I see far too many tumblr activists who just lump in with crap like "Kill yourself, sh*tlord!" because it seems to be easier to get away with acting like a troll and an asshole if you hide behind a good cause.

Heard a texter complain on a radio show (the Global Village on Newstalk....their heart is basically in the right place, but they don't half talk some rubbish) that it was so hard being the only one in her family/circle of friends with an interest in social justice, everyone else wasn't interested, but she would soldier on regardless.

Nearly crashed the car guffawwwing. How much in love with yourself do you have to be think that you're the only one you know interested in helping people!!

Foxhound38

I Heart Internet wrote: »

Heard a texter complain on a radio show (the Global Village on Newstalk....heart is basically in the right place, but they don't half talk some rubbish) that it was so hard being the only one in her family/circle of friends with an interest in social justice, everyone else wasn't interested, but she would soldier on regardless.

Nearly crashed the car guffawwwing. How much in love with yourself do you have to be thin that you're the only one you know interested in helping people!!

Again, you've kind of hit the nail on the head in terms of the attitude I'm talking about here. Heart in the right place, by acted on in such a way that can only bring eye-rolling and annoyance.

K-9

Foxhound38 wrote: »

"it's not my job to educate indoctrate you"

That's what I think of when I read that.

The other spectrum is the "the silent majority" which means the voices in my head tell me I'm right.

Muise...

Foxhound38 wrote: »

This is what I'm talking about

I actually don't have a problem with activism. It's intolerence of other people's viewspoint under the guise of activism I have a problem with

Ah Righteousness. It's the opiate of the Marxists.

There are many viewpoints I do not tolerate - anti-scientific bias for example - but my intolerance does not mean engaging in an argument with a hornets nest. I just stay away until the furies move on to the next outrage as seen through the prism of their vanity.

K-9

Argument by you tube seems to be the main debating tactic.

Muise...

Real Talk wrote: »

They also love waving the Palestinian flag even though Islamic fundamentalists hate women and hang gays. I can only presume the hypocrisy is lost on these simpletons.

Have you ever seen a Venn Diagram?

e_e

K-9 wrote: »

Argument by you tube seems to be the main debating tactic.

YouTube is maybe the worst place online I've seen for reasonable discourse, and I've vowed to stop reading the comments altogether.

"In the land of the blind the one eyed main is king." as the saying goes.

anncoates

People with a surfeit of right-on can be amusing at times but gimme 10 of them over any one of the whining, selfish ball bags you get on here day-in, day-out about their pet Daily Mail targets.