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Bad interview, terrible managerial manners

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,887 ✭✭✭dmc17


    bear1 wrote: »
    They have many brands, most famous ones would be.......

    Does it start with P and end with G


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    bunch of facists , I say petrol bomb the place


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,971 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    dmc17 wrote: »
    Does it start with P and end with G

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,971 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    Piliger wrote: »
    If you are that sensitive and precious I would expect that the test did it's job. You need to get to grips with facing up to reality when you meet it. You failed. Why on earth does that need to be kept a secret ? It's not medical information for goodness sakes.

    Have you read what I've posted?
    I'm not complaining about the test, I already admitted that I had failed and that I was annoyed at myself about it.
    I haven't kept it a secret, I merely didn't want to name the company without approval as I've said many times.
    Please tell me how I am being sensitive and precious? I was embarrassed, if you wouldn't be then fair play to you.
    Maybe you should apply to that company, sounds like you'd fit right in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Piliger wrote: »
    If you are that sensitive and precious I would expect that the test did it's job. You need to get to grips with facing up to reality when you meet it. You failed. Why on earth does that need to be kept a secret ? It's not medical information for goodness sakes.

    Facing reality and someone trying to make a cnut out of you are two very different things.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    bear1 wrote: »
    They have many brands, most famous ones would be Duracell, Braun...

    Trust me, wasn't Duracell.

    Did it start with S?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭gugleguy


    We're posting in AH. I think we've all failed.
    The AH class in other words. So much for a classless society online.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    a poor way to treat you OP, utterly classless to do that to you, as has been said you are better off not joining a company that treats peoples dignity with such contempt


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    No naming and shaming, don't ask!

    Mod.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    I never hear anything good about An Gugail these days


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 496 ✭✭bette


    Disposable nappies are probably the worst pollution on the planet!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    It's already been revealed by saying which brands they manufacture...

    OP, I wouldn't go trying next year given that you've just named them on the internet. They could see it, if you had followed the smart move and emailed HR you might get a chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,971 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    It's already been revealed by saying which brands they manufacture...

    OP, I wouldn't go trying next year given that you've just named them on the internet. They could see it, if you had followed the smart move and emailed HR you might get a chance.

    I won't anyway, I'll give my job another chance and try and get higher.
    I was very careful not naming the company, but I see your point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,887 ✭✭✭dmc17


    bear1 wrote: »
    I won't anyway, I'll give my job another chance and try and get higher.
    I was very careful not naming the company, but I see your point.

    You can edit your post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,971 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    dmc17 wrote: »
    You can edit your post

    Cheers, done it now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭El Siglo


    I remember going for a part-time job interview with a large budget chain supermarket when I was about sixteen. Brought into the canteen by the store manager, place was spartan (concrete walls, table, two chairs, and a fridge). Proceeded to ask me the usual guff questions when the lights went out, followed by the interviewer waving his arms around the place and asking me to help out until the lights came back on.

    So glad I didn't get that job. :pac:

    Chin up OP, better off not working for a crowd like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    We're posting in AH. I think we've all failed.

    I was hoping there would be some revenge advice being sought. AH + revenge advice = things to do with poop. Or blasting with....

    Anyway OP I think you'll know to practice the hell out of those mensa tests next time.. That person was an idiot with no common courtesy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,971 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    Armelodie wrote: »
    I was hoping there would be some revenge advice being sought. AH + revenge advice = things to do with poop. Or blasting with....

    Anyway OP I think you'll know to practice the hell out of those mensa tests next time.. That person was an idiot with no common courtesy.

    Any revenge tips are greatly appreciated :)
    So far I have burn the company down.
    Yeah I will have to practice more, I was doing great at them as well until the panic set in :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Facing reality and someone trying to make a cnut out of you are two very different things.


    Best strategy is to make them look like a cnut first then! That'll learn 'em :D

    Ahh no, seriously OP, that's fairly standard practice nowadays, hell I remember going through the same process myself numerous times, and that's about ten years ago now. I too got the same treatment you did, but I didn't take it personally.

    It's embarrassing and of course humiliating when you get turned down for any job, but I've heard of more stringent practices in interview processes, and far more unprofessional conduct towards unsuccessful candidates.

    I don't think they were purposely trying to be cnuts in all fairness, perhaps that was their idea of professional courtesy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭King of Kings


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    Best strategy is to make them look like a cnut first then! That'll learn 'em :D

    Ahh no, seriously OP, that's fairly standard practice nowadays, hell I remember going through the same process myself numerous times, and that's about ten years ago now. I too got the same treatment you did, but I didn't take it personally.

    It's embarrassing and of course humiliating when you get turned down for any job, but I've heard of more stringent practices in interview processes, and far more unprofessional conduct towards unsuccessful candidates.

    I don't think they were purposely trying to be cnuts in all fairness, perhaps that was their idea of professional courtesy.

    dunno about that.
    I've have some knobs interview me but I've never had that public deminision to the humilation.
    I did a group test for an internal job before - but was informed by email of my failure not on front of the others.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 817 ✭✭✭Ann Landers


    Bambi wrote: »
    HRbots, they do as programmed

    Is it terrible that I hate HR professionals? I mean, they're just doing their job, and are not all bad but still... :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 817 ✭✭✭Ann Landers


    bear1 wrote: »
    I don't know if I can name the company, if the mods give me the OK then I'll post the name. If I can't post it then just PM me and I'll tell you the company.

    Just give us clues, we can piece it together then. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭gambit83


    agree with El Siglo, chin up OP, some people and companies have no respect for perspective employees

    i went for a interview with a company a few months ago, it was arranged in a hotel which i taught was pretty classy
    i get to the hotel and theirs a conference on, so i assumed that they rented a room to hold the interviews in as they had several lined up...i was wrong...they basically held the interview in the hotel lobby!! what a disaster!!

    the girl before me over-ran her interview by 45 mins, no apology offered by the interviewers
    due to the conference traffic in the lobby it was very hard to communicate effectively, not to mention when cups, glasses, etc. fell
    basically the interview consisted of me listening to how great the company was after i received a overview of the position which was different to the job spec advertised and the salary originally advertised was twice what they were actually offering

    regardless of this, i sent them a follow up email to thank them for their time and to see if i could provide any additional info, they never even bothered to respond to my email or give me a update regarding my interview/application


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,360 ✭✭✭Boskowski


    Poor thing terrible to make you feel so inadequate. Not. Yawn. Man or woman up or whatever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 817 ✭✭✭Ann Landers


    It's already been revealed by saying which brands they manufacture...

    I couldn't work it out from the P and G clue. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    bear1 wrote: »
    In my opinion, such an in depth exam wasn't necessary.
    Answers correctly to questions doesn't mean you will be the best worker ever.
    OK, that is their policy but for the love of God to belittle those that are unsuccessful is just staggering.

    Actually most studies show testing is the best way to select people. The tests aren't just simple maths questions. Partial math , comprehension and reasoning. They probably are doing a psychometric test too.

    Relying on interviews is notoriously a bad way to select people.

    OP this is how life is more often than not and pussy footing around not passing an exam is not a bad thing.

    Having done very similar I suspect you would take what she said just one way regardless how nicely it was said. I was in one test similar to this and when they said who passed one woman started crying because she didn't. She hadn't been told she failed or pointed out. The woman was the problem not the test and no grown person in their right mind should react like that.

    Your interpretation of what happened may not be the reality as you were already in distress after freaking out during the test and expecting failure. I would say you missed the subtlety of what was actually said and took it as belittling


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 danger_here


    Interviews are always a bit of a gamble


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    gambit83 wrote: »

    i went for a interview with a company a few months ago, it was arranged in a hotel which i taught was pretty classy
    i get to the hotel and theirs a conference on, so i assumed that they rented a room to hold the interviews in as they had several lined up...i was wrong...they basically held the interview in the hotel lobby!! what a disaster!!


    That's actually really common. Did many an interview in a hotel lobby with big and small companies. It particularly suits when they don't want some staff to know interviews are going on.

    I contract so have done lots of interviews. As a result I have no issues walking out of an interview or ending one early. If meeting in a lobby or doing a test was the worst experience I would be happy.

    Worst was being interviewed by 8 people who were spread around a room and I was sat in the middle of the room. The group interview which went on for an entire day and then I got an invite to come back and do the same the following day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,971 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    Boskowski wrote: »
    Poor thing terrible to make you feel so inadequate. Not. Yawn. Man or woman up or whatever.

    Very useful input, thank you :)
    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    Actually most studies show testing is the best way to select people. The tests aren't just simple maths questions. Partial math , comprehension and reasoning. They probably are doing a psychometric test too.

    Relying on interviews is notoriously a bad way to select people.

    OP this is how life is more often than not and pussy footing around not passing an exam is not a bad thing.

    Having done very similar I suspect you would take what she said just one way regardless how nicely it was said. I was in one test similar to this and when they said who passed one woman started crying because she didn't. She hadn't been told she failed or pointed out. The woman was the problem not the test and no grown person in their right mind should react like that.

    Your interpretation of what happened may not be the reality as you were already in distress after freaking out during the test and expecting failure. I would say you missed the subtlety of what was actually said and took it as belittling

    There are always to sides to a story, so I can take it into consideration that the person meant it another way.
    As it has been a good few hours since it has happened I've made my peace with it and I'm moving on with my current job and looking for ways to put the spark back into it.
    I do believe however, that a bit of discretion should be given.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    dunno about that.
    I've have some knobs interview me but I've never had that public deminision to the humilation.
    I did a group test for an internal job before - but was informed by email of my failure not on front of the others.


    Casting couch interview? :D

    Yeah a friend of mine was going for a job with a major American cosmetics firm and they were all holed up in a hotel room about 100 candidates for an all day event, and throughout the day, as they were doing the make-up on the models, a simple tap on the shoulder meant 'Please exit quietly as possible, you've been unsuccessful on this occasion'.

    There's a walk of shame and a half!


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