Manchester United Superthread 2014 Mod warning Post #1880 #2613

Let me say this : Its not about losing - Its the manner in which Moyes has set this team up - to lose.

Say what you like about Fergie (and I have over the years ) ,but he always went down swinging.
In fact the first few European campaigns were he tried to be a bit cagier is when Utd had there worst results.

If they are rebranding OT the O3 arena after these recent results ,it will be rebranded the Laughter lounge if they try this carry on against Bayern

What does Amy say ??

Need some cheering up today

In the first half I couldn't actually tell who was playing in what position , Fellaini out wide left , Cleverley out wide right.

Well...

That was pretty painful to watch. The starting formation was a bit obscure and the start from City was electric, talk about absolutely throwing a brick in my face of positivity.

Apart from Dzeko's botched attempt, I'm struggling to remember many saves De Gea had to make. For all the incisions and slick passing from City, they'd the same amount of chances as we did. And all I can remember is a few rubbish shots, Wellbecks flick and Mata's botched attempt.

I think, yet again, the issues that occured for the goals were the problems Moyes had already identified early on, and things that will be addressed in the summer. Evra looks shot on his feet. He was being torn asunder at every opportunity and frequently was jogging back when Navas was belting.

For the first goal, talk about completely away with the fairies. He was in a covering position and from the point Nasri got the ball at his feet, Evra barely moved. It was shocking to see.

The second goal, Ferdinand just showing how he is finished. And his reaction showed it. Dzeko didnt even move intelligently, he just lost Ferdinand with a straight run, the finish was excellent.

The third goal was so soft, it wasn't even a good dummy, Evra sold again stupidly, and Carrick wasn't anywhere close.

There appeared to be a resurgence towards the end of the first half with some slick play and unfortunately we didnt make any chances. Fellaini seemed be playing a more advanced role and I was suprised to see him struggling to get back at times. Granted he's no box to box player, he's not who we need in the final third.

I was disappointed overall with him last night. Too many times he was standing off, instead of just milling someone. The amount of times he jockeyed Toure, and I was screaming at the telly to tackle him. His elbow I think was a good call from the referee. From replays it doesnt appear he was looking at Zabaleta, and I think he went to fend of the defender, but obviously being alot taller caught him in the cheek.

Mata was extremely poor last night. Really poor. I'm hoping a good pre-season and a bit of frshness can bring out the best in him, cause I've seen a shadow so far of the Chelsea player who was rampant in the league.

Evident again last night was the lack of pace and width in the side. I lost count the amount of times Evra lost the ball and then we were hit on the break. But moreso when he or Rafael had the ball, and its like everyone moved forward, and no one made an option. It was just Sunday football to be honest, no one showing.

I've noticed that in a number of the bad performances, this craic with our fullbacks moving forward, with no one showing for the ball.

The lack of umph from the team was dissppointing, but I felt it was just another indication of our obvious weaklinks costing us.

The more I see Carrick, the more I fear for his survival in this squad, he looks to be worse and worse everytime I see him.

Still holding on for Moyes, when it comes to a game, I tend to focus more on the players playing, then the tactics of potential strategy behind it, and last night was riddled with examples of players costing us again, lazyness, end of careers and just downright dirt.

I'll just saw that obviously we lost 3-0, but it in no way felt as harrowing as the Liverpool result. While we fizzled out in the second half, there was few or far between attempts I can remember from City outside the goals. And you'd nearly be amde believe De Gea was working overtime last night.


Evra is actually boiling my blood this year, I don't know if it's lazyness or if it's his legs going, but it's a disgrace for him to be having the captains armband. And I wish Moyes would grow a pair of bollox and sort some things out now.

Hand the captaincy to Rooney, and remove Evra from the squad entirely and play Buttner.

Ernest Oreo wrote: »

get over to Dortmund now and tie up Klopp
surely he is sick of playing second fiddle to Bayern

Martino is leaving Barca this summer too, I reckon that is where Klopp will be headed

TheDoc wrote: »

Still holding on for Moyes, when it comes to a game, I tend to focus more on the players playing, then the tactics of potential strategy behind it, and last night was riddled with examples of players costing us again, lazyness, end of careers and just downright dirt.

I'll just saw that obviously we lost 3-0, but it in no way felt as harrowing as the Liverpool result. While we fizzled out in the second half, there was few or far between attempts I can remember from City outside the goals. And you'd nearly be amde believe De Gea was working overtime last night.


Evra is actually boiling my blood this year, I don't know if it's lazyness or if it's his legs going, but it's a disgrace for him to be having the captains armband. And I wish Moyes would grow a pair of bollox and sort some things out now.

Hand the captaincy to Rooney, and remove Evra from the squad entirely and play Buttner.

Still ignoring the fact that Moyes pushed Fellaini up the pitch and that Moyes continues to pick Evra.

The issue with paslce was partially resolved with Valencia coming back into the side recently and should have been a no brainer vs Clichy.

Moyes's negativity is the issue, bringing Cleverley back in after a month on the sidelines made no sense as did experimenting with a new formation.

Van Gaal has won the title in 3 different leagues we'd be blessed to have him