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Manchester United Superthread 2014 Mod warning Post #1880 #2613

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    But we dont know what he said. Unless you do?

    What happns if he just went over and said "this is not good enough"

    He could be season ticket holder for years. Cant really judge by 1 photo can you?
    Well you said he "has balls" ;) ... so maybe you may know more then me. Ticket holder or not what the hell is the point in roaring at Moyes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    i think it will be very hard from Man Utd to attract top players in the summer if Moyes is still in charge


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭n32


    J. Marston wrote: »
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    Ape

    BIg tough boy with a gut full of drink inside him. If he met Moyes one on one he wouldnt have the balls to open his mouth to him. Probably playing the big shot now with his mates


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭Danye


    Only thing we learned tonight is Scholes and Neville should be managing the club. Their zeroBS insight tonight was refreshing and their love for the club came through very strongly.

    I understand what your saying but those ingredients don't mean they would be good managers.


    What was Neville like as a pundit tonight? He's been annoying me lately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,274 ✭✭✭duffman13


    irishfeen wrote: »
    Well you said he "has balls" ;) ... so maybe you may know more then me. Ticket holder or not what the hell is the point in roaring at Moyes?

    Venting frustration. I agree i dont condone it but my god if i was paying money to go to that every week I would be beyond frustrated. Moyes is not the right man, fans are going to vent and this is only the start if he keeps his job


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,408 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Fergie "I'll knock Liverpool off their perch."

    Moyes "City are at the level we aspire to be."

    Argh!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    duffman13 wrote: »
    Sets us apart? That we are accepting mediocrity and aspiring to be Manchester City? Are you still a Moyes fan? I would wonder if there is any left at this stage!
    My opinion on here is well known - I'll give him until Christmas to turn it around... everyone accepts the team needs rebuilding so i'll give the man another transfer window to see what he is made of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,061 ✭✭✭WallyGUFC


    It is entirely possible that Bayern will beat us by double figures over two legs. I'd assume an embarrassment like that on the European stage would force the board's hands. If not, it is only a matter of time before the fans turn, and indeed some have already. Players lost and fans lost equals no more Moyes. Who would we get in though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,338 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    irishfeen wrote: »
    Well you said he "has balls" ;) ... so maybe you may know more then me. Ticket holder or not what the hell is the point in roaring at Moyes?

    To actually make him realise this is not good enough. To maybe wake Moyes up.

    I dont know.

    Once it was nothing personal and it was anger at teams performance throughout the season I dont have a problem. Fans are the club. Remember that.

    EVENFLOW



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    irishfeen wrote: »
    My opinion on here is well known - I'll give him until Christmas to turn it around... everyone accepts the team needs rebuilding so i'll give the man another transfer window to see what he is made of.

    Does it not worry you that the two players he has brought in are underpreforming?

    65m has taken us backwards drastically; why do you think throwing more money at the problem will solve it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    duffman13 wrote: »
    Venting frustration. I agree i dont condone it but my god if i was paying money to go to that every week I would be beyond frustrated. Moyes is not the right man, fans are going to vent and this is only the start if he keeps his job
    Every United fan is venting frustration - its not like we want to to see this happen... if Moyes is not the right man then fine but don't start this s.hite, not at Manchester United.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,071 ✭✭✭user2011


    Hopefully a video pops up on youtube or facebook. Guy behind Neville with the phone out..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭bullvine


    Has another manager ever got this much time in the era of premier league. I dont think so. United are such a backward club.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,274 ✭✭✭duffman13


    irishfeen wrote: »
    My opinion on here is well known - I'll give him until Christmas to turn it around... everyone accepts the team needs rebuilding so i'll give the man another transfer window to see what he is made of.

    I accept that and i was very much in the corner of giving him time. He somewhat addressed issues in midfield by signing Fellaini and Mata who lets be honest have been extremely poor especially the latter. The signings he has brought in and the ones we are being linked with are the type of players all fans here have been calling for. I just dont think he has the ability to put them in a system or extract performances from them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    To actually make him realise this is not good enough. To maybe wake Moyes up.

    I dont know.

    Once it was nothing personal and it was anger at teams performance throughout the season I dont have a problem. Fans are the club. Remember that.
    You think Moyes doesn't realise this isn't good enough?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,801 ✭✭✭jimmytwotimes 2013


    Danye wrote: »
    I understand what your saying but those ingredients don't mean they would be good managers.


    What was Neville like as a pundit tonight? He's been annoying me lately.

    Boys with their credentials could make manager material though. More qualified than a lot of others you'd have to say, played and won at a level not everyone has.

    Scholes was so honest that Neville was drawn into a more honest appraisal than he usually gives. They criticised the lack of guts in passing in midfield, noted how 3/4 of the back four need replacing, spotted welbeck too deep in the box for an outswinging corner for Dzeko's goal and generallly admitted united are way off the standard they should aim for with zero pace in the team.

    They hit numerous nails on the head, scholes particulary impressive but then again his brother isn't on the coaching staff so he can say what he wants.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,071 ✭✭✭user2011


    irishfeen wrote: »
    Every United fan is venting frustration - its not like we want to to see this happen... if Moyes is not the right man then fine but don't start this s.hite, not at Manchester United.

    Because it's never ever happened at United? A manager doing sh!te getting a bit of stick from the fans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,316 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Probably sick of the Hodgson comparisons, but yep, when a manager drags all hope and enjoyment out of watching football, it isn't a good sign. Houllier teams were boring to watch, but he had results for a while and tried to play to the teams strengths.

    Funnily enough IIRC Hodgson had a better record away from home, but when you're dreading watching your team play at home, well....

    I'm still amazed there has been little show of discontent at home games. I realy don't think even Ferguson envisaged these performances as bad times. Tbh loads of moaning on twitter and message boards isn't going to hit home at directors living in a coccoon.

    You can worry about what will opposition fans think, but opposition fans will slag no matter what. Liverpool used to be derided for giving managers too long a time, then got derided for ditching 3 in 2 years. So there you are, you'll never win if you judge opposition fans opinions as a yardstick of what to do!

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    Does it not worry you that the two players he has brought in are underpreforming?

    65m has taken us backwards drastically; why do you think throwing more money at the problem will solve it?
    As I said i'll give him this transfer window to bring in quality and move on driftwood - it doesn't matter what manager is in charge for that, it has to happen in any case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,338 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    irishfeen wrote: »
    You think Moyes doesn't realise this isn't good enough?

    By his interviews? No I think he thinks he can turn it around

    EVENFLOW



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    Was it being sung for West Ham game? Did not hear it myself.

    Not heard it in while. Kinda around Stoke/Fulham games

    Don't know. I can only go on the games I have been to. Can't hear clearly on streams or the TV.

    It was sung at the Liverpool and the CL game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    user2011 wrote: »
    Because it's never ever happened at United? A manager doing sh!te getting a bit of stick from the fans.
    There is letting Moyes know the feelings of the fans and then there is some clown trying to be the big man roaring s.hite...


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    irishfeen wrote: »
    As I said i'll give him this transfer window to bring in quality and move on driftwood - it doesn't matter what manager is in charge for that, it has to happen in any case.

    Thats a nice answer to another question, but not to the one I asked :p

    So I'll ask again; given he's spent 65m and brought the team backwards, why do you think Moyes will improve if given a further 200m?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    I love the way they just let Scholes talk for most of it, knowledge of the game is brilliant


    He said Moyes needs time as well though, I'd love if they probed him a bit more after saying that to hear his reasons, Moyes needing players was as far as he went.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    nuxxx wrote: »
    In fairness to Shreeves to he called him out on saying United needed to aspire to Citys level

    This is totally off point, but I met Geoff and Martin Tyler after the game. I shook both of their hands.

    Shreeves has a funny waddle of a walk. He's packing serious weight under that jacket. He remind me of a penguin.

    Tyler was very nice. Gave me a huge smile and thanked me. What for, I'm not really sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,274 ✭✭✭duffman13


    Thats a nice answer to another question, but not to the one I asked :p

    So I'll ask again; given he's spent 65m and brought the team backwards, why do you think Moyes will improve if given a further 200m?

    PLayers will be better than whats there but they will be playing for a clown, if he signed 10 players of the calibre of Rues, Kroos, Vidal etc we stilll wouldnt win a league with Moyes. Fellaini and Mata are two of the best players in the league over the last 3 seasons and now look distinctly average


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    By his interviews? No I think he thinks he can turn it around
    What do you expect him to say in the interviews? ... there are loads of players at United who are not near the quality needed to compete at the top? while Chelsea, Man City, Real Madrid, Bayern, Barcelona etc. were building quality teams spending millions and millions United buried their heads in the sand for years? ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭Rubber_Soul


    bassy wrote: »
    the idiot is to the far right with hand to gob,and the twat sitting beside him Neville.

    Say what you like about Moyes but wtf has Phil Neville done to deserve being called a twat?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    People are saying give me another transfer Window ,
    We won't be attracting a lot of world class players this summer IMO ,

    We need midfielders or at least a midfield general ,
    Were about to loose 3 of our back four at the end of the season ,
    We've problems all over the field do people honestly think Moyes can turn this around ,a, it stands he will need 4-5 transfer windows to rebuild ,
    100 + million for the next few seasons maybe but can't see that happening ,


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,071 ✭✭✭user2011


    irishfeen wrote: »
    There is letting Moyes know the feelings of the fans and then there is some clown trying to be the big man roaring s.hite...

    You know what he said? It could of been a load of very sensible sh!te tbf.


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