Inquiry set up into taping of phone calls from Garda stations

ThisRegard · 25-03-2014 06:36PM

donkey_breath wrote: »

are you sure your not referring to paid AGS shill paul Williams ?

Have a listen to today's News at 1, Reynolds makes Williams seem like an amateur.

His 'report' was trending on Twitter, search it for his name and you'll be in for a treat.

donkey_breath · 25-03-2014 06:38PM

ThisRegard wrote: »

Have a listen to today's News at 1, Reynolds makes Williams seem like an amateur.

his father was a guard

anyone who has a guard as a brother , sister , mother , father , they refuse to see how things really are

their loyalty is both admirable and terrifying

MilanPan!c · 25-03-2014 06:40PM

donkey_breath wrote: »

most people never have any real dealings with the guards and due to the way the guards are represented by our media and establishment as unconditionally just and virtuous , most people not only assume they are unshakably decent , they feel its unrespectable not to entirely trust them

Err... I don't think the media is only producing super hero cops stuff.. In fact some of the most popular crime/police tv is about criminal behaviour of the police. Plus, considering all of the revelations that came out of the troubles well... I think most people are realistically pretty aware of the fact that lots of cops aren't moral beacons.

Saying that.

If you need help, you call the cops. They have to be trusted and they have to be supported by society.

AND

They have to be held to the highest standard possible.

25-03-2014 06:43PM

donkey_breath wrote: »

got convicted in a farcical case , paid the fine , judge gave me the probation act and struck out my conviction , were I ever to be involved in a similar case again however , the conviction would resurrect itself

in otherwords this hurt me

Knowing the lax laws in Ireland, to get that severe a sentence in Ireland, you must have committed genocide!

wicklowstevo · 25-03-2014 06:45PM

donkey_breath wrote: »

his father was a guard

anyone who has a guard as a brother , sister , mother , father , they refuse to see how things really are

their loyalty is both admirable and terrifying

hold grudges much eh :rolleyes::rolleyes:

My name is URL · 25-03-2014 06:48PM

I've a sneaking suspicion that this issue coming to light may be the real reason that Callanan decided to 'resign' today.

For Forks Sake · 25-03-2014 06:50PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Ming, he's just a simple stoner from Roscommon. He's about the only one you could trust.

This is Mings latest missive. Not even FF could top this for sheer populist nonsense...and he spelt Sergeant wrong as well. :rolleyes:

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Sargent Maurice McCabe for Garda Commissioner.

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There is nothing to stop the government from making this appointment. Technically they can appoint anyone from within the Garda Siochana. Sargent McCabe can and should become Commissioner McCabe.

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Shady Tady · 25-03-2014 06:55PM

This is a complete joke, the recording equipment was put in place since the 80's due to bomb scares to stations, the gardai informed the AG last November and the AG has only now brought it to government, what the hell is going on. Now the AG had serious questions to answer

JamesGW · 25-03-2014 06:56PM

Since I find it difficult to believe there are all that many solicitors who don't have friends or at least friendly acquaintinences amoung the gardai (or who have other friends who are solicitors in the know) I suspect this isn't likely to be the main issue ....
On the other hand if recordings of a certain type of individual trying to put pressure on ... or get a favour from a member of the force exist and fall into the hands of the press or their enemies ..... then the fecal matter hits the rotary impeller .....

wicklowstevo · 25-03-2014 06:56PM

FoooKing dope cant even spell. and he is a man you trust ? Flanagan is as much as scumbag as the rest , he just attracts the loyalty of idiots , same with Wallace and Daly

mikom · 25-03-2014 06:59PM

I hear one of the taped recordings is from the traveller lady who rang up to ask why her 13 month old daughter was on the pulse system........

hatrickpatrick · 25-03-2014 07:00PM

JamesGW wrote: »

..... then the fecal matter hits the rotary impeller .....

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Fred Swanson · 25-03-2014 07:00PM

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porsche959 · 25-03-2014 07:01PM

Shady Tady wrote: »

You only have yourself to blame! Have manners in future

Post reported.

Fred Swanson · 25-03-2014 07:01PM

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ThisRegard · 25-03-2014 07:01PM

Shady Tady wrote: »

This is a complete joke, the recording equipment was put in place since the 80's due to bomb scares to stations, the gardai informed the AG last November and the AG has only now brought it to government, what the hell is going on. Now the AG had serious questions to answer

The AG, attorney general?

Shady Tady · 25-03-2014 07:02PM

porsche959 wrote: »

Post reported.

I'm telling Mammy on you!

MadamX · 25-03-2014 07:12PM

Perhaps I'm naive but aren't all phone calls to insurance companies, banks, utility companies recorded 'for training' if nothing else. Why is everyone so surprised that a call to or from a Garda station might have been recorded?

mikom · 25-03-2014 07:15PM

MadamX wrote: »

Perhaps I'm naive but aren't all phone calls to insurance companies, banks, utility companies recorded 'for training' if nothing else. Why is everyone so surprised that a call to or from a Garda station might have been recorded?

Are those the ones that have a recording informing you of same.............. just as a warning, like............

D.Q · 25-03-2014 07:18PM

There actually isn't an institution in this country that you can have any sort of trust in, just generations of corrupt pricks looking out for themselves. And you can be sure that people will huff and puff about it, but nothing of any real consequence will come from this.

Fred Swanson · 25-03-2014 07:21PM

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Menas · 25-03-2014 07:22PM

Enda has to clear the ranks. I reckon Shatter will go. We get a new minister (Leo hopefully), a new commisioner and a long expensive enquiry to look forward to.

The Garda are becoming a joke. Clare Daly said that the GSOC enquiry in to her incident last year is still ongoing after 12 months. Key reason is that the Gardai are so slow to cooperate. Took 44 days for them to provide a list of garda on duty the night she was arrested.

osarusan · 25-03-2014 07:24PM

I would gave thought that 999 called would have been recorded as a matter of course, whatever about outgoing calls.

Is there any info on the kinds of calls recorded?

kenco · 25-03-2014 07:26PM

Dont know if things have changed recently but a few years ago any company taping a call had to advise the caller that the call might be taped (be it for training purposes or otherwise). How often this was tested or adhered to could be debatable but I think (could be incorrect) that a court would not reference any recorded audio if both parties were not aware they were being recorded unless in very specific and restricted scenarios (e.g. AGS, Emergency Services, etc) but.......recording of outgoing calls is a different matter unless all making the calls know they are recorded. Some companies state this up front in their contracts, user manuals, etc

If this was widespread in multiple locations, multiple regions I am surprised it has only come to light now so there may be a lot more to this than meets the eye. Possible this was a couple of sites and if so whats been presented today is blown out of all proportions....

All very murky indeed

Mr. Incognito · 25-03-2014 07:27PM

I would guess that the system was put in place during the troubles to record bomb warnings in the republic. However this practice should have been decommissioned in 1997.

Any recording of solicitor client conversations would have serious ramifications including cases where persons would have made discovery of electronic media from guards as part of a defense or evidence for timing at a garda stations to corroborate timelines in place.

If this was being recorded without knowledge of the Government or Executive then the Guards need to be cleaned out right from the top.

Just like we did with the rotten CEOs in the banks........................... oh hang on

25-03-2014 07:27PM

osarusan wrote: »

I would gave thought that 999 called would have been recorded as a matter of course, whatever about outgoing calls.

Is there any info on the kinds of calls recorded?

all 999 calls are recorded, i would expect that everyone would know that!

i think this is in relation to direct numbers to stations.
i can assure you ordinary gardai didnt know this!!

markad1 · 25-03-2014 07:28PM

Is it not common practice that all incoming phone calls are recorded in a lot of places "for quality and training purposes"?

Fred Swanson · 25-03-2014 07:28PM

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Roger_007 · 25-03-2014 07:32PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Ming, he's just a simple stoner from Roscommon. He's about the only one you could trust.

Wasn't he the bucko who got penalty points quashed..........so it's down to eh....none.:eek:

mick_savage · 25-03-2014 07:32PM

Trigger Happy wrote: »

Enda has to clear the ranks. I reckon Shatter will go. We get a new minister (Leo hopefully), a new commisioner and a long expensive enquiry to look forward to.

The Garda are becoming a joke. Clare Daly said that the GSOC enquiry in to her incident last year is still ongoing after 12 months. Key reason is that the Gardai are so slow to cooperate. Took 44 days for them to provide a list of garda on duty the night she was arrested.

yeah its taking a while to ( report ) hear what everyone already knows

that their was an attempt to stitch up clare daly

Inquiry set up into taping of phone calls from Garda stations

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