Inquiry set up into taping of phone calls from Garda stations

The_Minister

www.independent.ie/irish-news/major-revelations-on-recording-of-conversations-in-garda-stations-30124162.html

“In the context of ongoing legal proceedings in a particular case, the Government has learned that a system was in place in a large number of Garda stations whereby incoming and outgoing telephone calls were taped and recorded. The Government was informed of this new information at its meeting today.”

If this means that prisoner consultations with legal advisors were recorded by Gardaí.....oh, dear Lord.

This might make GSOC look like a storm in a teacup.

token56

Devastating if true. Callinan certainly knew what he was doing "retiring" this morning before this information came to light.

So many questions will need to be answered but I wont be holding my breath.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

It'd make for a good enough tv show which could be presented by Paul 'the dragon slayer' Williams.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YwQ9mRyBjc

131spanner

At this stage I'm wondering if there is anyone in Ireland who holds a position of power who isn't corrupt?

Donkey Oaty

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YwQ9mRyBjc

The guards seemed to do okay in that.

jimgoose

...and they're off...

SEPT 23 1989

you can hear the clink of champagne glasses in solicitors offices all over the country

government should fall over this

drunkmonkey

131spanner wrote: »

At this stage I'm wondering if there is anyone in Ireland who holds a position of power who isn't corrupt?

Ming, he's just a simple stoner from Roscommon. He's about the only one you could trust.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience

131spanner wrote: »

At this stage I'm wondering if there is anyone in Ireland who holds a position of power who isn't corrupt?

Why how many of them have been proven to be corrupt?

Seems to me this is just a giant **** sandwich with Alan Shatters name on it

joe swanson

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Ming, he's just a simple stoner from Roscommon. He's about the only one you could trust.

Oh the hypocrite - great lad

Spring Onion

131spanner wrote: »

At this stage I'm wondering if there is anyone in Ireland who holds a position of power who isn't corrupt?

I would imagine it is difficult to remain uncorrupt and keep your 'position of power'.

131spanner

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

Why how many of them have been proven to be corrupt?

Enough to question those who haven't

131spanner

Spring Onion wrote: »

I would imagine it is difficult to remain uncorrupt and keep your 'position of power'.

This is true, unfortunately.

Banjo String

A 2014 general election is 9/2 on paddy power.

Guy:Incognito

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Ming, he's just a simple stoner from Roscommon. He's about the only one you could trust.

Ah yes, aul Luke "penalty points" Flanaghan

gazzer

I wonder how long this was going on? Why did it stop? Did Shatter know about it? I wonder what Paul Reynolds thinks about the behaviour of his man crush Callinan now?

osarusan

gazzer wrote: »

I wonder how long this was going on? Why did it stop? Did Shatter know about it?

IT reporting that it has been going on for years, but stopped in November 2013. Very recently...why did it stop is a very relevant question indeed, and who made the decision to stop it.

token56

As pointed out in the thread in Politics this practice was apparently known about before now it just didn't make as significant headlines back then

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=89624004&postcount=1074

I wasn't aware of it myself back then. But it does make one ask why such the uproar now if GSOC made the practice public months ago?

JONJO THE MISER

gazzer wrote: »

I wonder what Paul Reynolds thinks about the behaviour of his man crush Callinan now?

Paul Reynolds is nothing but a mouthpiece for the guards, zero credibilty.
And people here complain about the inbalance in Fox news, maybe they should look closer to home.

dilallio

"From the information available, the practice of making recordings was in place for many years and was discontinued in November of 2013. It is not yet clear why this practice was in operation.

I wonder how many different governments were in power during this time?

gazzer

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Paul Reynolds is nothing but a mouthpiece for the guards, zero credibilty.
And people here complain about the inbalance in Fox news, maybe they should look closer to home.

I always found him to be a complete knob but the way he was going on about Callinan today was unreal. You would swear he was talking about Mother Theresa

humberklog

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Paul Reynolds is nothing but a mouthpiece for the guards, zero credibilty.
And people here complain about the inbalance in Fox news, maybe they should look closer to home.

Are you sure you're not mixing up your Pauls? Paul Williams sound exactly like the guy you describe.

Paul Reynolds is RTE crime corr.

wouldnt surprise me if most likely Garda management were trying to catch out Gardai using the phones for their own private phone calls.

JONJO THE MISER

humberklog wrote: »

Are you sure you're not mixing up your Pauls? Paul Williams sound exactly like the guy you describe.

Paul Reynolds is RTE crime corr.

No there both as bad as one another.

snubbleste

humberklog wrote: »

Paul Reynolds is RTE crime corr.

He's the one with the da and the brudders all cops.

drunkmonkey

He's brother Burt is a decent auld skin though.

tritium

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

you can hear the clink of champagne glasses in solicitors offices all over the country

government should fall over this

Why? This appears to have gone on for several years, likely before this govt was formed and the government have put it in the open and established an enquiry. What should theyyy fall over?

T-K-O

bubblypop wrote: »

wouldnt surprise me if most likely Garda management were trying to catch out Gardai using the phones for their own private phone calls.

That's cute

GAAman

the Government has learned that a system was in place in a large number of Garda stations whereby incoming and outgoing telephone calls were taped and recorded.

Wait, wait just a second. Calls were taped AND recorded??!!!

I mean if they were just taped OR recorded that wouldn't be so bad, but both!!!

The Backwards Man

Was this not common knowledge? I know in my area we always knew which stations to ring if we needed something done as they were the ones that had the calls recorded.

snubbleste

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Was this not common knowledge? I know in my area we always knew which stations to ring if we needed something done as they were the ones that had the calls recorded.

No it was not!!

metroburgers

The_Minister wrote: »

BREAKING: Inquiry set up into taping of phone calls from Garda stations

How serious is this revelation, objectively speaking, e.g. legal ramifications?

Fred Swanson

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metroburgers

It seems to me this revelation has been released very strategically, as Shatter will have to resign regardless if he was aware or not aware of this in November 2013 when the recording practice was discontinued.

E.g. Shatter you know the way you have to resign this evening anyway, will you resign over this instead?

Dyr

How the f**k could this go unreported if it was happening since the 80s?

metroburgers

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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But wouldn't a solicitor have to prove the recordings were used to influence due process?

donkey_breath

131spanner wrote: »

At this stage I'm wondering if there is anyone in Ireland who holds a position of power who isn't corrupt?

hopefully these revelations will put and end to the nauseating tradition of endlessly eulogising AGS on this site

I realise the membership is young but that they appear so naïve is worrying

the police force in this country are deeply corrupt and always have been

Stavros Murphy

Bambi wrote: »

How the f**k could this go unreported if it was happening since the 80s?

I'll give you child rape, Magdalene launderies, collusion with drug dealers and planning corruption. You can go figure after that. It's kinda cultural..at this stage

Fred Swanson

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MilanPan!c

metroburgers wrote: »

But wouldn't a solicitor have to prove the recordings were used to influence due process?

No. Those are privilidged communications.

If they were being recorded it would mean the Irish police had for years been breaching the European Convention on Human Rights Act of 2003!

donkey_breath

gazzer wrote: »

I wonder how long this was going on? Why did it stop? Did Shatter know about it? I wonder what Paul Reynolds thinks about the behaviour of his man crush Callinan now?

are you sure your not referring to paid AGS shill paul Williams ?

suicide_circus

this could be monumental.

every conviction in the last 30 years now has a question mark over it (potentially)

donkey_breath

suicide_circus wrote: »

this could be monumental.

every conviction in the last 30 years now has a question mark over it (potentially)

that's good , I was stitched up by AGS back in 2005 and got a conviction out of it ( which was struck out )

donkey_breath

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Paul Reynolds is nothing but a mouthpiece for the guards, zero credibilty.
And people here complain about the inbalance in Fox news, maybe they should look closer to home.

the vast vast majority of the irish media are unequivocally pro guard ( paul Reynolds included ) but paul Williams actually owes his entire career to leaked stories , in turn he comes out to bat on a regular basis for AGS

suicide_circus

donkey_breath wrote: »

that's good , I was stitched up by AGS back in 2005 and got a conviction out of it ( which was struck out )

which was it, conviction or struck out?

Fred Swanson

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Santa Cruz

gazzer wrote: »

I wonder how long this was going on? Why did it stop? Did Shatter know about it? I wonder what Paul Reynolds thinks about the behaviour of his man crush Callinan now?

Is it a distraction to take the heat off Shatter?

MilanPan!c

donkey_breath wrote: »

the vast vast majority of the irish media are unequivocally pro guard ( paul Reynolds included ) but paul Williams actually owes his entire career to leaked stories , in turn he comes out to bat on a regular basis for AGS

I am pro-society and pro-professional policing.

I am also anti-corruption.

These endless revelations are as much a slap in the face of pro-police people as they are of anti-police people.

If this is true as is being described there's no end to the ramifications.

suicide_circus

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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they were the ones doing the recording/listening I'd imagine.

MilanPan!c

Fred Swanson wrote: »

Did the rank and file Gardaí know of this carry on?

I've spoken to two just now and they didn't. So it was not universally known.

131spanner

donkey_breath wrote: »

hopefully these revelations will put and end to the nauseating tradition of endlessly eulogising AGS on this site

I realise the membership is young but that they appear so naïve is worrying

the police force in this country are deeply corrupt and always have been

Erm, ok.