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Inquiry set up into taping of phone calls from Garda stations

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭metroburgers


    BREAKING: Inquiry set up into taping of phone calls from Garda stations

    How serious is this revelation, objectively speaking, e.g. legal ramifications?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭metroburgers


    It seems to me this revelation has been released very strategically, as Shatter will have to resign regardless if he was aware or not aware of this in November 2013 when the recording practice was discontinued.

    E.g. Shatter you know the way you have to resign this evening anyway, will you resign over this instead?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    How the f**k could this go unreported if it was happening since the 80s?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭metroburgers


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    But wouldn't a solicitor have to prove the recordings were used to influence due process?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 14 donkey_breath


    131spanner wrote: »
    At this stage I'm wondering if there is anyone in Ireland who holds a position of power who isn't corrupt?

    hopefully these revelations will put and end to the nauseating tradition of endlessly eulogising AGS on this site

    I realise the membership is young but that they appear so naïve is worrying

    the police force in this country are deeply corrupt and always have been


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    Bambi wrote: »
    How the f**k could this go unreported if it was happening since the 80s?

    I'll give you child rape, Magdalene launderies, collusion with drug dealers and planning corruption. You can go figure after that. It's kinda cultural..at this stage


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Site Banned Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭MilanPan!c


    But wouldn't a solicitor have to prove the recordings were used to influence due process?

    No. Those are privilidged communications.

    If they were being recorded it would mean the Irish police had for years been breaching the European Convention on Human Rights Act of 2003!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 14 donkey_breath


    gazzer wrote: »
    I wonder how long this was going on? Why did it stop? Did Shatter know about it? I wonder what Paul Reynolds thinks about the behaviour of his man crush Callinan now?

    are you sure your not referring to paid AGS shill paul Williams ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    this could be monumental.

    every conviction in the last 30 years now has a question mark over it (potentially)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 14 donkey_breath


    this could be monumental.

    every conviction in the last 30 years now has a question mark over it (potentially)


    that's good , I was stitched up by AGS back in 2005 and got a conviction out of it ( which was struck out )


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 14 donkey_breath


    Paul Reynolds is nothing but a mouthpiece for the guards, zero credibilty.
    And people here complain about the inbalance in Fox news, maybe they should look closer to home.

    the vast vast majority of the irish media are unequivocally pro guard ( paul Reynolds included ) but paul Williams actually owes his entire career to leaked stories , in turn he comes out to bat on a regular basis for AGS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    that's good , I was stitched up by AGS back in 2005 and got a conviction out of it ( which was struck out )
    which was it, conviction or struck out?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    gazzer wrote: »
    I wonder how long this was going on? Why did it stop? Did Shatter know about it? I wonder what Paul Reynolds thinks about the behaviour of his man crush Callinan now?

    Is it a distraction to take the heat off Shatter?


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭MilanPan!c


    the vast vast majority of the irish media are unequivocally pro guard ( paul Reynolds included ) but paul Williams actually owes his entire career to leaked stories , in turn he comes out to bat on a regular basis for AGS

    I am pro-society and pro-professional policing.

    I am also anti-corruption.

    These endless revelations are as much a slap in the face of pro-police people as they are of anti-police people.

    If this is true as is being described there's no end to the ramifications.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


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    they were the ones doing the recording/listening I'd imagine.


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭MilanPan!c


    Did the rank and file Gardaí know of this carry on?

    I've spoken to two just now and they didn't. So it was not universally known.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭131spanner


    hopefully these revelations will put and end to the nauseating tradition of endlessly eulogising AGS on this site

    I realise the membership is young but that they appear so naïve is worrying

    the police force in this country are deeply corrupt and always have been

    Erm, ok.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭metroburgers


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    Is it a distraction to take the heat off Shatter?

    Nah he's gone, and it'd handy to take this with him...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 14 donkey_breath


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    NO ! , just like they didn't know about the quashing of penalty points for the well connected :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Shady Tady


    that's good , I was stitched up by AGS back in 2005 and got a conviction out of it ( which was struck out )

    We're all innocent in here!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 14 donkey_breath


    which was it, conviction or struck out?


    got convicted in a farcical case , paid the fine , judge gave me the probation act and struck out my conviction , were I ever to be involved in a similar case again however , the conviction would resurrect itself

    in otherwords this hurt me


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 14 donkey_breath


    MilanPan!c wrote: »
    I am pro-society and pro-professional policing.

    I am also anti-corruption.

    These endless revelations are as much a slap in the face of pro-police people as they are of anti-police people.

    If this is true as is being described there's no end to the ramifications.


    most people never have any real dealings with the guards and due to the way the guards are represented by our media and establishment as unconditionally just and virtuous , most people not only assume they are unshakably decent , they feel its unrespectable not to entirely trust them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Nah he's gone, and it'd handy to take this with him...

    they could justify recording incoming calls....but prisioner calls (on unsafe ground there I would think)

    this should make for unsettling time for some senior gaurds,who have some serious ass covering to do now!!

    how much longer will younger member put up with such corruption being exposed at the top???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Shady Tady


    got convicted in a farcical case , paid the fine , judge gave me the probation act and struck out my conviction , were I ever to be involved in a similar case again however , the conviction would resurrect itself

    in otherwords this hurt me

    You only have yourself to blame! Have manners in future


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 14 donkey_breath


    Shady Tady wrote: »
    We're all innocent in here!

    unfortunately for me I defended myself against an intruder who was well connected with the callinans of this world ( you know , your friends ;) )

    I also had a crap solicitor and foolishly didn't appeal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Shady Tady


    unfortunately for me I defended myself against an intruder who was well connected with the callinans of this world ( you know , your friends ;) )

    I also had a crap solicitor and foolishly didn't appeal

    Your not from Mayo are you?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 14 donkey_breath


    Shady Tady wrote: »
    You only have yourself to blame! Have manners in future


    id have thought that today of all days , your gang would be less brass balled

    obviously not


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