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Is it 'wrong' for a female teacher to be with a male student?

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  • #32
    Penny Tration
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    bubblypop wrote: »
    what???????:eek:
    excuse my ignorance but is this even possible?
    10 year old?

    He was eight when it started.

    And yup, entirely possible if he had a precocious puberty.


  • #33
    Tokyo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,655 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Do you plan to contact the authorities in Australia or their media about this?

    While I don't personally like it, I have no reason to think that it's not above board - I doubt she's sneaking back into the school system with no license.


  • #34
    Scotty P
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 42 ✭Scotty P


    bubblypop wrote: »
    what???????:eek:
    excuse my ignorance but is this even possible?
    10 year old?

    Yup.. and he wasn't ten (from the get-go at least): he was 8.


  • #35
    Ray Palmer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    I don't think a 15 year old lad is likely to be damaged by having a fling with a hot teacher.

    Well I am going to assume you have no medical background nor have done any research. Be rest assured it does, primarily leading to a person very confused at the appropriate age of sexual contact. Some have gone on to do similar with young people themselves. It completely robs the child of a normal growing up experiences of dealing with a relationship.


  • #36
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    Well I am going to assume you have no medical background nor have done any research.

    Damn it! I keep forgetting that we're supposed to upload our degrees and employment history before we post in After Hours!

    Guys, we can close the thread now, the doctor has spoken.


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  • #37
    Legs.Eleven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    I have to say and I'm open to be being banned or whatever but the amount of fcuking imbeciles (small minority) that post on Boards is doing my head in.


  • #38
    Legs.Eleven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    tylercheribini wrote: »
    if she is 28 and still single chances are she is kicked ugly and so desperate for her hole she will get off with 15 year old students and risk losing her job. Ive read about about quite a few of these cases in America and the vast majority of the female teachers in question were horrendous looking.


    You're an idiot.


  • #39
    John Cherry
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭John Cherry


    Legs.Eleven wrote: »
    I have to say and I'm open to be being banned or whatever but the amount of fcuking imbeciles (small minority) that post on Boards is doing my head in.

    Well said.


  • #40
    Ray Palmer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    Damn it! I keep forgetting that we're supposed to upload our degrees and employment history before we post in After Hours!

    Guys, we can close the thread now, the doctor has spoken.

    No you just aren't expected to be an idiot who thinks their opinion trumps actual research. You can always educate yourself


  • #41
    orangesoda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭orangesoda


    I would gladly have intercourse with 20 of my old teachers, its a big fetish of mine


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  • #42
    Scotty P
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 42 ✭Scotty P


    tylercheribini wrote: »
    if she is 28 and still single chances are she is kicked ugly and so desperate for her hole she will get off with 15 year old students and risk losing her job. Ive read about about quite a few of these cases in America and the vast majority of the female teachers in question were horrendous looking.

    Well then, how do you explain Hummer Mom:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNtSs39a3Rw


  • #43
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    No you just aren't expected to be an idiot who thinks their opinion trumps actual research. You can always educate yourself

    Ah would you stop. As I said:
    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    Speaking from my own perspective

    Nowhere did I claim my opinions "trump actual research", but you're having a laugh if you think that I'm going to do hours of research before having a chat in After Hours.

    If you disagree with my opinion, I'm happy to have a chat about that, but don't appeal to authority and put words in my mouth. Wind your neck in.


  • #44
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Yes. Wrong professionally, ethically, socially and legally


  • #45
    Greenmachine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    The most shocking thing about cases like this is how many of these cases are being reported about now. There seems to be something particularly subversive about it. I is beginning to look like a long held secret is unraveling. Are there in fact more female sexual offenders than men. Is there some kind of a taboo that the victim won't be believe. Do people not think it is credible that women do this sort of thing. Something similar happened with the churches cover ups.


  • #46
    Stroke Politics
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭Stroke Politics


    This thread does not make any sense to me at all.

    There is no such thing as a teaching licence in this country. There is a fairly ineffective Teaching Council, which all teachers must be registered with to get paid. That is the only power that they have, and you did not have to be a member of the T.C. until recent legislation enacted last year by Min. Quinn.

    The union? They (the three teaching unions in Ireland that are recognised) don't issue licences either, and I doubt very much if they would take the side of a member involved in a serious breach of child protection.

    As well as that, when a teacher moves to a new school they must apply for Garda vetting all over again. If they are working temporarily in a school on any casual basis, they must have a sworn affidavit signed by a solicitor that they have no convictions.

    I smell bull. here....


  • #47
    Legs.Eleven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    Stroke Politics wrote: »
    This thread does not make any sense to me at all.

    There is no such thing as a teaching licence in this country. There is a fairly ineffective Teaching Council, which all teachers must be registered with to get paid. That is the only power that they have, and you did not have to be a member of the T.C. until recent legislation enacted last year by Min. Quinn.

    The union? They (the three teaching unions in Ireland that are recognised) don't issue licences either, and I doubt very much if they would take the side of a member involved in a serious breach of child protection.

    As well as that, when a teacher moves to a new school they must apply for Garda vetting all over again. If they are working temporarily in a school on any casual basis, they must have a sworn affidavit signed by a solicitor that they have no convictions.

    I smell bull. here....


    It happened in Australia.


  • #48
    Czarcasm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    The strange part of our law actually means if that 15 year old boy had sex with a 15 year old girl he could be prosecuted. Their is no age of consent for males in a heterosexual relationship.

    WE also don't have a law about "positions of power" in the country. In the UK if you have sex with a consenting party and you are considered in a position of power/responsibility over the child you can be charged. So a teacher 22 and a pupil is 18 and you have sex you have broken the law and rightly so.


    Ray I can't link directly to the legislation as I'm on mobile, but just to be clear on the above two points -

    Defilement of a child aged under 17 years

    Section 3 of the Criminal Law (Sex Offences) Act 2006 (pdf) as amended by Section 5 of the Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) (Amendment) Act 2007 (pdf) makes it a criminal offence to engage or attempt to engage in a sexual act with a child under 17 years. The maximum sentence is five years, ten years if the accused is a person in authority. A person in authority means:
    A parent, step-parent, guardian, grandparent, uncle or aunt of the victim, or
    any person acting in loco parentis (in place of parent or parents) to the victim, or
    any person responsible for the education, supervision or welfare of the victim.

    The maximum sentence is greater for a second or subsequent offence.

    The accused may argue that he or she honestly believed that the child was aged 17 years or over. The court must then consider whether or not that belief was reasonable. It is not a defence to show that the child consented to the sexual act.

    The consent of the Director of Public Prosecutions is required for any prosecution of a child under the age of 17 years for this offence. A person who is convicted of this offence and is not more than two years older than the victim is not subject to the requirements of the Sex Offenders Act 2001. This means they will not have their name placed on the Sex Offenders Register.

    A girl aged under 17 years who has sexual intercourse may not be convicted of an offence on that ground alone.


    Source: Citizen's Information Website

    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    Well I am going to assume you have no medical background nor have done any research. Be rest assured it does, primarily leading to a person very confused at the appropriate age of sexual contact. Some have gone on to do similar with young people themselves. It completely robs the child of a normal growing up experiences of dealing with a relationship.


    Good post, but Christ I hate hearing that as a justification, not because it's untrue, but because I hear it used far too often as simply an excuse to gain sympathy for the perpetrator. It doesn't happen nearly as often as is made out. A good article I always link to is this one -


    "Cycle of child sexual abuse: links between being a victim and becoming a perpetrator"; British Medical Journal


    And then this one -


    "Misperceptions about child sex offenders"; Australian Institute of Criminology


  • #49
    Scotty P
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 42 ✭Scotty P


    Greenmachine wrote: »
    There seems to be something particularly subversive about it. I is beginning to look like a long held secret is unraveling. Are there in fact more female sexual offenders than men.

    I would say there are more female teachers having sex with students than there are male teachers with female ones.

    There are websites dedicated to naming female teachers it's that bad.

    Here is a list that was made last year:

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/12/39783/


  • #50
    Stroke Politics
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭Stroke Politics


    Legs.Eleven wrote: »
    It happened in Australia.

    There are several Australian teacher regulatory authorities with similar functions to here, but the licence certainly does not come from a union. I'd be very surprised if this is true, unless perhaps the person re-registered with a new name and address....


  • #51
    Ray Palmer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    Nowhere did I claim my opinions "trump actual research", but you're having a laugh if you think that I'm going to do hours of research before having a chat in After Hours.
    5 seconds of thought and 2 minutes research would show how idiotic your statement is. Your choice to be ignorant not mine, I am just calling you on it.


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  • #52
    Ann Landers
    Closed Accounts Posts: 817 ✭✭✭Ann Landers


    Of course it's wrong. That's a totally bonkers story OP.

    It's wrong on two counts:

    a) he's underage (the biggie)

    b) even if he was 18, and about to finish school, she is still in a position of authority

    This was in Australia, yeah? Wonder what the reaction would be Ireland? I really don't know.


  • #53
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    5 seconds of thought and 2 minutes research would show how idiotic your statement is. Your choice to be ignorant not mine, I am just calling you on it.

    Well I hope you feel suitably uplifted. It's been a real pleasure chatting with you Ray. x


  • #54
    tylercheribini
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭tylercheribini


    Legs.Eleven wrote: »
    You're an idiot.

    where is the mod on this thread? generally personal insults are not tolerated in any form. :):)


  • #55
    Stainless_Steel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭Stainless_Steel


    Victimless crime IMO. Young lad was delighted to ride her im sure. Some bragging rights to his mates right there.


  • #56
    GenieOz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 892 ✭✭✭GenieOz


    tylercheribini wrote: »
    where is the mod on this thread? generally personal insults are not tolerated in any form. :):)

    There's a report button. Then again it was an extremely stupid comment.


  • #57
    Penny Tration
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    StainlessSteel wrote: »
    Victimless crime IMO. Young lad was delighted to ride her im sure. Some bragging rights to his mates right there.

    Yeah, because adults having sex with kids is grand.

    Ffs. in threads like this with men as the perpetrator, people call for the man to be jailed. It shouldn't be any different because the sexual predator happens to be a woman.

    Victimless crime, my hole.


  • #58
    tylercheribini
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭tylercheribini


    GenieOz wrote: »
    There's a report button. Then again it was an extremely stupid comment.

    cheers for the info buddy.


  • #59
    Dr Turk Turkelton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    Scotty P wrote: »
    I would say there are more female teachers having sex with students than there are male teachers with female ones.

    There are websites dedicated to naming female teachers it's that bad.

    Here is a list that was made last year:

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/12/39783/

    Does anyone know where I could lay my hands on a DeLorean and a flux capacitator?
    I'm on my way Miss H!


  • #60
    tritium
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    Stainless_Steel wrote: »
    Victimless crime IMO. Young lad was delighted to ride her im sure. Some bragging rights to his mates right there.

    Yeah...victimless.... Right.....

    If it was a male teacher would it still be victimless to you?

    If it was a female pupil would it still seem victimless to you?


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  • #61
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    mod:

    freethearmy
    Tzardine
    tylercheribini
    Due to the frankly idiotic nature of your now mostly deleted contributions you have lost the right to continue posting in this thread.
    Do so and you will get banned.

    Folks, lets report the posts and continue the discussion. Any more of the "nice..." type southpark crap, any more "She must be ugly" "lucky kid" crap, well, if you feel like posting that crap do so on your blog. Or twitter. Or carve it onto your face with a rusty compass for all I care. Just so long as I don't have to deal with it.


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