US Embassy claims America invented St Patricks Day"

Fratton Fred · 13-03-2014 04:21PM

everdead.ie wrote: »

I would have thought it was about a celebration of everything Irish?

For reference I have no idea what the story is with the New York Parade but if they wanted to put in a float or some bands or whatever that shouldn't be a problem if they were trying to turn it into a LGBT march than yes I would have a problem with that there are already parades which exclusively handle that issue.

Want to be LGBT and celebrate Ireland than that should be for St Patrick's Day.

I don't see the problem with having a LGBT float in a procession, that doesn't make it a LGBT march.

Let's face it, every parade is a million miles from what St Patrick's day actually is, the feast day of a religious figure.

Fratton Fred · 13-03-2014 04:23PM

GenieOz wrote: »

Not gay rights anyway.

Or American college bands, copious amounts of alcohol and daft leprechaun hats I guess.

Smiles35 · 13-03-2014 04:33PM

P_1 wrote: »

Ah I see, do they cook it the same way we'd cook bacon?

Oh yeah. It's salted like bacon so needs a boil.

13-03-2014 04:37PM

ScumLord wrote: »

So the Americans think they invented a Catholic saint by wearing green jumpers and eating corned beef?

They also captured the Enigma machine and spared the Allied Navy from the German U-boats according to the movie U571. Heroic.

Except that never happened. A party from HMS Bulldog lead by SL David Baume did.

Bipolar Joe · 13-03-2014 04:38PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I don't see the problem with having a LGBT float in a procession, that doesn't make it a LGBT march.

Let's face it, every parade is a million miles from what St Patrick's day actually is, the feast day of a religious figure.

From what I've gathered, it would be kind of like letting an anti-gay marriage float. It's a group with an agenda to push, not a "Celebration of everything Irish" whatever the balls that is.

Caliden · 13-03-2014 04:51PM

Smell Badda wrote: »

It's not the type of sliced corned beef you get in packets or the canned kind. It's a solid lump of meat that you can get from butchers is what's tasty. Story is, it was bacon & cabbage invented here. Becuase it was cheap. But the butchers that sold bacon were hard to find in New York so Beef & Cabbage was born, over there.

I thought they ate corned beef because any Irish that went over there were dirt poor and it was the closest replacement.

Allyall · 13-03-2014 04:53PM

I think they could say they "Amercanized" it, But probably not invented it.

I would have thought that the first parade in America, was Irish People, so they can't really claim that one, can they?

Jimoslimos · 13-03-2014 04:59PM

maximoose wrote: »

Getting drunk and being sick in the streets, duh!

Well if Mardi Gras in Sydney is anything to go by...

Smiles35 · 13-03-2014 04:59PM

Caliden wrote: »

I thought they ate corned beef because any Irish that went over there were dirt poor and it was the closest replacement.

That's probably closer to the truth, beef seems cheaper there. So even if ther was a choice the beef would win.

Edit: Oh, you thought it was the manky stuff they were forced to buy? No, ''bully beef'' being so nice we sing about it would be a terrible story.

MadsL · 13-03-2014 05:17PM

Red Crow wrote: »

They aren't discriminating against anyone. The LGBT groups wanted to turn it into a gay rights march and that's not what St. Patrick's Day is about.

Quite right. It's really about kidnapping slaves from other countries and converting nasty pagans!

MadsL · 13-03-2014 05:23PM

Fantastic trolling by the US Embassy...and they say Americans have no sense of irony.

5 Stars.

donegal. · 13-03-2014 05:25PM

wazky wrote: »

Well their parades are always better anyway.

you've obviously never been to an american st patricks day parade - they're horrendously boring

SpaceTime · 13-03-2014 05:27PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO0lUdQTDuk

To be fair to them, they are showing that the US Embassy gets Irish humour though. It's a fairly good pisstake :P

Just don't attempt to tell the French you invited Bastille Day !!! Or, you'll be getting the bad wine for decades!

Xenophile · 13-03-2014 05:49PM

I have no problems with the USA coming up with the idea of St.Patrick's Day it's just a pity that they did not chose the date of 12th.July so that both traditions could be celebrated on the same day. One day in the far distant future maybe the two traditions can be celebrated with respect and joyfully on the same day, being a realist I realise that may take some time but as their geographical areas are separated there is less opportunity to interfere with each others celebrations.

By the way a much better chance of better weather in July.

SpaceTime · 13-03-2014 05:50PM

From our point of view though it's a *massive* marketing opportunity and it's actually almost bizarre how it's caught on all over the world in some of the most unlikely places.

In general Ireland manages to send out a 'good vibe' most of the time.

We have huge 'soft power' because of that kind of influence, much bigger than we're given credit for in a recent survey done by Monocle, I think which completely overlooked us.

Maybe our 'soft power' is so subtle that it goes undetected :P
Some countries rely on vast arrays of spy satellites and stuff, we just have Irish pubs everywhere ... get the locals drunk and pick up the gossip :P

AllGunsBlazing · 13-03-2014 05:56PM

St.Patrick's Day - when everybody gets to a be a little bit Irish. Except for the gays and the Italians.

SpaceTime · 13-03-2014 05:58PM

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

St.Patrick's Day - when everybody gets to a be a little bit Irish. Except for the gays and the Italians.

Well, only in NYC. You can be as gay or Italian as you like in the Irish parades.

orangesoda · 13-03-2014 06:45PM

They can have st patricks day as long as they give me 3 of their bitches covered in chocolate sauce for the weekend

Lapin · 13-03-2014 06:54PM

paulbok wrote: »

I quite like St Patricks Day.
It usually means that Cheltenham & the 6 nations are over with.

All the more reason to hate it. :mad:

cailinardthair · 13-03-2014 06:54PM

Im going from my childhood here and St. Patrick's day was going to mass, wearing shamrock or the green fabric badge, being able to eat sweets if you were doing lent.

No one in Ireland that I know of eats corned beef and cabbage....its bacon and cabbage with mash and white sauce.
Now I want bacon and cabbage!

Red Nissan · 13-03-2014 07:01PM

I'm bowled over.

An to top it all off sure wasn't that Patrick fella from bleedin England or Wales? :mad::p:pac::pac::pac::pac:

Lapin · 13-03-2014 07:03PM

Xenophile wrote: »

I have no problems with the USA coming up with the idea of St.Patrick's Day it's just a pity that they did not chose the date of 12th.July so that both traditions could be celebrated on the same day.

Oh dear.

Here we go.

asteroth · 13-03-2014 07:23PM

wazky wrote: »

Well their parades are always better anyway.

Their parades suck. Row after row of idiots in kilts and bear-fur hats playing snare drums with some blimp up front walking along with a staff and a sash. Behind them countless more fools just walking and waving.
Next, some police department from Boise, Idaho or fire department from Wichita, Kansas doing the exact same crap.
Not a single float in sight. Not one bit of creativity or mirth or artistry. The little mini parades in small towns around Ireland like Mallow or Ennis are infinitely more interesting, fun and original than the pathetic borefest that I had the misfortune of witnessing once too often as it lumbers up 5th Avenue.

BrokenArrows · 13-03-2014 07:37PM

Well they definitely invented St patty's day and corned beef.

Annasopra · 13-03-2014 07:39PM

sillyoulfool wrote: »

Yup, you read the title correctly, the US embassy in Dublin has released a video claiming that St Patricks Day was "invented" by America!

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/americans-invented-st-patrick-s-day-claim-americans-1.1723637

They have previously claimed to also have invent Halloween (the ancient festival of Sabhan)

I think meant St Pattys day

blueser · 13-03-2014 07:43PM

Red Nissan wrote: »

I'm bowled over.

An to top it all off sure wasn't that Patrick fella from bleedin England or Wales? :mad::p:pac::pac::pac::pac:

He was Welsh, wasn't he?

dirkmeister · 13-03-2014 07:46PM

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

St.Patrick's Day - when everybody gets to a be a little bit Irish. Except for the gays and the Italians.

asteroth · 13-03-2014 07:48PM

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

Yep, they seem to actually enjoy themselves at their parades, not like the sh*t that's put on in the Dublin parade, Oh look, hear comes another pretentiously arty fish or whatever the Hell it's supposed to be. Jesus, there seems to be more art college style stuff in the Dublin parade than anything else, that and American marching bands. I don't even bother to watch it on tv anymore. That obnoxious ginger cow that presents it isn't exactly endearing either.

Ah bollocks, man. You can tell the quality of a parade by a child's reaction to it. 5 minutes into the 5th Avenue parade and any normal kid would be grumbling and itching to get the fcuk away. By comparison, witness the glee and excitement of a kid at a REAL parade where there are floats, acrobatics, clever displays of abseiling action by a rock climbing club or boy scouts, dudes on unicycles, "Oirish" princesses giving random kisses to spectators, etc.
It may only last about an hour and a half but every kid is a bit disappointed when it's over and the crew start moving the barriers.

Knob Longman · 13-03-2014 07:58PM

My friend got arrested for being drunk (Totally Plastered) and chanting IRA IRA on St Patrick's Day before..But it was at Leicester Sq in London and after he got put in the wagon the cops put his big green leprechaun hat back on his head, His brother said the cops were in tears laughing about it, Foreign tourists all amused at it..Even funnier is his name is Patrick too..

Frank Lee Midere · 13-03-2014 10:13PM

They did invent and popularise the parades. Which is what most people think about. Compare with St George's day.

US Embassy claims America invented St Patricks Day"

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