US Embassy claims America invented St Patricks Day"

sillyoulfool · 13-03-2014 1:01pm #1

Yup, you read the title correctly, the US embassy in Dublin has released a video claiming that St Patricks Day was "invented" by America!

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/americans-invented-st-patrick-s-day-claim-americans-1.1723637

They have previously claimed to also have invent Halloween (the ancient festival of Sabhan)

wazky · 13-03-2014 1:02pm

Well their parades are always better anyway.

sillyoulfool · 13-03-2014 1:04pm

wazky wrote: »

Well their parades are always better anyway.

Only if you are into discriminating against gays and lesbians I suppose!:rolleyes:

Lapin · 13-03-2014 1:06pm

The yanks are welcome to it.

I hate St Patrick's Day. :mad:

Its only a drunken paddywhackery cringefest.

Red Crow · 13-03-2014 1:07pm

sillyoulfool wrote: »

Only if you are into discriminating against gays and lesbians I suppose!:rolleyes:

They aren't discriminating against anyone. The LGBT groups wanted to turn it into a gay rights march and that's not what St. Patrick's Day is about.

The Master · 13-03-2014 1:07pm

wazky wrote: »

Well their parades are always better anyway.

Their parades consist of groups of people walking..... and are shit

petes · 13-03-2014 1:15pm

sillyoulfool wrote: »

Only if you are into discriminating against gays and lesbians I suppose!:rolleyes:

Who isn't!

Balmed Out · 13-03-2014 1:17pm

Does the party style of celebrating it rather then just mass not come from emigrants in the USA ?

jester77 · 13-03-2014 1:20pm

Must be a typo, is it not St. Pattys day that they invented?

Pumpkinseeds · 13-03-2014 1:21pm

wazky wrote: »

Well their parades are always better anyway.

Yep, they seem to actually enjoy themselves at their parades, not like the sh*t that's put on in the Dublin parade, Oh look, hear comes another pretentiously arty fish or whatever the Hell it's supposed to be. Jesus, there seems to be more art college style stuff in the Dublin parade than anything else, that and American marching bands. I don't even bother to watch it on tv anymore. That obnoxious ginger cow that presents it isn't exactly endearing either.

P_1 · 13-03-2014 1:22pm

I'd say they invented the mass commercialization of the day alright...

Davarus Walrus · 13-03-2014 1:24pm

I'm still trying to work out how people can use this thread to get a dig in at American foreign policy.

P_1 · 13-03-2014 1:26pm

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

I'm still trying to work out how people can use this thread to get a dig in at American foreign policy.

I'll put the over/under at 25.5 :P

Duggy747 · 13-03-2014 1:47pm

The Master wrote: »

Their parades consist of groups of people walking..... and are shit

I was in the New York parade 10 years ago and that's pretty much it, just walking for ages and ages.

It was cool though to be walking down the huge open road in Manhattan with just an endless amount of people either side of the road cheering.

The highlight was that before the parade, a cop was handing out coffee to people participating in it and was Irishing the fùck out of them with tons of whiskey. When he heard my accent he kept topping me up and asking me to speak in Irish.

The best I could do was "Chuaigh mé go dtí an siopa" and "Póg mo thóin" :pac:

paulbok · 13-03-2014 1:49pm

Lapin wrote: »

The yanks are welcome to it.

I hate St Patrick's Day. :mad:

Its only a drunken paddywhackery cringefest.

I quite like St Patricks Day.
It usually means that Cheltenham & the 6 nations are over with.

tin79 · 13-03-2014 1:52pm

How can you "invent" something 5 ways. Either you do or you don't. Edison didn't invent the light bulb 5 ways, he just invented it.

Foxhound38 · 13-03-2014 1:54pm

Doesn't bother me - they put on far more of a show for it anyway.

And shur wasn't St. Patrick Welsh at the end of the day! :pac:

P_1 · 13-03-2014 1:58pm

So according to the video they gave us.

1 - Parades - ok fair enough
2 - Turning everything green - Green beer? eh thanks but no thanks
3 - Corned beef and cabbage - Does anybody really eat corned beef outside of a sandwich here.
4 - Marching bands - is that not the same as #1?
5 - The keys to the White House - fair enough a guaranteed yearly appointment with POTUS is fairly decent.

And then at the end they withed us a St Patricks Day, before ye release something will ye make sure you've got the translation right will ye!

dan1895 · 13-03-2014 1:59pm

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Doesn't bother me - they put on far more of a show for it anyway.

And shur wasn't St. Patrick Welsh at the end of the day! :pac:

To be shur, to be shur.

Fratton Fred · 13-03-2014 2:03pm

Red Crow wrote: »

They aren't discriminating against anyone. The LGBT groups wanted to turn it into a gay rights march and that's not what St. Patrick's Day is about.

What is it about?

Oranage2 · 13-03-2014 2:14pm

P_1 wrote: »

So according to the video they gave us.

1 - Parades - ok fair enough
2 - Turning everything green - Green beer? eh thanks but no thanks
3 - Corned beef and cabbage - Does anybody really eat corned beef outside of a sandwich here.
4 - Marching bands - is that not the same as #1?
5 - The keys to the White House - fair enough a guaranteed yearly appointment with POTUS is fairly decent.

And then at the end they withed us a St Patricks Day, before ye release something will ye make sure you've got the translation right will ye!

Corned beef is delicious with some spuds and veg.

Smiles35 · 13-03-2014 2:24pm

P_1 wrote: »

3 - Corned beef and cabbage - Does anybody really eat corned beef outside of a sandwich here.

It's not the type of sliced corned beef you get in packets or the canned kind. It's a solid lump of meat that you can get from butchers is what's tasty. Story is, it was bacon & cabbage invented here. Becuase it was cheap. But the butchers that sold bacon were hard to find in New York so Beef & Cabbage was born, over there.

maximoose · 13-03-2014 2:25pm

Fratton Fred wrote: »

What is it about?

Getting drunk and being sick in the streets, duh!

GenieOz · 13-03-2014 2:32pm

Fratton Fred wrote: »

What is it about?

Not gay rights anyway.

everdead.ie · 13-03-2014 2:33pm

Fratton Fred wrote: »

What is it about?

I would have thought it was about a celebration of everything Irish?

For reference I have no idea what the story is with the New York Parade but if they wanted to put in a float or some bands or whatever that shouldn't be a problem if they were trying to turn it into a LGBT march than yes I would have a problem with that there are already parades which exclusively handle that issue.

Want to be LGBT and celebrate Ireland than that should be for St Patrick's Day.

MonstaMash · 13-03-2014 2:34pm

Ruu · 13-03-2014 2:40pm

Just an excuse to beat up the Irish!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqf1d-8IccI

pickarooney · 13-03-2014 3:15pm

tin79 wrote: »

How can you "invent" something 5 ways. Either you do or you don't. Edison didn't invent the light bulb 5 ways, he just invented it.

Yeah, the way he 'invented' everything - by stealing, taking credit, patenting, copying and lying.

P_1 · 13-03-2014 3:17pm

Smell Badda wrote: »

It's not the type of sliced corned beef you get in packets or the canned kind. It's a solid lump of meat that you can get from butchers is what's tasty. Story is, it was bacon & cabbage invented here. Becuase it was cheap. But the butchers that sold bacon were hard to find in New York so Beef & Cabbage was born, over there.

Ah I see, do they cook it the same way we'd cook bacon?

Oafley Jones · 13-03-2014 3:20pm

Well the parades were created by them to get more Irish into the army.

ScumLord · 13-03-2014 3:21pm

So the Americans think they invented a Catholic saint by wearing green jumpers and eating corned beef?

Fratton Fred · 13-03-2014 3:21pm

everdead.ie wrote: »

I would have thought it was about a celebration of everything Irish?

For reference I have no idea what the story is with the New York Parade but if they wanted to put in a float or some bands or whatever that shouldn't be a problem if they were trying to turn it into a LGBT march than yes I would have a problem with that there are already parades which exclusively handle that issue.

Want to be LGBT and celebrate Ireland than that should be for St Patrick's Day.

I don't see the problem with having a LGBT float in a procession, that doesn't make it a LGBT march.

Let's face it, every parade is a million miles from what St Patrick's day actually is, the feast day of a religious figure.

Fratton Fred · 13-03-2014 3:23pm

GenieOz wrote: »

Not gay rights anyway.

Or American college bands, copious amounts of alcohol and daft leprechaun hats I guess.

Smiles35 · 13-03-2014 3:33pm

P_1 wrote: »

Ah I see, do they cook it the same way we'd cook bacon?

Oh yeah. It's salted like bacon so needs a boil.

13-03-2014 3:37pm

ScumLord wrote: »

So the Americans think they invented a Catholic saint by wearing green jumpers and eating corned beef?

They also captured the Enigma machine and spared the Allied Navy from the German U-boats according to the movie U571. Heroic.

Except that never happened. A party from HMS Bulldog lead by SL David Baume did.

Bipolar Joe · 13-03-2014 3:38pm

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I don't see the problem with having a LGBT float in a procession, that doesn't make it a LGBT march.

Let's face it, every parade is a million miles from what St Patrick's day actually is, the feast day of a religious figure.

From what I've gathered, it would be kind of like letting an anti-gay marriage float. It's a group with an agenda to push, not a "Celebration of everything Irish" whatever the balls that is.

Caliden · 13-03-2014 3:51pm

Smell Badda wrote: »

It's not the type of sliced corned beef you get in packets or the canned kind. It's a solid lump of meat that you can get from butchers is what's tasty. Story is, it was bacon & cabbage invented here. Becuase it was cheap. But the butchers that sold bacon were hard to find in New York so Beef & Cabbage was born, over there.

I thought they ate corned beef because any Irish that went over there were dirt poor and it was the closest replacement.

Allyall · 13-03-2014 3:53pm

I think they could say they "Amercanized" it, But probably not invented it.

I would have thought that the first parade in America, was Irish People, so they can't really claim that one, can they?

Jimoslimos · 13-03-2014 3:59pm

maximoose wrote: »

Getting drunk and being sick in the streets, duh!

Well if Mardi Gras in Sydney is anything to go by...

Smiles35 · 13-03-2014 3:59pm

Caliden wrote: »

I thought they ate corned beef because any Irish that went over there were dirt poor and it was the closest replacement.

That's probably closer to the truth, beef seems cheaper there. So even if ther was a choice the beef would win.

Edit: Oh, you thought it was the manky stuff they were forced to buy? No, ''bully beef'' being so nice we sing about it would be a terrible story.

MadsL · 13-03-2014 4:17pm

Red Crow wrote: »

They aren't discriminating against anyone. The LGBT groups wanted to turn it into a gay rights march and that's not what St. Patrick's Day is about.

Quite right. It's really about kidnapping slaves from other countries and converting nasty pagans!

MadsL · 13-03-2014 4:23pm

Fantastic trolling by the US Embassy...and they say Americans have no sense of irony.

5 Stars.

donegal. · 13-03-2014 4:25pm

wazky wrote: »

Well their parades are always better anyway.

you've obviously never been to an american st patricks day parade - they're horrendously boring

SpaceTime · 13-03-2014 4:27pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO0lUdQTDuk

To be fair to them, they are showing that the US Embassy gets Irish humour though. It's a fairly good pisstake :P

Just don't attempt to tell the French you invited Bastille Day !!! Or, you'll be getting the bad wine for decades!

Xenophile · 13-03-2014 4:49pm

I have no problems with the USA coming up with the idea of St.Patrick's Day it's just a pity that they did not chose the date of 12th.July so that both traditions could be celebrated on the same day. One day in the far distant future maybe the two traditions can be celebrated with respect and joyfully on the same day, being a realist I realise that may take some time but as their geographical areas are separated there is less opportunity to interfere with each others celebrations.

By the way a much better chance of better weather in July.

SpaceTime · 13-03-2014 4:50pm

From our point of view though it's a *massive* marketing opportunity and it's actually almost bizarre how it's caught on all over the world in some of the most unlikely places.

In general Ireland manages to send out a 'good vibe' most of the time.

We have huge 'soft power' because of that kind of influence, much bigger than we're given credit for in a recent survey done by Monocle, I think which completely overlooked us.

Maybe our 'soft power' is so subtle that it goes undetected :P
Some countries rely on vast arrays of spy satellites and stuff, we just have Irish pubs everywhere ... get the locals drunk and pick up the gossip :P

AllGunsBlazing · 13-03-2014 4:56pm

St.Patrick's Day - when everybody gets to a be a little bit Irish. Except for the gays and the Italians.

SpaceTime · 13-03-2014 4:58pm

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

St.Patrick's Day - when everybody gets to a be a little bit Irish. Except for the gays and the Italians.

Well, only in NYC. You can be as gay or Italian as you like in the Irish parades.

orangesoda · 13-03-2014 5:45pm

They can have st patricks day as long as they give me 3 of their bitches covered in chocolate sauce for the weekend

Lapin · 13-03-2014 5:54pm

paulbok wrote: »

I quite like St Patricks Day.
It usually means that Cheltenham & the 6 nations are over with.

All the more reason to hate it. :mad:

cailinardthair · 13-03-2014 5:54pm

Im going from my childhood here and St. Patrick's day was going to mass, wearing shamrock or the green fabric badge, being able to eat sweets if you were doing lent.

No one in Ireland that I know of eats corned beef and cabbage....its bacon and cabbage with mash and white sauce.
Now I want bacon and cabbage!

US Embassy claims America invented St Patricks Day"

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