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Irish Rail bans e-cigarettes

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  • #152
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Hilly Bill wrote: »
    It good that they are banned, why should someone breath in fumes that has come out of the mouth of someone else.

    Like carbon dioxide and water vapor Coming out of it already ?


  • #153
    Hilly Bill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    P_1 wrote: »
    For the umpteenth time, smoking and vaping are two totally distinct things

    Vaping banned on trains. Great ;).


  • #154
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,290 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    God the ignorance of some people about a simple piece of technology that allows you to exhale scented air is astounding


  • #155
    DarkJager
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    VinLieger wrote: »
    God the ignorance of some people about a simple piece of technology that allows you to exhale scented air is astounding

    It's infuriating that some people are so thick they can't tell the difference.


  • #156
    Doublelime
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 165 ✭✭Doublelime


    P_1 wrote: »
    For the umpteenth time, smoking and vaping are two totally distinct things
    Yeah vaping that's what I meant... Maybe after there has been some solid scientific evidence that the exhaled vapor does not harm anyone then it should be allowed.


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  • #157
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    DarkJager wrote: »
    It's infuriating that some people are so thick they can't tell the difference.

    Yeah it's the same people sitting outside schools in their SUV's with the engines on waiting for their kid to come out. Not realising they are exposing other peoples children to dangerous fumes. That's apparently fine but scented air ....


  • #158
    Red Crow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,139 ✭✭✭Red Crow


    Some people don't want vapour exhaled in their faces thanks that smells of coffee or caramel thanks.


  • #159
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Doublelime wrote: »
    Yeah vaping that's what I meant... Maybe after there has been some solid scientific evidence that the exhaled vapor does not harm anyone then it should be allowed.

    Some people will choose to ignore any data that goes against their agenda. I mean some people still believe pylons cause cancer.
    Red Crow wrote: »
    Some people don't want vapour exhaled in their faces thanks that smells of coffee or caramel thanks.

    You know food makes your breath smell of what you have eaten as well... And who are these people going out of their way to blow vapor in peoples faces ?


  • #160
    DarkJager
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    Red Crow wrote: »
    Some people don't want vapour exhaled in their faces thanks that smells of coffee or caramel thanks.

    Get over yourself, there's much worse scents you're exposed to on public transport.


  • #161
    mathepac
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭mathepac


    Gongoozler wrote: »
    ... Irish Rail have banned them from their train and DART services ....
    Excellent news.


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  • #162
    cordni
    Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭cordni


    I have never got a smell from vapour. Not sure where all these claims of smells come from.


  • #163
    Carawaystick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    Tiddlypeeps wrote: »

    Perfume is a chemical. We have all stood next to someone on public transport that seems to have thought it was a good idea to wear half a bottle. This is not banned.
    However, some of the ingredients in Perfume are being banned by the EU as a few people are allergic to them. IÉ don't seem to mind this though....


    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/13/lk-perfume-eu-idUSL5N0LI4BQ20140213


  • #164
    Senna
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    The liquid in e-cigarettes contains dihydrogen monoxide and that's a fact, do you really want to run the risk of that being breathed in by your children.
    Ban them now.


  • #165
    P_1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Doublelime wrote: »
    Yeah vaping that's what I meant... Maybe after there has been some solid scientific evidence that the exhaled vapor does not harm anyone then it should be allowed.

    Ingredients found in exhaled vapour.

    Nicotine - I think I've already explained how negligible an amount is exhaled.
    Flavouring - Passes the same standards that food flavourings does. You'd have as much to fear from somebody exhaling after taking a bite from a muffin.
    PG and VG - Commonly found in bottled water. Do you fear for your health after somebody exhales after taking a sip of Ballygowan?


  • #166
    despot
    Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭despot


    They should be banned in public places. Speaking as someone who used one for some time, I only smoked it where I would've smoked cigarettes. As opinion shared by many people I met who used them. Mainly because I didn't want the hassle of "whats that what are you doing???" but also because before I got mine I saw people smoking them walking around shopping centres and such and just thought they looked like tossers.

    If you're that desperate to smoke an e-cig that you need to do it walking around dunnes stores or in a cafe then you can stop fooling yourself that you gave up anything.

    Edit; Before anyone tries to reply with DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SMOKING AND VAPING yes, I do. I don't see why people want to do it where they wouldn't smoke a cigarette however. Especially ex smokers.


  • #167
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Senna wrote: »
    The liquid in e-cigarettes contains dihydrogen monoxide and that's a fact, do you really want to run the risk of that being breathed in by your children.
    Ban them now.

    I see what you did there :P


  • #168
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭ [Deleted User]


    You know who I hate. People who vape in cinemas. Dickheads


  • #169
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,777 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    You know who I hate. People who vape in cinemas. Dickheads

    This is why the same laws as cigarettes need to be applied.


  • #170
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    kippy wrote: »
    This is why the same laws as cigarettes need to be applied.

    Why ? they are not cigarettes.


  • #171
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,777 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Why ? they are not cigarettes.

    Because its as ignorant a habit as smoking.
    Ive seen people in lectures vaping. Idiots.


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  • #172
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    kippy wrote: »
    Because its as ignorant a habit as smoking.
    Ive seen people in lectures vaping. Idiots.

    One has been medically proven to be really bad for you.

    The other with all current reports has zero to little if any affect on anyone breathing it in.

    And who are they hurting ? or do you have information saying they have health implications ? And the habit part is a bit petty I don't do it so you cant either.


  • #173
    mardybumbum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,939 ✭✭✭mardybumbum


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    One has been medically proven to be really bad for you.

    The other with all current reports has zero to little if any affect on anyone breathing it in.

    And who are they hurting ? or do you have information saying they have health implications ? And the habit part is a bit petty i don't do it so you cant either.

    The onus is on the vapers to prove otherwise.


  • #174
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,777 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    One has been medically proven to be really bad for you.

    The other with all current reports has zero to little if any affect on anyone breathing it in.

    And who are they hurting ? or do you have information saying they have health implications ?
    I have a problem with someone vaping an unknown (to me) substance. Thats one issue. Secondary issue is simple manners.


  • #175
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    mardybumbum wrote: »
    The onus is on the vapers to prove otherwise.

    The cry of the "Think of the children" brigade how about the other way around ?


  • #176
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    kippy wrote: »
    I have a problem with someone vaping an unknown (to me) substance. Thats one issue. Secondary issue is simple manners.

    Needlessly obtuse.

    As disgusting as smoking?

    Catch a clue before the train leaves.


  • #177
    P_1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    mardybumbum wrote: »
    The onus is on the vapers to prove otherwise.

    The individual components have been proven to be safe on countless occasions. Logic dictates that the sum of the parts should also prove to be safe and recent studies have indeed suggested that they are safe to use.

    What more do you want?


  • #178
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    kippy wrote: »
    I have a problem with someone vaping an unknown (to me) substance. Thats one issue. Secondary issue is simple manners.

    By that logic you don't eat out as you don't know exactly what is in the meal you are being served.


  • #179
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,777 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    dr.bollocko wrote: »
    Needlessly obtuse.

    As disgusting as smoking?

    Catch a clue before the train leaves.

    Are you trying to put words in my mouth.....thats not at all what I said.


  • #180
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,777 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    By that logic you don't eat out as you don't know exactly what is in the meal you are being served.
    Its not at all the same logic.


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  • #181
    mardybumbum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,939 ✭✭✭mardybumbum


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    The cry of the "Think of the children" brigade how about the other way around ?

    When you structure your sentence in a grammatically correct fashion then I may be able to answer what I assume is a question. It makes no sense to me currently.


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