Players who will NEVER win a major

FixdePitchmark · 10-03-2014 02:07AM

I'd say Rory will win one this year.

galwaylad14 · 10-03-2014 02:11AM

Joe Doe wrote: »

Can I be controversial? And say that nice fellow RoryMc will be a long time before winning his next major.

...Don't get me wrong I do like the fellow and all he has achieved to date is simply superb.

But the reasoning behind this is simply and purely based on something he said post-match on tv last year which was along the lines of "I'm gonna start treating golf more like a business from now on". And well ever since then things haven't been great for him.

Now if you turn your passion and talent into a balance sheet and become concerned with how much your bottom line cash-flow churn can generate for you and how much your new sponsors will pay, surely this is slightly in conflict with (most peoples) integrity.

Did Jimi Hendrix, Pablo Picasso or Maradona primarily focus on the moola or did they perfrom their art for arts sake, and to the best of their ability i.e. to push themselves to the limit, irrelevant of the path to maximum cashflow.

Would you be prepared to put your money where your mouth is with this prediction?

bobwilliams · 10-03-2014 02:14AM

Joe Doe wrote: »

Can I be controversial? And say that nice fellow RoryMc will be a long time before winning his next major.

...Don't get me wrong I do like the fellow and all he has achieved to date is simply superb.

But the reasoning behind this is simply and purely based on something he said post-match on tv last year which was along the lines of "I'm gonna start treating golf more like a business from now on". And well ever since then things haven't been great for him.

explain please.

Joe Doe · 10-03-2014 02:38AM

Well is ranked 6th I think, where based on his potential talent should place at 1st/2nd. Now it may even have been 2yr ago when I heard that phrase (see earlier), and there was a slump, problems with new clubs and some crash n burns ever since then

Recently slipped up on the Honda Classic (I didn't back him into final round) instead got good prices on the other 3 leaders e.g. Russell Henley at 28/1 (thats were the money/mouth went) etc... on the backs of my regular 4/5-way accumulators - even while Rory was 3/1 fav. ~ Reasoning: He has a slight tendency to blow it when under pressure.

Sure he will finish top 6 or 10 for rest of the year, likely some 'missing the cut' and 'maybe' even a win (once), but money will be elsewhere on higher prices/value

The point is 'you should do whatever you do with your heart and soul, not with your wallet at forefront of your mind'.

PARlance · 10-03-2014 02:45AM

Joe Doe wrote: »

Can I be controversial? And say that nice fellow RoryMc will be a long time before winning his next major.

...Don't get me wrong I do like the fellow and all he has achieved to date is simply superb.

But the reasoning behind this is simply and purely based on something he said post-match on tv last year which was along the lines of "I'm gonna start treating golf more like a business from now on". And well ever since then things haven't been great for him.

Now if you turn your passion and talent into a balance sheet and become concerned with how much your bottom line cash-flow churn can generate for you and how much your new sponsors will pay, surely this is slightly in conflict with (most peoples) integrity.

Did Jimi Hendrix, Pablo Picasso or Maradona primarily focus on the moola or did they perfrom their art for arts sake, and to the best of their ability i.e. to push themselves to the limit, irrelevant of the path to maximum cashflow.

Wow! That's a fairly epic post.
Jimi, Picasso, Maradona... Mmmh, maybe Rory needs to get onto some class A's.

I am sure Rory said he was hungry at some stage last year, for that reason I believe he will develop an eating disorder, gain 12 stone and never win another major.

What's a bottom line cash flow churn?

He may have a bit of a wait for his next major but I don't think the lack of an heroin addiction, or him overdosing on series of the Apprentice, will be the reasons.

bobwilliams · 10-03-2014 02:45AM

Time for bed Joe,you've had a drink...yes?

Link to Rorys quote pls,I'm guessing he meant he was going to dedicate himself more,he is fitter that ever.
He has so much power harnessing that speed consistantly is the only real problem he has(oh and his putts do get pushed a bit)

Ur not a golfer Joe are you?

PARlance · 10-03-2014 02:57AM

Hey Joe,

Light up another one

http://youtu.be/TcYOy6I6OR8

Joe Doe · 10-03-2014 02:57AM

golfer, no. Win a lot of accumulators, yes.

Was hoping someone else could recall that quote also, the contents did remark along the lines of "going to start treating this game more like a proper business". Was after tournament 1/2yrs ago and since then he's still been good, but nowhere like the form previous to that date. Once I heard it knew instantly this isn't the ideal perspective for talent to view itself. (Whether your an artist/sportstar/musician or anyone who has god given talent). Surely you play the game for the love of the game as the 1st objective? Money should be 2nd.

Again the point is he's good, sure. Would treating the game more like a game and less like a business make him better?
Possibly so.

h2005 · 10-03-2014 03:11AM

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

And another - I don't like some of these lads - but he will win one.

Don`t see it. He`s the biggest bottle job in the sport.

The_Kew_Tour · 10-03-2014 03:19AM

Anybody fancy a non Major winner to win one in next 2-3 years?

Jason Day obvious standout

Think Patrick Reed has proved he has what it takes.

Joost Luiten is a guy starting to play well in Europe and some nice stuff in States.

There is few more but I reckon 1 of them will win a major in next few years

big shout on last 2 but sure never know

AngeGal · 10-03-2014 03:21AM

As we've seen in the past when McIlroy turns it on, no-one lives with him. I think he'll win a major this year and I really hope it's one he wins playing average (by his standards) and grinding out a one shot victory rather than another 8 stroke breeze. If he could get into the habit of winning when not at his best, there's really no telling what he could do.

ForeRight · 10-03-2014 09:15AM

It's astounding that people think Rory won't win another major.
He has played ok this year so far bar 9 holes last Sunday.

He has been there or there abouts each time he's played and he is yet to even play near his best for a full tournament. When he does he will not be beat.

Rory at 80% is better than nearly the whole field at 100%

It's far more likely tiger will not win another one IMO.

I think there's more chance of Rory winning another 5-6 than tiger winning 1.

Milkers · 10-03-2014 09:29AM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Anybody fancy a non Major winner to win one in next 2-3 years?

Jason Day obvious standout

Think Patrick Reed has proved he has what it takes.

Joost Luiten is a guy starting to play well in Europe and some nice stuff in States.

There is few more but I reckon 1 of them will win a major in next few years

big shout on last 2 but sure never know

Jordan Spieth

PARlance · 10-03-2014 10:04AM

I wouldn't have said this 6 months ago but I think Rickki Fowler may win one over the next few years.

Have went from not liking him to being a bit of a fan. Probably down to the haircut

between his hair and hunters smig going both resulting in me changing my "liking" of them, I'm really looking at the important things

Joking aside, Fowler has done serious work on his swing with Butch of late and I think he'll finally start to deliver on some of his early promise.
Orange and the green jacket mightn't go, but I fancy him for a US Open in the next few years.

FixdePitchmark · 10-03-2014 10:49AM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Anybody fancy a non Major winner to win one in next 2-3 years?

Jason Day obvious standout

Think Patrick Reed has proved he has what it takes.

Joost Luiten is a guy starting to play well in Europe and some nice stuff in States.

There is few more but I reckon 1 of them will win a major in next few years

big shout on last 2 but sure never know

I'd say Day will win one , if he doesn't get in his own way.

FixdePitchmark · 10-03-2014 10:51AM

PARlance wrote: »

I wouldn't have said this 6 months ago but I think Rickki Fowler may win one over the next few years.

Have went from not liking him to being a bit of a fan. Probably down to the haircut between his hair and hunters smig going both resulting in me changing my "liking" of them, I'm really looking at the important things

Joking aside, Fowler has done serious work on his swing with Butch of late and I think he'll finally start to deliver on some of his early promise.
Orange and the green jacket mightn't go, but I fancy him for a US Open in the next few years.

You do that a bit PARlance - is your judgement of people poor :P;)

FixdePitchmark · 10-03-2014 10:53AM

ForeRight wrote: »

It's astounding that people think Rory won't win another major.
He has played ok this year so far bar 9 holes last Sunday.

He has been there or there abouts each time he's played and he is yet to even play near his best for a full tournament. When he does he will not be beat.

Rory at 80% is better than nearly the whole field at 100%

It's far more likely tiger will not win another one IMO.

I think there's more chance of Rory winning another 5-6 than tiger winning 1.

I think Rory is a bit too up and down - but he will grow out of that.

He will win many of his majors by record margins.
I'm talking 5, 6, 7 shots sort of thing.

Osgoodisgood · 10-03-2014 10:59AM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Anybody fancy a non Major winner to win one in next 2-3 years?

23 of the last 40 majors have been won by first timers. Take out Woods and Mickelson and its 23 out of 30.
As someone said earlier they're all good players and it only takes a good week to win.

FixdePitchmark · 10-03-2014 11:01AM

Osgoodisgood wrote: »

23 of the last 40 majors have been won by first timers. Take out Woods and Mickelson and its 23 out of 30.
As someone said earlier they're all good players and it only takes a good week to win.

That is it above.

Even these lads that are chokers - there are some , if everything is right they will pick one up.
And once you have one - it is so much easier to do it again.

PARlance · 10-03-2014 11:11AM

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

You do that a bit PARlance - is your judgement of people poor :P;)

I'm fairly "fixed" in my opinions of people normally. But them cutting their locks may be the key to unlocking my much sought after acceptance for the tour pro

See you at 3pm. PW or 9i?

FixdePitchmark · 10-03-2014 11:20AM

PARlance wrote: »

I'm fairly "fixed" in my opinions of people normally. But them cutting their locks may be the key to unlocking my much sought after acceptance for the tour pro

See you at 3pm. PW or 9i?

Sadly at 8 deg Celsius , it is a 9.5 iron .

Remove all doubt - hit Hybrid.

nomunnnofun · 10-03-2014 02:03PM

shane 007 wrote: »

Yes, Daly won 2 but IMO I don't think he shoud have. At the time, if I can remember correctly he was in his wild spell & if clean, he could have achieved so much more. Compared to the commitment of others that is.
I forgot about Norman winning as my memory of him was always of him losing out to Faldo in Augusta.
I think memory see saws with excitement. The days I get excited the less I remember. Must be an age thing....

That's because the blood rushes from your brain to somewhere else !!!:pac:

Dolph Starbeam · 10-03-2014 04:49PM

I think people get confused with Greg Norman because there is always a lot of talk of how he never won The Masters, came 2nd 3 times though.

Very hard to say who won't win one, I can't see Westwood, Poulter or Donald win one but I can see Garcia winning one. Its impossible to know, I'm sure one of the Englishmen will click at the right time and win one.

Redzah · 10-03-2014 07:10PM

YayaBanana wrote: »

I think people get confused with Greg Norman because there is always a lot of talk of how he never won The Masters, came 2nd 3 times though.

Very hard to say who won't win one, I can't see Westwood, Poulter or Donald win one but I can see Garcia winning one. Its impossible to know, I'm sure one of the Englishmen will click at the right time and win one.

Yeah, but most of those in the know are fully aware that he was one of the best golfers ever. He was world number one for 331 weeks. He bottled it at the masters and a few other times but when you look at his record and talent compared to say the young pretender Rory McIlroy then Rory has a lot of work to do just to equal Norman as a golf legend let alone overtake him.

Those will will never win a major for me are;

Luke Donald
Lee Westwood
Ian Poulter
Ricky Fowler
Hunter Mahan
Sergio Garcia

Ones I fancy to win their first over the next few years include;

Jason Day
Dustin Johnson
Jonas Blixt
Henrik Stenson
Peter Uilhein

Russman · 10-03-2014 07:17PM

Very hard to predict.
The strength in depth is so good now that we could have first time winners for the majority of the next 20 Majors. There's birdie making machines coming through and so many of them that they make it very hard to see some of the old timers plodding their way to a major. Strictly IMO of course.

So at a total guess and because I'm in that kind of dismissive mood.....:D

Westwood - will not win one. Short game not good enough and too old.
Poulter - will not win one. Simply not good enough or long enough. Despite his Ryder Cup brilliance.
Donald - might pick one up, but I doubt it. He's lacking "something". His short game might let him sneak a PGA under the radar.
Garcia - will somehow get a US Open I think. He has that x factor that, on his day, can blow a field away. Unfortunately his "on" days are few and far between, so who knows.

Here's one: Adam Scott won't win another major. Not that he needs to, he can use the Champion's Locker Room.

ForeRight · 10-03-2014 07:25PM

I'd have to strongly disagree about Adam Scott.
He has a fantastic controlled game and is totally gearing his game and schedule around majors these days. Has won one and then went very very close again.
I think he will be contending strongly down the stretch again this year in more than one.

Russman · 10-03-2014 07:32PM

You could well be right.
He just doesn't seem to put tournaments away the way he could/should IMO.
Then again that could be just golf and the nature of the sport.

I'm just playing devils advocate, he's a superb player of course, but I still think he'll finish up with one major. He has 8 left before the anchoring ban, it'll be interesting......

Rikand · 10-03-2014 07:33PM

Scott will either win one this year or never again, because once they ban his putter, he'll be done for!

Arsenium · 11-03-2014 11:35AM

Rikand wrote: »

Scott will either win one this year or never again, because once they ban his putter, he'll be done for!

I was always a fan of Adam Scotts but that bloody putter he uses drives me nuts. I cant wait till he has to go back to a regular putter and maybe I can root for him again. He has such a great all round game. He must still have nightmares about that tee shot on 18 at Lytham.

Anatom · 11-03-2014 12:32PM

I'd love to see Shane Lowry put four decent rounds together in a Major. It won't happen in Augusta - I don't think he has the game for 72 holes around there - but perhaps in an Open someday...

Players who will NEVER win a major

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