Players who will NEVER win a major

flashjohn · 09-03-2014 08:54PM #1

Lee Westwood

FixdePitchmark · 09-03-2014 08:58PM

I think a bit like Darren , Lee will win one.

flashjohn · 09-03-2014 08:59PM

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

I think a bit like Darren , Lee will win one.

He is like Monty, bags it on the big stage

PARlance · 09-03-2014 09:01PM

Most of us on here...

Deeper Blue · 09-03-2014 09:19PM

Westwood's chance has come and gone imo, can't see him winning one now

FixdePitchmark · 09-03-2014 09:23PM

Le Requin wrote: »

Westwood's chance has come and gone imo, can't see him winning one now

Sure everyone said that about Clarke.

flashjohn · 09-03-2014 09:24PM

Poulter, Donald

FixdePitchmark · 09-03-2014 09:26PM

Like I can say 100 s of players that will never win a major.
But it is s dangerous game to pick a player that has won nearly 40 times around the world.

There are very average players who won majors.
There are fantastic players who haven't.

shane 007 · 09-03-2014 09:32PM

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

There are very average players who won majors.
There are fantastic players who haven't.

Completely agree.
Who'd have thought John Daly would win one!
And poor ol' Greg blocked so many times too who certainly deserved one.

cormacjones · 09-03-2014 09:37PM

shane 007 wrote: »

Completely agree.
Who'd have thought John Daly would win one!
And poor ol' Greg blocked so many times too who certainly deserved one.

Daly won two majors, as did Greg Norman.

m r c · 09-03-2014 09:37PM

shane 007 wrote: »

Completely agree.
Who'd have thought John Daly would win one!
And poor ol' Greg blocked so many times too who certainly deserved one.

The British open/open championship still counts as a major :-)
He won it twice

FixdePitchmark · 09-03-2014 09:37PM

shane 007 wrote: »

Completely agree.
Who'd have thought John Daly would win one!
And poor ol' Greg blocked so many times too who certainly deserved one.

John Daly was a fantastic golfer
and
Greg won 2 and should have won 7 or 8.

It is rare you have an average golfer who wins 2.

flashjohn · 09-03-2014 09:43PM

The problem is that when pressure in is on, some dont handle it. The British media heap pressure on their boys where as in Irish media are diff, suppose you could draw parallels with England footbal team?

Deeper Blue · 09-03-2014 09:52PM

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Sure everyone said that about Clarke.

That's true. I don't think he looks the same player since he went full time on the PGA tour though. With the career he's had he probably deserves a major to be fair. He really should have won the Open in 09 and I doubt he'll ever get a better chance.

Deeper Blue · 09-03-2014 09:54PM

shane 007 wrote: »

Completely agree.
Who'd have thought John Daly would win one!
And poor ol' Greg blocked so many times too who certainly deserved one.

Not sure if serious. Quality player, should have won more if anything.

FixdePitchmark · 09-03-2014 09:54PM

flashjohn wrote: »

The problem is that when pressure in is on, some dont handle it. The British media heap pressure on their boys where as in Irish media are diff, suppose you could draw parallels with England footbal team?

But I guess hype is relative to expectations - The Irish with a sniff of a win in anything are the biggest hype merchants going.

World Cups
Rugby
Olympics
Tiddleywinks

I don't mean to be the Devil's advocate - but it is a bit populist to say Monty wasn't good enough or Lee will not win one.

They are Premier League compared to

Rose
Cink
Glover
Curtis
Campbell
Hamilton

Monty and Westwood are maybe in the top 20 - 30 golfers any of us on here have ever seen. Certainly for lads under 40.

I like to see the best players pick up majors - hopefully Lee gets one.
The Same lads would be downing pints to a Ryder Cup if the 2 lads above were in it - going " Isn't that pure class loike"

Eaglebridie 32 · 09-03-2014 09:55PM

Garcia !

FixdePitchmark · 09-03-2014 09:57PM

Eaglebridie 32 wrote: »

Garcia !

And another - I don't like some of these lads - but he will win one.

shane 007 · 09-03-2014 10:04PM

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

John Daly was a fantastic golfer
and
Greg won 2 and should have won 7 or 8.

It is rare you have an average golfer who wins 2.

Yes, Daly won 2 but IMO I don't think he shoud have. At the time, if I can remember correctly he was in his wild spell & if clean, he could have achieved so much more. Compared to the commitment of others that is.
I forgot about Norman winning as my memory of him was always of him losing out to Faldo in Augusta.
I think memory see saws with excitement. The days I get excited the less I remember. Must be an age thing....

flashjohn · 09-03-2014 10:07PM

Isn't the point that the guys who won deserved it and the guys who didn't win didn't deserve it?

FixdePitchmark · 09-03-2014 10:13PM

flashjohn wrote: »

Isn't the point that the guys who won deserved it and the guys who didn't win didn't deserve it?

Yes they deserved it that week - they go down in history.
But timing and luck play a part for some. I think it is a regret for a career , but there is more to a golf career than majors

At times The Open Championship is a lottery - even the draw on day 1 and 2 can be a big factor.

But - to simplify to deserve - they both deserve multiple majors.

Benicetomonty · 09-03-2014 10:15PM

Montgomerie dominated Europe for 7 years; the only thing more astonishing than the fact he hasnt won a major is that he hasnt won an official tournament in America.Winged Foot in 06 must still torture him, not because it would have disqualified him from the 'best player never to have won a major' list, but because it would have earned him a semblance of the respect he deserves from audiences across the pond.

Having said that, he had his chance and blew it, so Id have serious doubts that Westwood wont folllow suit in that regard. Muirfield was bitterly disappointing from Westy, not least because I had money on him. His game cracked under the pressure, simple as.

Poulter is also a concern. His grandstanding on 18 at Birkdale after holing a 12 footer for a par and an eventual 4 shot deficit to P Harrington shows a distinct lack of understanding as to what it takes to actually win a major

Donald and Garcia have had a few knocks, but at least they still have good will on their sides. Dustin Johnston really should win a major but hes another man who seems to dislike pressure...

Osgoodisgood · 09-03-2014 10:36PM

shane 007 wrote: »

I forgot about Norman winning as my memory of him was always of him losing out to Faldo in Augusta.

That's a shame because he really should be remembered as a champion. FWIW he won the same number of majors as Tony Jacklin, Johnny Miller, Ben Crenshaw, Bernhard Langer and a few other big names.

AngeGal · 09-03-2014 10:36PM

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Tiddleywinks

I don't mean to be the Devil's advocate - but it is a bit populist to say Monty wasn't good enough or Lee will not win one.

They are Premier League compared to

Rose
Cink
Glover
Curtis
Campbell
Hamilton

I don't think Rose belongs on that list or at a minimum, he won't by the end of his career when he'll be a multiple major champion in my opinion.

shane 007 · 09-03-2014 10:45PM

Osgoodisgood wrote: »

That's a shame because he really should be remembered as a champion.

Don't worry. I found out tonight I won't be cut for my good play today & his majors all came back to me!

finix · 09-03-2014 10:49PM

Cant see Harrington ever winning another one. He over analyses' himself too much !

cormacjones · 09-03-2014 11:14PM

Monty definitely deserved to win a major for all he did in golf, but his record in the actual majors is really, really poor.

He never contended in the Open (he was second one year, but never under pressure as Tiger romped home).

Never contended at Augusta - granted that course was never going to suite his fade.

Contended once at the PGA.

US OPEN really suited him. - he should have won at least twice

Never won a WGC.

The_Kew_Tour · 10-03-2014 01:00AM

We could very well be talking about Harrington here. Remember he made mess really of 18th at Carnouiste although was great chip to save for bogey. Had Garcia got his putt on 18 we could very well have seen Garcia on 3 majors and Harrington on none.

Fair play to Harrington, took his chance and really deserved his Double major wins in 2008.

Regarding the question. Very hard to know. I still think 2 from Garcia, Westwood and Donald will win one. But I think one if not 2 of these players will miss out.

Love see Garcia win one personally but his putting has so let him down.

Really tough question to answer as all a top class Golfer needs is one very good week which all are capable of.

Arsenium · 10-03-2014 01:37AM

Extremely tough question. The amount of people I have met who claim greg Norman never won a major is amazing.

But to answer the question I would say Garcia. I always think he "gets in his own way" to re use a phrase. And after his decision making at sawgrass last year on 17 I doubt he has what's needed on the back 9 of a major to close it out. Which is a shame.

I also agree with an earlier post defending Rose. With that swing, a major and a wgc I can see him adding another.

bobwilliams · 10-03-2014 01:58AM

this has come up mant times here.
Why do people go on about Monty etc never winning a major,there are only 4 per year.
For every Monty,there's a Tod Hamilton,if it's so hard to win one how come Shaun Michel,Darren Clarke etc have won 1.

A lot of luck is required as much as anything,anyone who says Westwood/Garcia will never win one will probably be proved correct bot only because odds are against them.

You can also win one almost by default by posting a great score and no one ends up catching you,there are many ways to win one but there are so many factors at play i think one the most important of those is luck.

Joe Doe · 10-03-2014 02:03AM

Can I be controversial? And say that nice fellow RoryMc will be a long time before winning his next major.

...Don't get me wrong I do like the fellow and all he has achieved to date is simply superb.

But the reasoning behind this is simply and purely based on something he said post-match on tv last year which was along the lines of "I'm gonna start treating golf more like a business from now on". And well ever since then things haven't been great for him.

Now if you turn your passion and talent into a balance sheet and become concerned with how much your bottom line cash-flow churn can generate for you and how much your new sponsors will pay, surely this is slightly in conflict with (most peoples) integrity.

Did Jimi Hendrix, Pablo Picasso or Maradona primarily focus on the moola or did they perfrom their art for arts sake, and to the best of their ability i.e. to push themselves to the limit, irrelevant of the path to maximum cashflow.

Players who will NEVER win a major

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