Would you support the reintroduction of the death penalty?

end of the road · 20-01-2014 09:46PM

Mr Williams wrote: »

Sometimes the law is wrong.

yeah, agree, sometimes it is, but not in the case of vidulanty vermin

Mr Williams wrote: »

The law also released larry murphy into the community.

sure, he shouldn't have been released, but he was, so get over it

Mr Williams wrote: »

In some cases people need to forgot the law and do whats right.

if your talking about something like protesting against a corrupt dictator who has banned protests, then i agree with you, if its murdering people, then no.

Mr Williams wrote: »

Those of us with kids can not allow these sex beasts to live in our community.

well allow them you will, their going to go somewhere, keep an eye on your kids instead of expecting everyone else to do so and then maybe you should have any problems

Mr Williams · 20-01-2014 09:48PM

end of the road wrote: »

lol, he didn't care about his community, his sort don't care about their community either, its all about inflating their ego, thankfully they fail

How do you know that ? I think his actions speak louder than words.

Mr Williams · 20-01-2014 09:52PM

end of the road wrote: »

well allow them you will, their going to go somewhere, keep an eye on your kids instead of expecting everyone else to do so and then maybe you should have any problems

So you blame a parent for when a child goes missing and not the pervert that took them ?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 20-01-2014 10:14PM

Mr Williams wrote: »

Sometimes the law is wrong....

Certain pedophiles use the same excuse.

While the law may be (and probably is in this case) wrong, your argument falls because of the assumption that any alternative (specifically vigilanteism - or the death peanlty, to bring this back on topic) is therefore, automatically right.

zcorpian88 · 21-01-2014 04:21AM

No, It's just a ridiculous quick fix to not building enough prisons.

More prisons and much longer sentences. Our justice system is beyond a joke.

J_E · 21-01-2014 05:46AM

zcorpian88 wrote: »

No, It's just a ridiculous quick fix to not building enough prisons.

More prisons and much longer sentences. Our justice system is beyond a joke.

Yeah, build more prisons and then end up like the US where it becomes a profit to jail more people and have them work for nothing. Great idea.

osarusan · 21-01-2014 06:09AM

Cydoniac wrote: »

Yeah, build more prisons and then end up like the US where it becomes a profit to jail more people and have them work for nothing. Great idea.

That's not what they said at all.

More prisons doesn't have to lead to that outcome.

old hippy · 21-01-2014 01:11PM

Mr Williams wrote: »

Apologies for not writing back sooner my laptop packed up over the christmas.

I would rather have wheelie bin man living in my area than a sex beast.

Wheelie bin man sounds like a civically minded individual who was trying to protect his community.

He's nothing of the sort. He's a murderer.

Mr Williams wrote: »

Sometimes the law is wrong. The law also released larry murphy into the community. In some cases people need to forgot the law and do whats right. Those of us with kids can not allow these sex beasts to live in our community.

Yeah, just forget about that old law thing, go out and murder people :rolleyes:

It's the civil thing to do.

Holsten · 21-01-2014 02:09PM

osarusan wrote: »

That's not what they said at all.

More prisons doesn't have to lead to that outcome.

Doesn't have to but it has happened in the USA. These prisons need to be full for them to make a profit, so people are near forced back into them.

And longer sentencing does nothing to help crime. At all. If anything it makes crime worse.

Mr Williams · 08-03-2014 04:21PM

Can anyone here from the human rights brigade give me one good reason why this child rapist animal in athlone should not be put down ?

Every his own girlfriend said he should be put in a gas chamber.

http://www.thesun.ie/irishsol/homepage/news/5487081/Put-him-in-the-gas-chamber-Fury-of-caged-child-rape-beasts-ex-girlfriend.html

THE monster who raped two girls aged six and nine should be killed with poison gas, an ex-girlfriend of his says.

She told the Irish Sun: “There should be a death penalty for this — two little kids’ lives ruined.” The evil dad of two was given two life terms on Monday over the sickening attacks in Athlone last year.
Speaking from her west of Ireland home, his former partner said: “It is a shocking crime. They should bring in the gas chamber for things like that. I never thought he was capable of anything like that.
“Prison is too good for him.”

end of the road · 08-03-2014 04:36PM

Mr Williams wrote: »

Can anyone here from the human rights brigade give me one good reason why this child rapist animal in athlone should not be put down ?

Every his own girlfriend said he should be put in a gas chamber.

http://www.thesun.ie/irishsol/homepage/news/5487081/Put-him-in-the-gas-chamber-Fury-of-caged-child-rape-beasts-ex-girlfriend.html

no point in bringing up a dying thread, nothing you will say will change the minds of those of us who don't support a backward outdated punishment that does nothing, has failed, and is to risky to implament, now thats all i'l say on the matter.

Mr Williams · 08-03-2014 05:21PM

end of the road wrote: »

no point in bringing up a dying thread, nothing you will say will change the minds of those of us who don't support a backward outdated punishment that does nothing, has failed, and is to risky to implament, now thats all i'l say on the matter.

Backward ? thats right we should just let these sex beasts run wild in the community because it would be against their "human rights" to shoot them.

looking_around · 08-03-2014 06:16PM

Mr Williams wrote: »

Backward ? thats right we should just let these sex beasts run wild in the community because it would be against their "human rights" to shoot them.

No, they shouldn't be allowed to roam, I all for ankle wireless braceletts/shared-watched 'home'. Where they can still have a job but where/when they are is monitored.

don't know if that would potentially be more or less cost affective than prison, but death isn't the way to go either.

Maybe in time we'll learn enough about the brain to place a chip that zaps them if they think about/do something.

Basically, punishments need to change, but forwards, not backwards.

Mr Williams · 08-03-2014 06:37PM

looking_around wrote: »

Where they can still have a job but where/when they are is monitored.

Would you not agree that animal in athlone should never be let back into the community ?

I think people like your self are far too soft on these animals. In my opinion once someone rapes a child they should get the death penalty end of story.

The problem is that the sex beast in athlone will probably not serve anymore than 15 years in prison. Then he will be free to do the same thing all over again. If we had the death penalty it would stop these beasts from ever harming another child.

end of the road · 08-03-2014 06:40PM

Mr Williams wrote: »

Would you not agree that animal in athlone should never be let back into the community ?

I think people like your self are far too soft on these animals. In my opinion once someone rapes a child they should get the death penalty end of story.

The problem is that the sex beast in athlone will probably not serve anymore than 15 years in prison. Then he will be free to do the same thing all over again. If we had the death penalty it would stop these beasts from ever harming another child.

so would locking them up for life, now stop wasting everyones time coming out with daily mail style rabel rabel and let this thread dye

Hootanany · 08-03-2014 07:49PM

Yes for anyone with more than 30 convictions because they will never learn so get rid I say. Save an awful lot of time and money.

cometogether · 08-03-2014 08:54PM

Hootanany wrote: »

Yes for anyone with more than 30 convictions because they will never learn so get rid I say. Save an awful lot of time and money.

False on the money front, in America at least it costs more to execute somebody then to lock them up for life

Mr Williams · 08-03-2014 09:13PM

cometogether wrote: »

False on the money front, in America at least it costs more to execute somebody then to lock them up for life

Its only when you let the PC brigade defend these animals that it costs more money.

That scumbag in athlone should be put into the general prison population. He would be dead within a week and it wouldn't cost the tax payer a penny, problem solved.

Mr Williams · 08-03-2014 09:17PM

end of the road wrote: »

so would locking them up for life, now stop wasting everyones time coming out with daily mail style rabel rabel and let this thread dye

I'm sorry I dont speak in Irish Times politically correct speak.

The sex beast in athlone is actually a victim of society and should be treated with kid gloves :rolleyes: Hows that sound ?

end of the road · 08-03-2014 09:20PM

Mr Williams wrote: »

Its only when you let people defend these animals that it costs more money.

bull****, those carrying out the execution will get payed a lot also, anyway so what, these "animals" are entitled to be deffended, things can go wrong during the trial and evidence can come up later proving their innocence, so get over it.

Mr Williams wrote: »

the PC brigade

doesn't exist, its only a mythical organization people believe exists so they can rant at something because they can't get their way or because they can't spout bull**** unchallenged, now seriously, give up and go away, the death penalty isn't coming back, end of.

cometogether · 08-03-2014 09:32PM

Mr Williams wrote: »

Its only when you let the PC brigade defend these animals that it costs more money.

That scumbag in athlone should be put into the general prison population. He would be dead within a week and it wouldn't cost the tax payer a penny, problem solved.

Yeah, so we sanction brutal torture and murder now do we? What a nice society you wish to build

Mr Williams · 08-03-2014 09:55PM

cometogether wrote: »

Yeah, so we sanction brutal torture and murder now do we? What a nice society you wish to build

I wouldn't call it murder I'd call it Justice. You seem to care more about the sex beast than the 2 little girls he raped.

Mr Williams · 08-03-2014 10:03PM

end of the road wrote: »

doesn't exist, its only a mythical organization people believe exists so they can rant at something because they can't get their way or because they can't spout bull**** unchallenged, now seriously, give up and go away, the death penalty isn't coming back, end of.

Of couse they exist. We have people who make a living trying to defend the "rights" of scumbag criminals who will never change their ways.

Mark my words there will be a lawyer out there will try and appeal the sentence of that sex beast in athlone.

I think any of the human rights brigade who try and the defend the actions of these animals should be made to share a cell with them.

looking_around · 08-03-2014 10:12PM

Mr Williams wrote: »

I wouldn't call it murder I'd call it Justice. You seem to care more about the sex beast than the 2 little girls he raped.

Him being killed, won't help the girls.

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And on your quote of me, please don't ignore the rest of my post.

cometogether · 08-03-2014 10:25PM

Mr Williams wrote: »

I wouldn't call it murder I'd call it Justice. You seem to care more about the sex beast than the 2 little girls he raped.

That's an inflammatory lie, and a sure sign that your argument is getting less and less rational. Obviously what happened to the girls is terrible, but believe it or not it still doesn't give anyway to take the rapist's life. That solves nothing. And you said "justice", even going by your eye for an eye argument that isn't correct, the girls are alive.

Amirani · 08-03-2014 10:25PM

Mr Williams wrote: »

I think people like your self are far too soft on these animals. In my opinion once someone rapes a child they should get the death penalty end of story.

The problem is that the sex beast in athlone will probably not serve anymore than 15 years in prison. Then he will be free to do the same thing all over again. If we had the death penalty it would stop these beasts from ever harming another child.

If we had the death penalty for rape, these kids would be dead right now. No child molester is going to leave witnesses alive if they're already liable for the death penalty, might as well kill them and reduce your chance of being caught, the punishment is not going to be any worse.

Why are you supporting something that is going to cause the unnecessary deaths of children? Seems you're the one who cares more about what happens to the "sex beast" than the children.

cometogether · 08-03-2014 10:27PM

Mr Williams wrote: »

Of couse they exist. We have people who make a living trying to defend the "rights" of scumbag criminals who will never change their ways.

Mark my words there will be a lawyer out there will try and appeal the sentence of that sex beast in athlone.

I think any of the human rights brigade who try and the defend the actions of these animals should be made to share a cell with them.

Everyone is entitled to legal counsel, that right is not removed on your say-so. Amazing how quick people seem to be to relinquish their human rights. So presumably the cell comment means that anyone who disagrees with you should be put in a position of rape themselves? But was rape not the whole issue in the first place? I'm genuinely not sure going on your comments whether you are for or against it. Or maybe people can be raped if they disagree with you? Wonderful logic.

Mr Williams · 08-03-2014 10:39PM

cometogether wrote: »

Everyone is entitled to legal counsel, that right is not removed on your say-so. Amazing how quick people seem to be to relinquish their human rights. So presumably the cell comment means that anyone who disagrees with you should be put in a position of rape themselves? But was rape not the whole issue in the first place? I'm genuinely not sure going on your comments whether you are for or against it. Or maybe people can be raped if they disagree with you? Wonderful logic.

My point is that if the human rights brigade think these animals are such great people then they shouldn't have any problem sharing a cell with them or living beside them.

Mr Williams · 08-03-2014 10:46PM

NiallSparky wrote: »

If we had the death penalty for rape, these kids would be dead right now. No child molester is going to leave witnesses alive if they're already liable for the death penalty, might as well kill them and reduce your chance of being caught, the punishment is not going to be any worse.

Why are you supporting something that is going to cause the unnecessary deaths of children? Seems you're the one who cares more about what happens to the "sex beast" than the children.

Thats bull**** these beasts know that if they are caught in most cases they will only get a slap on the wrist. Even his own girlfriend said he should be killed. The problem is that this scumbag will be back on the streets within 20 years, its better to put him down now than have him rape someone else when he gets out.

end of the road · 08-03-2014 10:47PM

Mr Williams wrote: »

Of couse they exist. We have people who make a living trying to defend the "rights" of scumbag criminals who will never change their ways.

Mark my words there will be a lawyer out there will try and appeal the sentence of that sex beast in athlone.

I think any of the human rights brigade who try and the defend the actions of these animals should be made to share a cell with them.

no such thing as the "human rights brigade" their called lawyers, and their doing the job their payed for, if that means defending a sex offender so be it, as for the rest of your claptrap, well i won't bother

Would you support the reintroduction of the death penalty?

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