Political correctness gone mad

StormWarrior · 06-03-2014 12:42PM

I was genuinely mistaken when I saw the picture, I thought it was a woman in a burka with three bin bags. After a while I noticed that one of the bin bags had shoes, and realised it was a child.

Boskowski · 06-03-2014 12:48PM

There are genuine examples of PC ness gone mad but I dont think this is one of them.

It's a stupid and racist joke and I don't feel sorry for him one bit.

Tombo2001 · 06-03-2014 12:49PM

conorhal wrote: »

I think it's just as ok as it is to mock cluless politicians, they both are expressions of political extremity and ideological ignornace, thus hardly immune from mocking.

Yeah, that woman woke up and said 'Will I put on my Lacoste Polo Shirt, or will I put on my expression of political extremity'.....she went for the latter so that makes her fair game.

FTA69 · 06-03-2014 12:53PM

People are correct when they say there is a difference between racism and Islamophobia but the sad reality is that in Britain the two are often linked are often propagated from the same sources.

tigger123 · 06-03-2014 12:55PM

Anyone holding public office who thinks it's acceptable to share that kind of stuff on social media is too thick to hold their position. It's pretty basic.

StormWarrior · 06-03-2014 12:55PM

I think it's important that it is ok to mock absolutely anyone. Political correctness is getting more extreme and it comes down to this - which world would you rather live in:

One where you have the safety to speak freely about anything but there's the danger that someone may mock you?

Or one where nobody dares to mock you because they are frightened that if they say the wrong thing they will be taken away in the night?

Herb Powell · 06-03-2014 12:57PM

StormWarrior wrote: »

I think it's important that it is ok to mock absolutely anyone. Political correctness is getting more extreme and it comes down to this - which world would you rather live in:

One where you have the safety to speak freely about anything but there's the danger that someone may mock you?

Or one where nobody dares to mock you because they are frightened that if they say the wrong thing they will be taken away in the night?

Oh for fucck sake

tigger123 · 06-03-2014 12:59PM

StormWarrior wrote: »

I think it's important that it is ok to mock absolutely anyone. Political correctness is getting more extreme and it comes down to this - which world would you rather live in:

One where you have the safety to speak freely about anything but there's the danger that someone may mock you?

Or one where nobody dares to mock you because they are frightened that if they say the wrong thing they will be taken away in the night?

Can we mock people based on their race? I miss that.

BTW, who's gonna be doing these midnight raids? The PC Brigade? They come at night, mostly.

StormWarrior · 06-03-2014 01:04PM

A couple of decades ago who would have ever thought that someone in the UK could be fired for making a joke. Now people are so brainwashed by PC that they think it's perfectly acceptable. It's a slippery slope. Nazi Germany started off slowly too. I won't be surprised if soon classic books with "racist" or "homophobic" things in them are being banned.

Tombo2001 · 06-03-2014 01:06PM

StormWarrior wrote: »

A couple of decades ago who would have ever thought that someone in the UK could be fired for making a joke. Now people are so brainwashed by PC that they think it's perfectly acceptable. It's a slippery slope. Nazi Germany started off slowly too. I won't be surprised if soon classic books with "racist" or "homophobic" things in them are being banned.

Isnt there some internet thing about that.....

vitani · 06-03-2014 01:06PM

StormWarrior wrote: »

A couple of decades ago who would have ever thought that someone in the UK could be fired for making a joke. Now people are so brainwashed by PC that they think it's perfectly acceptable. It's a slippery slope. Nazi Germany started off slowly too. I won't be surprised if soon classic books with "racist" or "homophobic" things in them are being banned.

Godwinned!

/thread

Tombo2001 · 06-03-2014 01:07PM

vitani wrote: »

Godwinned!

/thread

Bullseye!

Heroditas · 06-03-2014 01:13PM

Only by Page 5 though - impressive!

MadsL · 06-03-2014 01:14PM

Heroditas wrote: »

Only by Page 5 though - impressive!

n00b. Page 2 you mean.

Heroditas · 06-03-2014 01:21PM

MadsL wrote: »

n00b. Page 2 you mean.

Damn those page settings!

Tombo2001 · 06-03-2014 01:23PM

Anyways....

Nazi Germany came about because the PC brigade stopped people making racist comments.......

StormWarrior · 06-03-2014 01:36PM

The powers that be don't care about racism or otherwise. It's a way to control people's minds. The more words and topics that are erased from a language, the fewer thoughts people can think. When only the "correct" words have been in use for a number of years, people will only be able to think the "correct" thoughts. It is pure and simple brainwashing and most people seem so stupid that they are falling for it. TPTB have been very clever about it, tricking stupid people into thinking it is for the benefit of humanity, like this "who could object to racist or homophobic words being banned? Only horrible people would like to say racist or homophobic things," so that stupid people who fail to see the bigger picture, will agree that those things should be banned. It's just the first step on a downward spiral. Soon the list of things we may not say will be vastly bigger than the list of things we may say, and our thoughts will eventually be altered accordingly. The politicians don't give a cr@p about racism or homophobia, they just want control over everything, even what you think.

vitani · 06-03-2014 01:38PM

StormWarrior wrote: »

The powers that be don't care about racism or otherwise. It's a way to control people's minds. The more words and topics that are erased from a language, the fewer thoughts people can think. When only the "correct" words have been in use for a number of years, people will only be able to think the "correct" thoughts. It is pure and simple brainwashing and most people seem so stupid that they are falling for it. TPTB have been very clever about it, tricking stupid people into thinking it is for the benefit of humanity, like this "who could object to racist or homophobic words being banned? Only horrible people would like to say racist or homophobic things," so that stupid people who fail to see the bigger picture, will agree that those things should be banned. It's just the first step on a downward spiral. Soon the list of things we may not say will be vastly bigger than the list of things we may say, and our thoughts will eventually be altered accordingly. The politicians don't give a cr@p about racism or homophobia, they just want control over everything, even what you think.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak

looksee · 06-03-2014 01:52PM

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

Burkas are not a race, nor are burkas worn by any particular race.

Which means this is even less a comment on race/religion than on the burka itself. It could be a pile of leaves under there or very well a pile of garbage, which is what women are treated like in places that enforce the burka.

Just because the burka is espoused by some adherents of a religion shouldn't put it beyond criticism, that applies to any idea or action or imposition on people. I thought we in Ireland would have enough experience with the dangers of putting religions and religious ideas beyond scrutiny to understand this. Many people are against the burka for valid reasons, it is a tool of control and subversion of women, it is not racist to criticize and ridicule this disgusting object of oppression.

I am not interested in the mindset or position of the man who posted the image, but the idea that the burka, which is used to treat women like garbage, is beyond the reach of criticism is a ridiculous and dangerous notion.

You seem to be under the impression that you have responded to my post. In fact you have completely missed the point. I was not particularly commenting on the burka, I was commenting on the fact that this is a set up photograph intended to mock a group of people who have particular beliefs, or are forced by their own customs to conform to those beliefs. (I refer to the belief that a burka is necessary, not to Islam).

I have no time for the burka, but that is just my opinion. I am entitled to my opinion, but that does not give me the right to belittle people who for whatever reason feel obliged, or prefer, to wear it. It is certainly inappropriate for a person in public life - a politician - to make pathetic jokes, and if he cannot see that, then he should not be in public life.

El Weirdo · 06-03-2014 03:43PM

MadsL wrote: »

I wonder if a facebook description of him as a "bubble" would be well received by his community. A jolly tune accompanied by the sound of smashing plates perhaps? Or a reference to "greasy" greeks?

Funny how the previous bunch of immigrants throw out disparaging remarks at the latest wave of immigrants.

Is "bubble" offensive now?

It's rhyming slang.

StormWarrior wrote: »

The powers that be don't care about racism or otherwise. It's a way to control people's minds. The more words and topics that are erased from a language, the fewer thoughts people can think. When only the "correct" words have been in use for a number of years, people will only be able to think the "correct" thoughts. It is pure and simple brainwashing and most people seem so stupid that they are falling for it. TPTB have been very clever about it, tricking stupid people into thinking it is for the benefit of humanity, like this "who could object to racist or homophobic words being banned? Only horrible people would like to say racist or homophobic things," so that stupid people who fail to see the bigger picture, will agree that those things should be banned. It's just the first step on a downward spiral. Soon the list of things we may not say will be vastly bigger than the list of things we may say, and our thoughts will eventually be altered accordingly. The politicians don't give a cr@p about racism or homophobia, they just want control over everything, even what you think.

What utter bollocks.

FTA69 · 06-03-2014 03:49PM

StormWarrior wrote: »

A couple of decades ago who would have ever thought that someone in the UK could be fired for making a joke.

A couple of decades ago in the UK you had a prominent far-right movement, a police force riddled with overt racism and people facing serious hassle in work and their daily life over their nationality or race. There are very occasional incidents where the "race" stuff gets taken too far, but in general the fact you can't be a racist bastard in the workplace here is a good thing.

If you were an Irish or black or Bengali person here in the 1970s you may have a different perspective about "having the craic" at work regarding other nationalities.

Muise... · 06-03-2014 04:15PM

I'm an Islamophobe. I am terrified and hateful of any religion that holds women in contempt. That is why I did lol at the photo. Laughter vanquishes fear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK7CVNyBALo

Idobai · 06-03-2014 04:15PM

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Men and women wear different clothes in any part of the world.

Muslim men wear a shalwar qamiz. That is standard attire in muslim countries where the burkha is worn. That covers everything except the face.

And again, the rights and wrongs of the Burkha is a seperate argument.

That's bull**** tbh. Alot of men do wear the shalwar qamiz or the dish dash, but in muslim countries I've been in (Have spent some time in Qatar,Oman and UAE) most men walk around in shorts/tshirt or jeans while their wife walks five paces behind in the burqa. Not to derail the thread, but it's definitely not the standard attire.

Hootanany · 06-03-2014 07:34PM

My first look at the photo and I thought there was 3 kids it's a very dark photo

sillyoulfool · 06-03-2014 07:36PM

Hootanany wrote: »

My first look at the photo and I thought there was 3 kids it's a very dark photo

That is a shocking thing to say.
It is clear to everyone except perhaps a myopic racist that there are not.

Hootanany · 06-03-2014 07:40PM

A quick glance and it did appear to me. I am not forensic viewer

end of the road · 06-03-2014 07:42PM

Hootanany wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2572785/Tory-councillor-compared-children-burkas-binbags-kicked-party.html

He made a genuine mistake and got fired.
This has got to stop.

a stupid thing to do in hindsight but any police force which wastes time investigating such nonsense needs to have severe cuts imposed as their obviously over staffed

Tombo2001 · 06-03-2014 11:53PM

Idobai wrote: »

That's bull**** tbh. Alot of men do wear the shalwar qamiz or the dish dash, but in muslim countries I've been in (Have spent some time in Qatar,Oman and UAE) most men walk around in shorts/tshirt or jeans while their wife walks five paces behind in the burqa. Not to derail the thread, but it's definitely not the standard attire.

Its the standard male attire in Pakistan which has a population 50 times larger than Qatar.....

Guy:Incognito · 07-03-2014 07:50PM

looksee wrote: »

its just a petty minded, nasty bit of racism. .

What if the people in the Burkhas are English and white?

Guy:Incognito · 07-03-2014 07:56PM

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Pakistan, Bangladesh, Iran, Iraq etc are very very traditional societies.

So was Ireland 100 years ago. You go back 114 years ago to Ireland in 1900, take one of the most well known Irish 'peasant' women from that era - Peig Sayers. Living on the Dingle Peninsula.

She would have been 27 years old then. (Wikipedia). SHe'd have been used to wearing a long dress to here ankles, a shawl and a head scarf - only her face on show.

If you had said to Peig, lets take a time travel machine, go forward 100 years to 2014....and guess what Peig, it is a-ok to go down to your local beach in a skimpy bikini. You are now liberated, away you go....but just make sure you get a wax beforehand, otherwise people might be a bit put off.....URL]

What if Peig Sayers wasn't transported in a time machine but was born in Ireland now, to parent who think she should live and dress like its 1900 but loads of others around her are all well aware its 2014? Cos that's whats happening now.

Tombo2001 wrote: »

I asked you a question, which you didnt answer.

Do you think its ok to mock women who wear burkhas?

Its as ok as it is to mock women going around in Skirts so short their arses are hanging out or fat women in boob tubes. Don't see any criticism over on the you laugh you lose thread.

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