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Paddy power taking bets on oscar pistorius verdict

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    The killing of that young person has been tackily reported and joked about from day one; Paddy Power are no different to legions before them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,183 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Lou.m wrote: »
    Don't gamblers have enough of a bad reputation for being immoral scum??

    You'll find my GP, a good number of medical and nursing staff from my local hospital, 2 priests I know, teachers, bar staff, bin men, gardaí, a retired judge and lots of honest hard working people from all walks of life having a flutter in my local branch of Paddy Powers on any given Saturday.

    Immoral scum?


    Just because someone likes to place an odd bet doesn't mean they automatically must agree with Powers decision to run a book on this case. :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,532 ✭✭✭Lou.m


    Lapin wrote: »
    You'll find my GP, a good number of medical and nursing staff from my local hospital, 2 priests I know, teachers, bar staff, bin men, gardaí, a retired judge and lots of honest hard working people from all walks of life having a flutter in my local branch of Paddy Powers on any given Saturday.

    Immoral scum?


    Just because someone likes to place an odd bet doesn't mean they automatically must agree with Powers decision to run a book on this case. :mad:

    Sorry my bro did security for the Greyhound racing authority at the shelbourne and at the harold's cross stadium whilst doing his masters. And his general opinion of the general clientele was not very high.

    A no of friends of mine whilst I was finishing off my degree worked there as the pay was high in comparison to other jobs and had a couple of unpleasant experiences so I am probably biased.

    You get a couple of bad apples in every setting.

    I used to deal for small poker games a little when I was doing my degree they were grand on the whole.
    You'll find my GP, a good number of medical and nursing staff from my local hospital, 2 priests I know, teachers, bar staff, bin men, gardaí, a retired judge and lots of honest hard working people from all walks of life having a flutter in my local branch of Paddy Powers on any given Saturday.

    Immoral scum?

    I think I would try not to judge someone by their profession. I would try to judge them on their character. Saying that by my own standard that I should not judge people on whether they are a gambler or not.

    So I apologize, sincerely.

    However those who did run a book on this case in my mind are of very very low character. And those who placed a bet are too.

    I hate it when it comes down to any way to make money. It's pretty low.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    Doing nothing wrong betting on this, it's not in bad taste even imo.

    They did this back in the day with the OJ trial as well.
    Same fuss, same awesome publicity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,532 ✭✭✭Lou.m


    mdwexford wrote: »
    Doing nothing wrong betting on this, it's not in bad taste even imo.

    They did this back in the day with the OJ trial as well.
    Same fuss, same awesome publicity.

    Hm maybe some gamblers are a bad sort then. :mad:


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,183 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    I think this latest stunt is in very poor taste but I'm not going to get caught up in the tide of moral outrage it has created.

    Because I see it for exactly what it is. A publicity stunt in the week before the biggest annual betting event on the planet - The Cheltenham Festival.

    The disgusted and outraged callers queuing up to talk to Joe on Liveline yesterday played right into the hands of the bookmakers and provided them with almost an hour of free publicity to 400,000 listeners.

    During this time, the marketing spokesman (whose name also happens to be Paddy Power) managed to make listeners aware of many other types of novelty bets offered by the firm and mentioned the upcoming Cheltenham Festival a number of times.

    This kind of exposure is worth a fortune in free advertising to the firm ahead of their busiest week of the year and it looks set to continue on discussion forums like this and the papers later this morning.

    The maximum amount permitted on the controversial bet is €20, and on Liveline yesterday, Mr Power claimed that as little as 700 people had placed a bet on the outcome of the case. A miniscule amount for the publicity it generated and for a company that turned over €4.6 billion just over 2 years ago.

    I'm only surprised Joe Duffy and his producers fell for it. Perhaps they reckoned it would make good radio and in fairness thats the business they're in. But had they chosen to ignore it and dismiss it as the stunt that it is, most of us here (myself included) would never know such a bet existed. And we wouldn't be discussing Paddy Powers in the week before Cheltenham.

    The book on the Pistorias case would be quietly closed and the boardroom at Powers would be in a brainstorming session to come up with something else to garner free attention ahead of their busiest week. They do it every year.

    Who knows - They may even have come up with a more tasteful idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 TheJug


    Lapin, you've hit the nail on the head with "...I'm not going to get caught up in the tide of moral outrage it has created. Because I see it for exactly what it is. A publicity stunt in the week before the biggest annual betting event on the planet - The Cheltenham Festival..."

    However, see my post and pics earler in this thread...

    From them, one might infer that this PP example of the Michael O'Leary (Old) School of PR has caught them out: any benefits from good publicity is outweighed by a Cheltenham-long boycott. Generally I find boycotts too mean spirited and broad-brush to be fair or effective, but I am an active punter and will not be taking PP prices at Chelt, even when they are competitive. A lukewarm gesture to the memory of a blameless woman -- but then I did do something a trifle more heroic in her name... which self-incrimination prevents me from mentioning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    TheJug wrote: »
    Lapin, you've hit the nail on the head with "...I'm not going to get caught up in the tide of moral outrage it has created. Because I see it for exactly what it is. A publicity stunt in the week before the biggest annual betting event on the planet - The Cheltenham Festival..."

    However, see my post and pics earler in this thread...

    From them, one might infer that this PP example of the Michael O'Leary (Old) School of PR has caught them out: any benefits from good publicity is outweighed by a Cheltenham-long boycott. Generally I find boycotts too mean spirited and broad-brush to be fair or effective, but I am an active punter and will not be taking PP prices at Chelt, even when they are competitive. A lukewarm gesture to the memory of a blameless woman -- but then I did do something a trifle more heroic in her name... which self-incrimination prevents me from mentioning.

    So legally using a court case for publicity is bad.

    But you breaking the law is "heroic".

    I can spot a slight flaw in your argument.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Clandestine


    if you don't like it, don't place a bet. Its that simple


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,129 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Very poor taste and the ad that was in the paper is cringeworthy. But hey, it's doing what it was intended to do which is generating publicity.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭Steppenwolfe


    Some people are easily offended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭gumbo1


    Also offering money back if he's found not guilty! Worth 10€ don't ya think??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,998 ✭✭✭Satriale


    Some people are easily offended.

    Not me, but this is pretty low.
    Can anyone remember did they take bets on the Michaela Harte or Jill Meagher murder trials?
    Bad form Paddypower...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    if you don't like it, don't place a bet. Its that simple
    Huh? No it isn't that simple. People can give their opinions on stuff - that's free speech.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Some people are easily offended.

    How about child abuse cases or rape?would you be in favour of the bookies getting in on the action in these cases?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭Slideshowbob




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,998 ✭✭✭Satriale


    i guess they got all the free publicity they wanted in the run up to cheltenham...


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