Gardai corruption or have we become a nation of cynics?

Hootanany · 03-03-2014 06:43PM

My eyes hurt

WilyCoyote · 03-03-2014 06:47PM

In case of sore eyes, please remove gas mask!

TheHappyChappy · 03-03-2014 06:48PM

Spot on about morris + barron

Hootanany · 03-03-2014 06:48PM

Why all the different size & colour text?

TheHappyChappy · 03-03-2014 06:50PM

Hootanany wrote: »

Why all the different size & colour text?

why not?

Does teacher not approve?

Hootanany · 03-03-2014 06:53PM

Not a Teacher just really hurts my eyes I couldn't read it properly.

Potential-Monke · 03-03-2014 07:25PM

It's an attempt at someone trying to brandish every Garda the same and s/he thinks using different size text and bold font that it will have more of an effect. Well, it did. It made you look like a fool, in my opinion of course.

You want to know the real reason why you think the Gardaí are doing nothing? Because it takes a hell of a lot more today to prosecute someone then it did even a few years ago. Criminals are being represented, for the most part, by solicitors on the Free Legal Aid Scheme, a scheme which rewards repeat appearances. So the solicitors are looking for every minute detail in order to further prolong the case and make it harder for a state prosecution against a career criminal. A paying customer may not have the money to fight it as far as someone on the FLA scheme, so, in my experience there is less of a fight. It could also be that the "innocent" people recognize that they broke a law and are willing to accept the consequences.

Or how about you direct your (blatantly unbiased :rolleyes: ) opinion towards the people who issue the convictions, ie: the Judges. They're the ones to blame here, giving handy sentences to career criminals and harsh sentences to "innocent" people.

But alas, i feel like i'm feeding the troll. You obviously have your mind made up about every single one of the 13,000+ Gardaí who are currently active, they're all corrupt, negligent, lieing scum in your eyes. So i'm afraid your opinion, to anyone with half a brain, wouldn't be worth the bits of data it takes to display them on screen.

Whereas, if you had an unbiased opinion, one that recognizes that not everyone in the force is as you say, then people might take you a bit more serious.

WilyCoyote · 03-03-2014 07:56PM

Potential-Monke. Why or when did you drop the Y? Career move methinks.
Your post is a lesson in simian semantics. But there is hope for you. But you have to open your eyes.

Potential-Monke · 03-03-2014 07:59PM

Because when i signed up there was only room for 15 characters and i didn't realise the Y didn't go through. But that's totally relevant to the topic...

On topic, are you calling me a liar, corrupt and lazy?

Hootanany · 03-03-2014 08:03PM

I did not want to upset this thread all I said that the text hurt my eyes. No agenda whatsoever.

WilyCoyote · 03-03-2014 08:06PM

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Because when i signed up there was only room for 15 characters and i didn't realise the Y didn't go through. But that's totally relevant to the topic...

On topic, are you calling me a liar, corrupt and lazy?

Like all of us, you were made in God's image and likeness. So why would I dislike you - even if you were corrupt and lazy.

I hope the life changing experience of the Y not going through doesn't have a permanent negative effect on your logic. Time is a great healer.

WilyCoyote · 03-03-2014 08:10PM

Hootanany wrote: »

I did not want to upset this thread all I said that the text hurt my eyes. No agenda whatsoever.

I'm sure that in an attic in China somewhere there are a few geeks coming up with a braille version for boards.ie. You'll be sorted then.

Are you sure this isn't a thinly veiled ad for SpecSavers? C'mon then ........ how much did they pay you?

Hootanany · 03-03-2014 08:17PM

That's much better I can read that.

brooke 2 · 04-03-2014 01:11PM

TheHappyChappy wrote: »

The scandal of the commissioner & the criminal property deal happened pre morris & gsoc....

If it happened today it would not be IMHO swept under the carpet & covered up,

Even shatter couldn't explain this bizarre occurrence

Iirc, it was mentioned in the Sunday World. Nowhere else. That was before the Daily Mail came to our shores.

I doubt THEY would have ignored the story of the garda commissioner who purchased a house at a cheap rate
from a convicted criminal!!

WilyCoyote · 20-03-2014 04:25PM

Varadkar is the first Minister to put his head above the parapet. But Callinan's unbridled arrogance shimmies out of the line of fire:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/garda-commissioner-stands-by-disgusting-comment-despite-varadkars-criticism-30110994.html

Spring Onion · 23-03-2014 02:43PM

Callinan really does represent everything that is rotten within the Gardaí. His refusal to resign or even withdraw the "disgusting" remark in relation to the whistleblowers shows how much power trumps serving the public and doing the right thing. I for one hold the Gardaí in contempt until they clean up their act.

And why should the rest of us accept any penalty pointswe have received when we know the elite in our society have had their's quashed? I wonder when this issue will end up in a district court.

Birroc · 25-03-2014 12:15AM

This is pretty clear cut, he needs to go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAyervNJ3fA

Their allegations were correct and there isn't a whisper among the other Gardaí because of the cover up culture.

SeaFields · 25-03-2014 10:48AM

Newstalk radio reporting that Callinan has resigned.

shockwave · 25-03-2014 10:50AM

SeaFields wrote: »

Newstalk radio reporting that Callinan has resigned.

On RTE now as well.

brooke 2 · 25-03-2014 11:00AM

SeaFields wrote: »

Newstalk radio reporting that Callinan has resigned.

Whoopee!!

Hope they appoint an outsider as the new commissioner!!

tayto lover · 25-03-2014 11:06AM

brooke 2 wrote: »

Whoopee!!

Hope they appoint an outsider as the new commissioner!!

Won't happen. It will be another Govt promotion.
There should be an independent board appointed immediately so that this cannot happen again.
Will we get it? Not a chance.
One sheep resigns and another will be appointed.

kupus · 25-03-2014 11:07AM

about time he went pity he was sacked though, i see a woman has taken charge now, i hope she has balls bigger than maggie thacther, cos shes going to need them dealing with the old boys network.

Birroc · 25-03-2014 12:28PM

I cant believe it has taken this long.
He said the whistleblowers were disgusting and were alone on the force for their accusations. Then they were subsequently proved to be completely right.

Mardy Bum · 25-03-2014 12:36PM

Its a testament to The Wire how close Ireland mirrors Baltimore in terms of politics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH_6_8NOfwI

Commissioner Burrell and Commissioner Callinan are on the same.

This is poor Callinan today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt0xkap-m6Y

King of Kings · 25-03-2014 12:42PM

kupus wrote: »

about time he went pity he was sacked though, i see a woman has taken charge now, i hope she has balls bigger than maggie thacther, cos shes going to need them dealing with the old boys network.

you really believe that sexist crap ?
As if somebody's gender makes them immune to being part of "the gang".

she is a career garda who is at the top table in garda town. How do you think she got there? on merit and being part of the gang.
You need both I'm afraid.
Radicals never get promoted beyond middle management in any organisation.

I'll bet her gender makes no difference to her being part of the clique.

Normal service will resume with some sop to the public from Enda.

He will be stern and promise accountability in the future maybe something like a ministerial annual report....maybe...

Zebra3 · 25-03-2014 01:35PM

Everyone knows AGS are corrupt to the core.

Remember them attacking innocent civilians on Dame Street in 2002?

How many were jailed for that?

Spring Onion · 25-03-2014 03:04PM

I actually considered earlier whether Callinan should get jail for this. For example if it can be proven that he knew penalty points were being quashed for VIPs and did nothing about it because he still thought his (13000 - 2) Gardai were untouchable, isn't that a criminal offence?

WilyCoyote · 25-03-2014 09:05PM

Good riddance. But he should have been sacked. How come he couldn't have done the decent thing earlier. However his fall from grace will be cushioned by a fat pension. Plus the consultancy work for some firm that will pay him.
This fellow has overseen an unprecedented spike in corruption in the force but his cunning and survival instinct, which propelled him to the top, finally played second fiddle to his arrogance and bluster which caused his downfall.
To tidy up the force, they now should disassemble the PR wing which has been working overtime since his predecessor assumed office, to keep the peasants at bay.

Knob Longman · 29-03-2014 03:57PM

The PaddyWhackery continues...

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/new-row-for-shatter-as-judge-embroiled-in-penalty-points-scandal-30133993.html

But a good citizen will never abandon his faith in justice and good governance:D:D

WilyCoyote · 16-04-2014 11:37PM

A bit of a leap of faith by Ms O Sullivan: But, she said, in the meantime, the force must create an environment where people feel comfortable and confident about making a complaint.

She added that the gardai still have the support of the Irish people and she did not believe dissent was disloyalty and when they received criticism they should not push back against it. Evening Herald (16/4/14)

Full story: http://www.herald.ie/news/gardai-must-rebuild-trust-osullivan-30191952.html

"Gardai must rebuild trust"

What is this "trust" that they've got to rebuild ........ if there was no question of them being mistrusted? Has she problems with the English language?

Gardai corruption or have we become a nation of cynics?

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