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David Norris cranks up his private war machine

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭porsche959


    Interesting timing considering what is going on in the UK with the imbruglia over Harriet Harman, NCCL and PIE etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    Shouldnt the title be "When will David Norris Ever Stop Speaking Bollocks"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    As long as I don't hear his voice at any point I could care less .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    kneemos wrote: »
    As long as I don't hear his voice at any point I could care less .

    This implies that you care.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    Timing or coincidence?
    And for good measure, blame The Daily Mail before The Mail was proven to be right.

    "Just what do Harriet Harman and Jack Dromey think they’re doing? Yesterday I wrote a piece questioning their former NCCL colleague Patricia Hewitt, and the way she had failed to respond to the evidence of links between that organisation and PIE, the front organisation for a group of 1970s child abusers. “Unless there is some practical personal reason none of us are aware of for Hewitt not facing her accusers, she’s left her former colleagues, and her former party, swinging in the wind,” I wrote.
    Well, late yesterday – and to her credit – Hewitt responded to those accusations with a concise and no-nonsense apology. “NCCL in the 1970s, along with many others, was naive and wrong to accept PIE's claim to be a 'campaigning and counselling organisation' that 'does not promote unlawful acts',” she said. "As general secretary then, I take responsibility for the mistakes we made. I should have urged the executive committee to take stronger measures to protect NCCL's integrity from the activities of PIE members and sympathisers and I deeply regret not having done so.”
    That statement has two immediate consequences. First, it brings closure on the issue for Patricia Hewitt. And secondly it makes Harriet Harman and Jack Dromey’s current stance totally untenable.
    Ever since last week both Harman and Dromey have based their defence on three increasingly spurious arguments. The first was that the whole thing was a “smear” cooked up by The Daily Mail.
    Despite the continued self-righteous pontificating of their supporters – who now appear to include senior representatives of the Hacked Off campaign – that defence has been totally and utterly demolished. The NCCL story was good, legitimate journalism. The fact it has now been covered by all major news outlets (indeed it was first raised by the Telegraph’s own Damian Thompson), coupled with Hewitt’s apology, prove the Mail was right to print it."

    Full story:

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danhodges/100261646/nccl-paedophilia-scandal-patricia-hewitts-apology-blows-harriet-harmans-last-defence-out-of-the-water/


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    Just be thankful we have a Hobbit in Áras an Uachtaráin and not this individual.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    porsche959 wrote: »
    Interesting timing considering what is going on in the UK with the imbruglia over Harriet Harman, NCCL and PIE etc.


    That was a right natalie alright


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭porsche959


    WilyCoyote wrote: »
    Timing or coincidence?

    Coincidence would have been a better way of putting it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    I think Helen Lucy Burke may be a right little goblin, to be fair. Also, he's dying. Let him do whatever he wants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    He likes micky


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,870 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    ...he's dying...
    Is he?

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭holystungun9


    Hermy wrote: »
    Is he?

    We all are my friend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 645 ✭✭✭Vision of Disorder


    Hermy wrote: »
    Is he?

    Well I guess we're all dying technically?

    Edit: holystungun9 outdrew me... no I really do feel I'm dying... of shame!


  • Site Banned Posts: 11 M03 r numb3R5


    Hermy wrote: »
    Is he?

    He won't like that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,030 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    porsche959 wrote: »
    Interesting timing considering what is going on in the UK with the imbruglia over Harriet Harman, NCCL and PIE etc.

    There are articles and photos from years ago. He was umm.. socialising with other groups that had some fairly broad interests.

    I guess he has money to waste.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    I think Helen Lucy Burke may be a right little goblin, to be fair. Also, he's dying. Let him do whatever he wants.

    I want them both to lose.

    Is he really dying though? I thought that was just another hissy fit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    Muise... wrote: »
    I want them both to lose.

    Is he really dying though? I thought that was just another hissy fit.
    I can't tell if people are messing here or not...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Cydoniac wrote: »
    I can't tell if people are messing here or not...

    Will there be consequences?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Cydoniac wrote: »
    I can't tell if people are messing here or not...

    I'm not. He really gets on my tits. Every time he shoots his mouth off I wonder how someone with a job at Trinity (though not much in the way of academic degrees) can muddle information about sexuality and the classical world so very very badly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 645 ✭✭✭Vision of Disorder


    Cydoniac wrote: »
    I can't tell if people are messing here or not...

    I won't speak for anybody else but I think he's incredibly devious and, to be blunt, find it hard to accept anything he says at face value. So I'm not wholly and utterly convinced that all is as he says regarding the specifics of his illness.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    I won't speak for anybody else but I think he's incredibly devious and, to be blunt, find it hard to accept anything he says at face value. So I'm not wholly and utterly convinced that all is as he says regarding the specifics of his illness.

    You think he's lying about having cancer? Dear jesus!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    I won't speak for anybody else but I think he's incredibly devious and, to be blunt, find it hard to accept anything he says at face value. So I'm not wholly and utterly convinced that all is as he says regarding the specifics of his illness.
    That's disgusting if you think he's actually lying about having cancer. Have you seen the man in person recently? He looks like a shadow of his former self. Whatever about the AH banter, have some respect, jesus.

    Seriously, he has more integrity in his little finger than most would-be politicians have nowadays in their whole body.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 645 ✭✭✭Vision of Disorder


    Corkfeen wrote: »
    You think he's lying about having cancer? Dear jesus!

    I don't know that he isn't. :P More seriously, I don't doubt that he's ill. It's the details that I wonder about, the 'fact' that he apparently got it through hepatitis that he contacted while doing "unpaid government work" in Eastern Europe in 1994. What a hero...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    Probably just me that neither knows nor cares then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    I don't know that he isn't. :P More seriously, I don't doubt that he's ill. It's the details that I wonder about, the 'fact' that he apparently got it through hepatitis that he contacted while doing "unpaid government work" in Eastern Europe inu 1994. What a hero...

    In a recent interview he was blaming the treatment he got from the media in the presidential election for bringing on his illness.Don't suppose it could be proven either way but he was blaming them in any case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 645 ✭✭✭Vision of Disorder


    kneemos wrote: »
    In a recent interview he was blaming the treatment he got from the media in the presidential election for bringing on his illness.Don't suppose it could be proven either way but he was blaming them in any case.

    Ah ok, it was last year that he blamed the poor water of Eastern Europe. It'll probably be my unkind posts on boards.ie next.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/senator-david-norris-confirms-serious-cancer-condition-29374307.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Cydoniac wrote: »
    Seriously, he has more integrity in his little finger than most would-be politicians have nowadays in their whole body.

    I have to disagree. I admire everything he did to decriminalise homosexual acts and to set an example of living openly and freely gay in Ireland.

    But his abuse of public office to defend a friend convicted of a crime in another jurisdiction held no integrity. Worse, his waffling about pederasty and cultural relativism may have set back attitudes to non-normative sexuality in Ireland. This was a perfect opportunity to delineate legal and ethical terms -i.e the difference between paedophila and ephebophilia, yet he buffooned his way into a deeper hole of nonsense. If he has any integrity, it is the deluded pride and prickliness of an Irish King Lear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,158 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    Cydoniac wrote: »
    That's disgusting if you think he's actually lying about having cancer. Have you seen the man in person recently? He looks like a shadow of his former self. Whatever about the AH banter, have some respect, jesus.

    Seriously, he has more integrity in his little finger than most would-be politicians have nowadays in their whole body.

    To be fair, its probably much easier not to look bad when unlike most politicians you're not really elected, only have to serve in a meaningless talking shop, and have no constituents to answer to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Thank the Lord he didn't win the presidency, embarrassing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭cletus van damme


    Cydoniac wrote: »
    That's disgusting if you think he's actually lying about having cancer. Have you seen the man in person recently? He looks like a shadow of his former self. Whatever about the AH banter, have some respect, jesus.

    Seriously, he has more integrity in his little finger than most would-be politicians have nowadays in their whole body
    .

    pull the other one - if a Fianna Fail fellow wrote a letter on behalf of a person convicted of statutory rape - the country would be in arms. uproar.

    Cos it's norris we're expected to let it go cos he was the man who invented gay rights ??

    Then don't get me started on the pederasty stuff - although I can kinda accept he was waffling at a dinner party rather than acting in an offical capacity.


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