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  • #842
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You can't pick a TUS placement like you can a CE scheme. They contact you and interview you and see if they have something suitable.


  • #843
    TBP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 265 ✭✭TBP


    I got wind of a placement coming up in my area that would suit me and one that I reckon I'll enjoy doing prior to my interview last Tuesday and mentioned it to them. They more or less told me that if I'm one of the people chosen to take up what I think are around 7 available placements in my area that they'll fix me up with that one.


  • #844
    dodzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,302 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    TBP wrote: »
    I got wind of a placement coming up in my area that would suit me and one that I reckon I'll enjoy doing prior to my interview last Tuesday and mentioned it to them. They more or less told me that if I'm one of the people chosen to take up what I think are around 7 available placements in my area that they'll fix me up with that one.
    You're a nailed on cert I'd guess. People proactively suggesting placements as a preference are not all that common. If it was me, I'd be giving it to you ;)


  • #845
    davlacey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭davlacey


    more placements offered by the dublin councils more info in the link
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0221/505740-800-jobseekers-to-work-in-dublins-councils/


  • #846
    Ireland..
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 ✭Ireland..


    dodzy wrote: »
    Were you selected for the Programme ? i.e. Did you receive a letter from DSP ?
    No not so far but I have been unemployed long term and don't have much work experience so I am expecting to be called.
    I'm open to the idea of trying it out but I wouldn't really be into some jobs I heard that are on offer.
    Like working with the elderly or children so I was wondering what there is to pick from?


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  • #847
    TBP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 265 ✭✭TBP


    Ireland.. wrote: »
    No not so far but I have been unemployed long term and don't have much work experience so I am expecting to be called.
    I'm open to the idea of trying it out but I wouldn't really be into some jobs I heard that are on offer.
    Like working with the elderly or children so I was wondering what there is to pick from?

    They crowd that interviewed me seemed to focus a good bit on what my interests were and what sort of jobs I'd like to do etc. I'd have my doubts that if you told them that you were interested in working with the elderly and children that they'd put you out sweeping the streets or mowing hurling pitches. Stressing to them that if it was possible at all to not put you on one of them placements you wouldn't like you'd appreciate it greatly, would do you no harm wither I'd say. I told them that if I got a placement with hours that would suit me (I've a child with a disability and needs 24 hour round the clock care) that I'd have no problem in working 100 hours a week for them and they were very understanding. Told me not to worry that if I was going to be one of the ones chosen from the days interviews that they would do their best to sort me out with a placement that wouldn't make things tougher than they already are for me at home.


  • #848
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • #849
    corsav6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,642 ✭✭✭corsav6


    Fred Swanson wrote: »
    Gateway/Tús propaganda piece on RTE news now.

    Just home now so missed it. Do you know will it be repeated on rte news channel?


  • #850
    dodzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,302 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    TBP wrote: »
    I told them that if I got a placement with hours that would suit me (I've a child with a disability and needs 24 hour round the clock care)
    you should be on carers if that's the case.


  • #851
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • #852
    ROY RACE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭ROY RACE


    think these schemes are slave labour pure and simple-being forced to do these crap jobs speaks of tyranny


  • #853
    corsav6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,642 ✭✭✭corsav6


    ROY RACE wrote: »
    think these schemes are slave labour pure and simple-being forced to do these crap jobs speaks of tyranny

    As a participant on this scheme I will agree. I got my placement in an area I requested and I enjoy working instead of sitting around all day doing nothing, but for 20 euro extra per week the work load is ridiculous. The person I work for takes advantage and regularly states that I must get as much as possible done before my placement ends. The supervisors are sound but they are overworked too, although their payslip would put mine to shame.
    If this scheme was run properly with proper checks carried on participants it would be better but as it stands its just a way to force people into work that nobody would do otherwise.
    1 example, cleaning out a dogs shed covered in wet sh*t and been laughed at wen I requested gloves.


  • #854
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    corsav6 wrote: »
    As a participant on this scheme I will agree. I got my placement in an area I requested and I enjoy working instead of sitting around all day doing nothing, but for 20 euro extra per week the work load is ridiculous. The person I work for takes advantage and regularly states that I must get as much as possible done before my placement ends. The supervisors are sound but they are overworked too, although their payslip would put mine to shame.
    If this scheme was run properly with proper checks carried on participants it would be better but as it stands its just a way to force people into work that nobody would do otherwise.
    1 example, cleaning out a dogs shed covered in wet sh*t and been laughed at wen I requested gloves.
    You have the same rights on these schemes as you have with any job. If you are being abused, speak up and refuse to take it. Have you joined the Union? If not, go to one and they will help you. If your supervisors are as god as you say, they will lok out for you. If not, go to whichever TUS/FAS person that put you forward for the placement and (pardon the pun) take NO sh1t from them.


  • #855
    Ireland..
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 ✭Ireland..


    dodzy wrote: »
    you should be on carers if that's the case.
    he's right there.. my sister is on carers for the same reason


  • #856
    dodzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,302 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    ROY RACE wrote: »
    think these schemes are slave labour pure and simple-being forced to do these crap jobs speaks of tyranny

    We don't force anyone to take up a placement. Don't need to. Plenty of the referred folk actually want to do something, in most cases for their sanity, to get some routine back in their life, to not have to queue every Monday morning at the post office, etc; and we do our absolute best to accomodate them in an area of their choice.

    One of the problems here is the mentality of this "sense of entitlement" in relation to benefits. I heard a story recently of a guy who went into the local office demanding to know why his "wages" were not in the post office. I sh1t you not.


  • #857
    corsav6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,642 ✭✭✭corsav6


    dodzy wrote: »
    We don't force anyone to take up a placement. Don't need to. Plenty of the referred folk actually want to do something, in most cases for their sanity, to get some routine back in their life, to not have to queue every Monday morning at the post office, etc; and we do our absolute best to accomodate them in an area of their choice.

    One of the problems here is the mentality of this "sense of entitlement" in relation to benefits. I heard a story recently of a guy who went into the local office demanding to know why his "wages" were not in the post office. I sh1t you not.

    Are you a supervisor with TUS?


  • #858
    cee_jay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭cee_jay



    MOD NOTE:
    Some posts on this thread are very close to breaking the forum charter (and in some cases are). Posters are reminded to read the forum charter to see what it acceptable or not.
    Also posters on this forum are not posting in any official capacity, and do not have to declare their positions (if any) when questioned on same,

    This is a forum for people to ask for advice, and in some cases may be experiencing difficult personal circumstances. For some people JobBridge may be a good, and welcome choice for them. There is to be no more mention of JobBridge being a scam, fraud, etc (or any discussion among same lines). There may be a home for that kind of discussion on Boards.ie but it definitely isn't here.


  • #859
    mp22
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 6,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭mp22


    Closed for repairs,bannings ect.


  • #860
    mp22
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 6,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭mp22


    Re opened read this before posting. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055070569


  • #861
    Dnaan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 ✭Dnaan


    Gateway and Tus are two completely different schemes
    They should not be compared.

    Tus offers choice, meaningful employment opportunities, also the experience gained by younger folk is very helpful for future career options. A participant is asked to do 19.5 hrs per week in various partitions (which suits both the participant and community group). A participant receives close to €11 per hour for a single person ie. €208 per week and it goes up depending on circumstances not down, and does not lose any of their benefits
    A supervisor receives a similar amount in relation to hrs worked, and does lose all benefits in respect.


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  • #862
    dobbs2210
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭dobbs2210


    Just started a Tus programme this week. Enjoying what I'm doing. Got paid last week through bank a/c. Just wondering is it a set day every week in which the payments are made?
    Last week the money was lodged on Thursday but this week haven't received it yet.


  • #863
    dodzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,302 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    dobbs2210 wrote: »
    Just started a Tus programme this week. Enjoying what I'm doing. Got paid last week through bank a/c. Just wondering is it a set day every week in which the payments are made?
    Last week the money was lodged on Thursday but this week haven't received it yet.
    Yes, Thursday morning regularly. There have been some issues with certain banks processing the payroll transfers which has caused some delays but your money will be there today, for sure;)

    Try again at 10am.


  • #864
    dodzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,302 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    Dnaan wrote: »
    A supervisor receives a similar amount in relation to hrs worked, and does lose all benefits in respect.
    Dunno where your information comes from in this respect Dnaan, but it's incorrect.


  • #865
    corsav6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,642 ✭✭✭corsav6


    @dodzy, are the supervisor positions open to everyone or just former TUS participants. Also would you know how to apply or even where there advertised. I have asked our supervisors but I just keep getting brushed off.
    I previously asked were you a supervisor and it was only to get info about TUS supervisor positions, if you cant provide info for any reason then its no problem.


  • #866
    dodzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,302 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    corsav6 wrote: »
    @dodzy, are the supervisor positions open to everyone or just former TUS participants. Also would you know how to apply or even where there advertised. I have asked our supervisors but I just keep getting brushed off.
    I previously asked were you a supervisor and it was only to get info about TUS supervisor positions, if you cant provide info for any reason then its no problem.
    Conscious of the charter here Corsav but I'm confident that I'm not overstepping any mark.

    It was the case whereby Tus Team Leaders were selected from the actual participants but that was changed in June 2013 which opened the door for anyone to apply.

    Best location for advertisements: Activelink ( and obviously the individual Partnership websites themselves )

    Happy to answer any questions you have.


  • #867
    corsav6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,642 ✭✭✭corsav6


    dodzy wrote: »
    Conscious of the charter here Corsav but I'm confident that I'm not overstepping any mark.

    It was the case whereby Tus Team Leaders were selected from the actual participants but that was changed in June 2013 which opened the door for anyone to apply.

    Best location for advertisements: Activelink ( and obviously the individual Partnership websites themselves )

    Happy to answer any questions you have.

    Thanks a million for that, you would be surprised how hard it is to get any info on supervisor roles.
    I really don't want to sign back on when I'm finished and employment in mayo is very hard come by so I'm hoping to apply for a supervisor job.
    I read the forum rules after the mod warning previous and I don't think we're breaking any rules, but as I asked you for info I take full responsibility if we did break any.
    Thanks again dodzy.


  • #868
    TBP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 265 ✭✭TBP


    @dodzy - Just wondering in general how long would it take after the interview for one to get offered a placement and in this case a placement I know of and more or less asked for at the interview.

    Cheers,


  • #869
    dodzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,302 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    TBP wrote: »
    @dodzy - Just wondering in general how long would it take after the interview for one to get offered a placement and in this case a placement I know of and more or less asked for at the interview.

    Cheers,
    Hi TBP, it would appear that the job is there so really just depends on the following:

    Is it an existing position that is currently filled and is about to become vacant due to a person completing their 12mths or leaving the position for whatever reason?

    Are they forward planning to backfill positions in weeks/months ?

    Every programme has a quota and we are instructed not to exceed that number so how do they stand in regard to placed numbers vs target ?

    Is it possible that more people have requested the same position ? Unusual, granted, but not impossible ?

    Eitherway, you should be fine. I will give you an example of the timeframe assuming the position is vacant:

    You come in for interview. You mention a position that you are interested in. I set up a meeting with the host org. You meet them. Both parties are happy to proceed. I set up your payroll and get you off SW payment. Typically, this could be done in 2 weeks. That would be the quickest possible turnaround realistically.

    No harm in giving them a call. Let us know how you get on.


  • #870
    TBP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 265 ✭✭TBP


    Thanks for the quick reply.

    This is the sitiuation,

    Got letter for interview and almost immediately found out that a particular place in my area are looking to take on 3 people via this scheme. I went and spoke to the guy running this place and he confirmed that they were and have been for over 3 months now he then told me that the TUS supervisor was into him the day before and promised him he'd have 3 lads within a week or two as he was interviewing people within 2 weeks. Anyways the interviews were held nearly 2 weeks ago and from what I could gather 40 people were interviewed, you know how mine went but as of yet I've heard nothing. I'm beginning to think now that me being so eager to get on this scheme might haven given the interviewers the impression that I was genuinely looking for work or not a dosser like a few that were there that day (some made out they couldn't read, write, drive and pulled all sorts of stuff trying to make themselves unavailable or not fit for work) and chose the latter instead. Do you think that might be possible.


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  • #871
    dodzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,302 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    TBP wrote: »
    Thanks for the quick reply.

    This is the sitiuation,

    Got letter for interview and almost immediately found out that a particular place in my area are looking to take on 3 people via this scheme. I went and spoke to the guy running this place and he confirmed that they were and have been for over 3 months now he then told me that the TUS supervisor was into him the day before and promised him he'd have 3 lads within a week or two as he was interviewing people within 2 weeks. Anyways the interviews were held nearly 2 weeks ago and from what I could gather 40 people were interviewed, you know how mine went but as of yet I've heard nothing. I'm beginning to think now that me being so eager to get on this scheme might haven given the interviewers the impression that I was genuinely looking for work or not a dosser like a few that were there that day (some made out they couldn't read, write, drive and pulled all sorts of stuff trying to make themselves unavailable or not fit for work) and chose the latter instead. Do you think that might be possible.
    Anything's possible, but I definitely would not be dismissing you in favour of a "non-trier" because you are more likely to get a job. That's ultimately what you want, and what I want for you. Genuinely, I've had guys & girls come back to me weeks / mths after starting the programme to hand in their notice and I could not be happier for them.

    Advice stands: Ring them and ask. I would always class that as a positive move.


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