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Garda recruitment 2014 info

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  • #542
    redout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout


    carzony wrote: »
    what exactly is involved in the background checks? just family mostly? I have been told several times that aunts and uncles who have convictions wouldnt affect you atall.. maybe if your father or mother have then that could affect you?

    I think it is complete nonsense if the likes of an aunt or uncle has a criminal history and it were to go against you. Parents, brothers, sisters, spouse etc. I could understand to an extent as you would be considered far closer to them. How many people would have frequent contact with an uncle or aunt as opposed to the above? Most families have a black sheep or two I would imagine. Those with large families will find the checks a pain as it involves getting addresses and PPS numbers for everyone afaik.


  • #543
    Andrea345
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭Andrea345


    redout wrote: »
    I think it is complete nonsense if the likes of an aunt or uncle has a criminal history and it were to go against you. Parents, brothers, sisters, spouse etc. I could understand to an extent as you would be considered far closer to them. How many people would have frequent contact with an uncle or aunt as opposed to the above? Most families have a black sheep or two I would imagine. Those with large families will find the checks a pain as it involves getting addresses and PPS numbers for everyone afaik.

    There can be a black sheep in your immediate family too but that still shouldn't affect you if you have lived your life sneaky clean. I would look down on all criminal activity whether it was a family member or not, right is right, wrong is wrong.


  • #544
    billie1b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,897 ✭✭✭billie1b


    So we defo won't get our results until the Irish requested candidates are finished their tests


  • #545
    redout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout


    billie1b wrote: »
    So we defo won't get our results until the Irish requested candidates are finished their tests

    I wouldn't say that for definite as they seem to be getting treated separately to others i.e. persons from all 3 bands are being put through to stage 2. As I mentioned on the Irish thread there is probably a set number of places reserved for native speakers which need to be filled.


  • #546
    D Trent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭D Trent


    redout wrote: »
    I think it is complete nonsense if the likes of an aunt or uncle has a criminal history and it were to go against you. Parents, brothers, sisters, spouse etc. I could understand to an extent as you would be considered far closer to them. How many people would have frequent contact with an uncle or aunt as opposed to the above? Most families have a black sheep or two I would imagine. Those with large families will find the checks a pain as it involves getting addresses and PPS numbers for everyone afaik.

    Addresses PPSNs and DOBs


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  • #547
    Andrea345
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭Andrea345


    D Trent wrote: »
    Addresses PPSNs and DOBs

    Does this include your aunts and uncles through marriage. I think I read on another thread that you give details of aunts and uncles through marriage at one stage then you just include your direct relatives...first cousins etc in another stage? I can't remember though.


  • #548
    mrDerek
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭mrDerek


    If your chucked out cos of what a cousin did is true then that's complete bull. My cousin who I haven't seen since I was a kid gets In Trouble with the guards every so often if it goes against me I'll be fuming


  • #549
    D Trent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭D Trent


    Jaysis my heart goes out to any candidate that might be a distant relative to the likes Larry Murphy r sumone


  • #550
    stargazer9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 ✭stargazer9


    D Trent wrote: »
    Addresses PPSNs and DOBs

    Ah for feck sake! Are we really expected to provide this kind of info for extended family?
    I can totally understand that they will want our parents, siblings, spouses names, addresses and PPS numbers, but cousins???

    I have so many aunts, uncles and cousins that I'm not even sure how many of them there are. I haven't even seen some of them for 20 years or more. I don't know where they live, don't even have a phone number or any way of contacting some of them. How the hell am I going to provide their PPS numbers? Half of them could be criminals for all I know. I wouldn't even recognise some of them if I walked past them in the street


  • #551
    carzony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭carzony


    stargazer9 wrote: »
    Ah for feck sake! Are we really expected to provide this kind of info for extended family?
    I can totally understand that they will want our parents, siblings, spouses names, addresses and PPS numbers, but cousins???

    I have so many aunts, uncles and cousins that I'm not even sure how many of them there are. I haven't even seen some of them for 20 years or more. I don't know where they live, don't even have a phone number or any way of contacting some of them. How the hell am I going to provide their PPS numbers? Half of them could be criminals for all I know. I wouldn't even recognise some of them if I walked past them in the street


    I heard from a lad on here who told me that a super told him that it's extremely unlikely family members having convictions will affect you unless your living with them or somthing like that.. If it did affect you then there wouldnt be any guards atall lol..


    PPS, DOB and ADDRESSES??

    I have 12 on my fathers side and 6 on my mothers side ffs.. I aint seen most of them in 5 years or more.. Surely you don't need to provide that info, If so just tell the truth and say you have no contact with them.. You can't be expected to get that information on people you don't have contact with.


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  • #552
    carzony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭carzony


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=85867506

    I knew I read it on here lol

    ''The super told me that family are not under your control and that what they do/did is/was their choice. As long as your not in a position to be compromised! ''

    And it's Parents, Siblings, Aunts, Uncles Same for your partners side.


  • #553
    OscarWhiskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭OscarWhiskey


    Its probably the same as the background checks (BR Form) for Reserves? So you've to list your immediate family and then your direct aunts and uncles. Just addresses and DOB's, no PPS numbers.

    Could be wrong here.

    AFAIK penalty points (to an extent) aren't seen as a major problem either, well I hope so anyway.


  • #554
    carzony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭carzony


    OscarWhiskey wrote: »
    Its probably the same as the background checks (BR Form) for Reserves? So you've to list your immediate family and then your direct aunts and uncles. Just addresses and DOB's, no PPS numbers.

    Could be wrong here.

    AFAIK penalty points (to an extent) aren't seen as a major problem either, well I hope so anyway.

    sure lads have successfully gotten through the process and been in bigger trouble than that.


  • #555
    Scouser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scouser


    carzony wrote: »
    sure lads have successfully gotten through the process and been in bigger trouble than that.

    in the old days.........


  • #556
    carzony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭carzony


    Scouser wrote: »
    in the old days.........

    I can understand if a candidate had over say 6 points. But to reject a candidate simply because he has a few points would be ridiculous. I have 2 and if that was to affect me then I'd laugh at them.. considering I paid my fine and received the points.. half the country had their points wiped from the system lol


  • #557
    Scouser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scouser


    carzony wrote: »
    I have 2 and if that was to affect me then I'd laugh at them..

    only time will tell who will have the last laugh

    although it would seem harsh, its not beyond reason.,

    best to have no black marks against your name than a small one

    lord knows how strict they may be in order to whittle down candidates


  • #558
    Rothmans
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭Rothmans


    Scouser wrote: »
    only time will tell who will have the last laugh

    although it would seem harsh, its not beyond reason.,

    best to have no black marks against your name than a small one

    lord knows how strict they may be in order to whittle down candidates

    There's no way penalty points are going to be used to whittle down candidates.

    That's coming from someone with a clean licence.


  • #559
    Scouser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scouser


    Rothmans wrote: »
    There's no way penalty points are going to be used to whittle down candidates.

    That's coming from someone with a clean licence.

    i hope not too!

    but just sayin


  • #560
    Kimiko2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭Kimiko2012


    do you have to have a full driving license? does anyone know?


  • #561
    Scouser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scouser


    Kimiko2012 wrote: »
    do you have to have a full driving license? does anyone know?

    nope you dont need one


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  • #562
    Kimiko2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭Kimiko2012


    great thanks, im driving with 4 years but never got round to doing test, have it booked anyway but thought you might need it. thanks again :D


  • #563
    redout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout


    Kimiko2012 wrote: »
    great thanks, im driving with 4 years but never got round to doing test, have it booked anyway but thought you might need it. thanks again :D

    No need. I think AGS sort that for you?


  • #564
    redout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout


    Though some Police forces in the UK actually have it as a requirement before applying.


  • #565
    unattendedbag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭unattendedbag


    redout wrote: »
    No need. I think AGS sort that for you?

    Nope


  • #566
    Scouser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scouser


    redout wrote: »
    Though some Police forces in the UK actually have it as a requirement before applying.

    it was recommended it be implemented a number of years ago but it never came to pass


  • #567
    redout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout


    unattendedbag wrote: »
    Nope

    Really? I remember hearing something before about Gardai not actually being required to hold a license in order to drive a vehicle if it is in the course of their duty or something along those lines. Not sure how accurate that is though.


  • #568
    D Trent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭D Trent


    Kimiko2012 wrote: »
    do you have to have a full driving license? does anyone know?

    IMO it absolutely should be a min requirement for a candidate to have for the role of a garda


  • #569
    Andrea345
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭Andrea345


    D Trent wrote: »
    IMO it absolutely should be a min requirement for a candidate to have for the role of a garda

    Do you not get take driving lessons down there anyway? But it's not the hardest thing to be prepared before you go down.


  • #570
    buckinit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 ✭buckinit


    As far as I know, a drivers license isn't required.

    It would benefit you if you had one ahead of others who don't, especially in the interview/evaluation process.


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  • #571
    Scouser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scouser


    Andrea345 wrote: »
    Do you not get take driving lessons down there anyway? But it's not the hardest thing to be prepared before you go down.

    nope

    driver training is undertaken after your probation

    and only when you are sent on the course. You must already have a DL to do this. the gards dont provide one nor train you for one


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