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Iona vs Panti

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  • #2342
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    [...] mansplaining [...]
    I'm not a fan of femo rhetoric, but that word "mansplain" is simply great.


  • #2343
    aloyisious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,808 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    mansplaining - chokes on bread


  • #2344
    kylith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    robindch wrote: »
    Well, there are some men in dresses who shouldn't be taken seriously.

    295460.jpg
    Isn't it ironic that men who wear dresses are ridiculed and denounced by men who wear dresses?


  • #2345
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    robindch wrote: »
    I'm not a fan of femo rhetoric, but that word "mansplain" is simply great.

    Me neither but a great term is a great term. I did nearly use straightsplain

    :pac:


  • #2346
    ne0ica
    Site Banned Posts: 66 ✭✭ne0ica


    Links234 wrote: »
    How is this even relevent to Bann's point? Nobody cares about transphobic radical feminists and the acceptability of transphobia in general is evaporating quickly, and personally speaking as a transgender woman who is also a lesbian and hangs around with loads of other lesbian woman in my area, I experience practically no transphobia from other women in real life. I also find no experience of prejudice from feminists I know as well, having marched with so many for women's rights in Ireland. Similarly to Panti's experience, I find the only place you can truly be nasty to trans people is either online or if you're a columnist for certain papers.

    But all of that is besides the point, because what you're doing here is merely jumping from one non-sequitur to another, constantly making appeals to prejudices you assume must be common place. You asserted that women should be angry at drag queens, again trying to appeal to prejudice, but when someone comes along and dashes that argument to pieces you don't even respond to that, you go on to make yet another appeal to prejudice by saying "Yeah yeah, but transphobic feminists!"

    You're failing constantly to realize people just don't share those prejudices, and no matter how many times you appeal to that, your argument will fall flat on it's arse.

    good for you and your life story. It's makes me want to take out my old box sets of the L word.


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  • #2347
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    ne0ica wrote: »
    good for you and your life story. It's makes me want to take out my old box sets of the L word.

    And this ladies and gentlemen and everyone else inbetween is what I'm on about when I say non-sequitur.


  • #2348
    ne0ica
    Site Banned Posts: 66 ✭✭ne0ica


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Perhaps you should stop mansplaining and accept that us Lesbian Feminists can speak for ourselves and don't require you to lecture us about what we do and do not approve of or what we should think.

    Is that so. Hadn't noticed any lesbian feminists on TV lately. Even Zappone. There's no room when you have queens like panti and Norris and middle class fag hag bores like bacik


  • #2349
    ne0ica
    Site Banned Posts: 66 ✭✭ne0ica


    Links234 wrote: »
    And this ladies and gentlemen and everyone else inbetween is what I'm on about when I say non-sequitur.

    We'll what exactly is your point. The lesbians let you march with them. That's cute.


  • #2350
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    ne0ica wrote: »
    Is that so. Hadn't noticed any lesbian feminists on TV lately. Even Zappone. There's no room when you have queens like panti and Norris and middle class fag hag bores like bacik

    Oh dear - did you miss my recent appearance on RTE? I wore a 'man's' shirt and trousers too - pity you missed it. Middle Class* Lesbian Feminist in 'drag' talking about being a parent - you would have hated it.

    You do have some issues don't you dear boy - you seem to dislike anyone who dresses in drag (which technically will include pretty much every woman you will ever meet), the Middle Class and heterosexual women who advocate for equal rights for LGBT people.



    *I know I am Middle Class because I went to an Art College...just like Panti...:cool:


  • #2351
    ne0ica
    Site Banned Posts: 66 ✭✭ne0ica


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Oh dear - did you miss my recent appearance on RTE? I wore a 'man's' shirt and trousers too - pity you missed it. Middle Class* Lesbian Feminist in 'drag' talking about being a parent - you would have hated it.

    You do have some issues don't you dear boy - you seem to dislike anyone who dresses in drag (which technically will include pretty much every woman you will ever meet), the Middle Class and heterosexual women who advocate for equal rights for LGBT people.



    *I know I am Middle Class because I went to an Art College...just like Panti...:cool:

    Yea, noting annoys me more than watching poorly dressed people on TV. you should get fashion advice from a gay man.


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  • #2352
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    robindch wrote: »
    [...] your attitude will lead to cards and bans, so tone down the hysterical rhetoric or I'll be reaching for my clue stick.
    ne0ica wrote: »
    Is that so. Hadn't noticed any lesbian feminists on TV lately. Even Zappone. There's no room when you have queens like panti and Norris and middle class fag hag bores like bacik
    Yellow-carded for that. If you can't keep your nasty attitude to yourself, your next card will be red. Or you will be banned.


  • #2353
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    ne0ica wrote: »
    Yea, noting annoys me more than watching poorly dressed people on TV. you should get fashion advice from a gay man.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha....

    Jordi who made my beautiful linen shirt is gong to be very surprised to learn he is not gay...and very annoyed that some under bridge dweller on the internet is so devoid of basic debating skills that the best he can come up with is to accuse someone he hasn't seen of being badly dressed.



    Let's recap your 'points' so far:

    Gay people won't like a drag Queen being their spokesperson.
    Shot Down.

    But Lesbians won't like a man dressed as a women representing them.
    Shot Down.

    But Drag demeans women and Feminists don't like that.
    Shot Down.

    No Lesbian Feminist would approve of Drag Kings.
    Shot Down.

    But what about Transsexuals - Lesbian Feminists don't like them.
    Shot Down.

    Queens, Hags and the Bourgeois something something don't like 'em.
    Shot Down.

    Bannasidhe was badly dressed on a TV show she can't have been on because I haven't seen any Lesbian Feminists on TV but even if she was on it she must have been badly dressed as she wasn't wearing a frock
    Cue laughter...

    Perhaps you should get debating advice from a gay man.


  • #2354
    ne0ica
    Site Banned Posts: 66 ✭✭ne0ica


    robindch wrote: »
    Yellow-carded for that. If you can't keep your nasty attitude to yourself, your next card will be red. Or you will be banned.

    I thought the whole point of this tread was free speech.


  • #2355
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    ne0ica wrote: »
    I thought the whole point of this tread was free speech.
    You can post pretty much what you like here, so long as it's in line with the forum charter. Which you might like to read before continuing to post here.


  • #2356
    ne0ica
    Site Banned Posts: 66 ✭✭ne0ica


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha....

    Jordi who made my beautiful linen shirt is gong to be very surprised to learn he is not gay...and very annoyed that some under bridge dweller on the internet is so devoid of basic debating skills that the best he can come up with is to accuse someone he hasn't seen of being badly dressed.



    Let's recap your 'points' so far:

    Gay people won't like a drag Queen being their spokesperson.
    Shot Down.

    But Lesbians won't like a man dressed as a women representing them.
    Shot Down.

    But Drag demeans women and Feminists don't like that.
    Shot Down.

    No Lesbian Feminist would approve of Drag Kings.
    Shot Down.

    But what about Transsexuals - Lesbian Feminists don't like them.
    Shot Down.

    Queens, Hags and the Bourgeois something something don't like 'em.
    Shot Down.

    Bannasidhe was badly dressed on a TV show she can't have been on because I haven't seen any Lesbian Feminists on TV but even if she was on it she must have been badly dressed as she wasn't wearing a frock
    Cue laughter...

    Perhaps you should get debating advice from a gay man.

    Looks like somebody around here has issues. Anyway the liberal fascists around here are trying to crush my free speech. Surprised you had to run off to the man.


  • #2357
    ne0ica
    Site Banned Posts: 66 ✭✭ne0ica


    robindch wrote: »
    You can post pretty much what you like here, so long as it's in line with the forum charter. Which you might like to read before continuing to post here.

    Look at the amount of posts here where posters are rude and hostile to me. Equality works both ways.


  • #2358
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    ne0ica wrote: »
    Look at the amount of posts here where posters are rude and hostile to me. Equality works both ways.

    Thus far we have you spouting unsupported venom, avoiding any questions raised and garnering the rather predictable response.


  • #2359
    ne0ica
    Site Banned Posts: 66 ✭✭ne0ica


    Nodin wrote: »
    Thus far we have you spouting unsupported venom, avoiding any questions raised and garnering the rather predictable response.

    We've replaced the dogma of Catholic Ireland with modern day liberal fascism. I thought we were supposed to be celebrating diversity.


  • #2360
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    ne0ica wrote: »
    We've replaced the dogma of Catholic Ireland with modern day liberal fascism. I thought we were supposed to be celebrating diversity.


    You might explain to me how your fairly hate filled monomania with a bar owner and performer "celebrates diversity".


  • #2361
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    ne0ica wrote: »
    Looks like somebody around here has issues. Anyway the liberal fascists around here are trying to crush my free speech. Surprised you had to run off to the man.

    There was a man in my shower???? :eek: I hope he was wearing a nice feminine bathing suit.

    Cos that is the only place I ran off too.... I smell minty fresh now. In a butch drag king way obviously.

    But pookie has de bad liberal fascists (might ask that gay man to explain the term oxymoron when you are having those debating lessons) been telling you dat oo cannot call people nasty names? Jeeze - I'm not surprised you are cross -it's usually de fundie Catlicks who complain about that sort of thing in a 'I can say what I like but how veh dare anyone call me on it' kinda way - you know, the way you are doing it...


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  • #2362
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 52,179 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    ne0ica wrote: »
    We've replaced the dogma of Catholic Ireland with modern day liberal fascism. I thought we were supposed to be celebrating diversity.

    says the poster that referred to a drag artist as a 'freak'.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • #2363
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,284 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    ne0ica wrote: »
    We've replaced the dogma of Catholic Ireland with modern day liberal fascism. I thought we were supposed to be celebrating diversity.

    Liberal fascism has to be the stupidest oxymoron I've seen the right wing come out with.


  • #2364
    MsStroggatrix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭MsStroggatrix


    The tiresome free speech means you can't criticize me dragged out again.

    There are consequences and responsibilities to free speech:

    * You can say whatever the hell you like.
    * Others can say whatever the hell they like back - including that they don't like what you said.
    * Inciting riot, violence or hatred will probably get you in trouble for disturbing the peace - Note that you were not, however, stopped from doing so, therefore you had your free speech still.


  • #2365
    ne0ica
    Site Banned Posts: 66 ✭✭ne0ica


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    There was a man in my shower???? :eek: I hope he was wearing a nice feminine bathing suit.

    Cos that is the only place I ran off too.... I smell minty fresh now. In a butch drag king way obviously.

    But pookie has de bad liberal fascists (might ask that gay man to explain the term oxymoron when you are having those debating lessons) been telling you dat oo cannot call people nasty names? Jeeze - I'm not surprised you are cross -it's usually de fundie Catlicks who complain about that sort of thing in a 'I can say what I like but how veh dare anyone call me on it' kinda way - you know, the way you are doing it...

    Can you rephrase that in English please


  • #2366
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    ne0ica wrote: »
    Can you rephrase that in English please


    Would you care to answer my question?

    How does your fairly hate filled monomania with a bar owner and performer 'celebrate diversity'?


  • #2367
    Mr_A
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Mr_A


    ne0ica wrote: »
    Panti isn't even a good looking woman.

    Would you be ok with Panti if you found her more attractive? :confused:


  • #2368
    ne0ica
    Site Banned Posts: 66 ✭✭ne0ica


    Mr_A wrote: »
    Would you be ok with Panti if you found her more attractive? :confused:

    Yes. Too be honest white men in drag look ridiculous.


  • #2369
    ne0ica
    Site Banned Posts: 66 ✭✭ne0ica


    Nodin wrote: »
    Would you care to answer my question?

    How does your fairly hate filled monomania with a bar owner and performer 'celebrate diversity'?

    Guess that's makes me a minority. I demand my rights too.


  • #2370
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 52,179 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    ne0ica wrote: »
    Yes. Too be honest white men in drag look ridiculous.

    very shallow to dismiss an opinion because you're not attracted to the speaker.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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  • #2371
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    ne0ica wrote: »
    Can you rephrase that in English please

    I can. I can even use punctuation if that will aid you.

    I did not 'run to the man' - I went for a shower. I don't care enough about you or your opinion to be offended by you.

    Also, the 'man' (his name is Robin) is perfectly capable of reading your posts and deciding if they infringe the Forum charter all by himself. You had already been warned by 'the man' but appear to have neglected to understand that this warning would result in 'the man' keeping a close eye on you.

    But hey - blame the gay who has been known to do drag if it makes you feel better.

    Liberal Fascist is an oxymoron. One cannot be liberal and fascist.

    This is a privately owned site with rules and regulations which you agreed to abide by - those tasked with enforcing those rules (I am not one of those happy few) decided you were guilty of being naughty and punished you. You then complained that you were being silenced - I made an observation thank I have smelled that deja poo before, usually from fundamental Roman Catholics who seem to believe that can say what they like about others but how very dare anyone respond in kind.


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