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What would you do if you saw a freezing child?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/abandoned-child-probably-just-a-set-up-for-annoying-youtube-thing-2014022183885

    I was AMAZED by what happened next. Plz LIKE and SHARE if you agree with children. <3<3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,035 ✭✭✭uch


    Merkin wrote: »
    The same would apply to dwarves as they'd be approximately chest height too so your luck could still be in ;)


    Hehe, this is one of my favourite thing about being a short arsé, when tall women hug you, you get a face full of Diddy :D

    22/25



  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don't believe for a moment that a kid could sit freezing at a bus stop all day in Ireland and people wouldn't help.

    Irish people are some of the nicest, kindest and warmest people you'd ever meet, and can't be judged by the actions of a few. I've no doubt that people would have that kid bundled up in fleeces and hats within a few minutes.

    Had a little tear in my eye looking at that video. By far the majority of people are good, no matter what the cynics among you have to say :).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭StinkyMunkey


    Merkin wrote: »
    The same would apply to dwarves as they'd be approximately chest height too so your luck could still be in ;)

    Alas, at 5'10 ill just have to make do with a wooly hat :D.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭crazygeryy


    Merkin wrote: »
    Awww. I'd buy him some hot chocolate and a scarf the poor little mite. I'd probably offer him a cuddle in my ample bosom to keep him warm as well but that might be viewed as crossing the line.

    Mmmmmmmmmm bosom.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,119 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Stranger Danger


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    I'd scream at it until it started doing star jumps and Burpees. That would sort the kid right out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 378 ✭✭Catphish


    D1stant wrote: »
    Sometimes you see things that give you an extra faith in humanity

    From Oslo

    http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/ThreeTrending/video-how-strangers-react-to-seeing-a-freezing-boy-at-a-bus-stop-30029950.html

    What would happen here?
    That was heart-warming to watch, really was. It is nice to see that there are some good people in the world, amongst so much negativity we're surrounded by.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭Miss Mayhem


    If it was me, I'd take the kid to a nearby cafe and buy him a hot chocolate and a bowl of soup to warm him up and phone his parents to come get him. It's the right thing to do. Lending the kid your coat for a few minutes until your bus comes isn't going to help him much.


  • Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Candie wrote: »
    I don't believe for a moment that a kid could sit freezing at a bus stop all day in Ireland and people wouldn't help.

    Irish people are some of the nicest, kindest and warmest people you'd ever meet, and can't be judged by the actions of a few. I've no doubt that people would have that kid bundled up in fleeces and hats within a few minutes.

    Had a little tear in my eye looking at that video. By far the majority of people are good, no matter what the cynics among you have to say :).

    All of this.

    I don't doubt for a second that I would have done the very same as others in that video.

    If you think "Irish people" wouldn't help - change it - you're Irish too. Open your eyes, look around you, help your fellow human being whenever you can, make the world a better place.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,746 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    I remember reading that in the past to avoid hypothermia in extreme conditions people would rub snow into exposed skin. So I'd pick up a handful of snow and up it into the kids face.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,676 ✭✭✭Blitzkrieger


    uch wrote: »
    Hehe, this is one of my favourite thing about being a short arsé, when tall women hug you, you get a face full of Diddy :D

    I have a friend who takes full advantage - he always hugs his male friends so he can hug their wives too! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Two things here :

    1) Scandinavian countries and North American countries etc get extremely cold weather and people are much more acutely aware of how dangerous it is. I have been given out to in the street in Sweden for not having ear protection by total strangers. I just didn't realise how cold it was.

    2) a lot of people here would intervene and even more would call the Gardai.

    3) Men in particular increasingly won't approach kids in trouble at all due to social paranoia that assumes all males are paedophiles.
    I know of one case where a security guard in a shopping centre attempting to locate a lost toddler's mother had her screaming 'get away from my child you pervert' at him. This was a uniformed security guard in full public view with CCTV everywhere.

    I don't think this is the case outside English-speaking countries.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    Sauve wrote: »
    But that shouldn't stop you doing the right thing. Just cos other people are cnuts doesn't give us the right to act the same way.

    I'd like to think I'd help the kid....but it's easy to say here when I don't have to make a snap decision.
    Aaannnnd now I feel like a cnut for saying that!

    And then you end up on the Sex Offenders Register. Welcome to 21st century Ireland


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    I remember reading that in the past to avoid hypothermia in extreme conditions people would rub snow into exposed skin. So I'd pick up a handful of snow and up it into the kids face.

    Another one destined for the "Joy"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,463 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    D1stant wrote: »
    What would happen here?

    I'd walk past.

    Not going to have myself painted as a predator for life on the back of a single kind gesture. Waaaaay too risky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭ygolometsipe


    buy the child a first class ticket to Oslo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    I would most likely call a local Garda station or even alert a passing Garda.

    I've done that a good few times where I've seen a homeless person in a bad way.

    Me intervening on my own wouldn't necessarily be much. The kid would need to be put in touch with someome who could help properly.

    I intervened recently where an old lady clearly had either dementia or severe Alzheimer's and was just standing on the street outside our office for hours.

    Just went out and had a chat and tried to figure out if we could contract anyone for her.
    She had no idea where she was really.

    I got onto the local Garda station and they sent out a very helpful garda and we figured out who to call as she eventually remembered her son's phone number. The whole thing was resolved but I just stayed around until I was sure she was sorted.

    The family rang afterwards and said thanks.

    I'm not sure that a kid out in cool weather here would cause as big a reaction as in Norway, Sweden or any country that experiences regular very cold weather though.

    There's a serious risk of actually freezing to death in many of those places.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Interesting. That I got a forced ad put upon me when I clicked the video. For calor gas Ffs.....

    As some people have raised as a man I would think twice before approaching any child in public these days and I have young kids of my own.

    I spotted a kid in a shopping centre who was crying and looked lost and rather than going over myself I found my girl and told her to go over.

    There is definitely a stigma over here now about going to help a lost child etc. It is rather a sad state of affairs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Yeah big time. It's gone way too far.
    Very very few people are predatory paedophiles.

    I would be more concerned that strangers would ignore a kid rather than that they might harm them.

    I know guys who seem nervous of playing with friend's kids for those kinds of reasons too. It's really very sad.

    I had really good positive male role models as a kid, particularly in France but also here before paranoia kicked in.

    I mean people like uncles, cousins, neighbours, teachers etc who actually got down to my level and interacted with me, played games etc. Some of my best memories are learning about cars and techie stuff and hanging out with my granddad and other guys too when I was under 5! I also remember some very cool male teachers, coaches and even just random neighbours and shop keepers and stuff.

    As a guy, I think that stuff actually was really, really important to me growing up. I looked up to these guys and most definitely they had a huge influence how I saw myself.

    I can't imagine what it would be like not to have had that kind of upbringing or to have been made feel I should be constantly frightened of adult males.

    I'm not saying I didn't have similarly positive relationships with women too but, I just think excluding men from interaction with kids is going to be very bad for society in the long term.

    It's even starting to extend to unfamiliar women now too. Everyone is suddenly a potential threat.

    I think the biggest threat here always was that abuses could be covered up due to social pressures to not speak or report them (now gone) and transparency didn't exist in institutional situations where individuals had way too much power and control over kids or vulnerable adults.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 477 ✭✭Stella Virgo


    Merkin wrote: »
    Awww. I'd buy him some hot chocolate and a scarf the poor little mite. I'd probably offer him a cuddle in my ample bosom to keep him warm as well but that might be viewed as crossing the line.

    i am feeling a but cold now ;)..........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    And then you end up on the Sex Offenders Register. Welcome to 21st century Ireland

    Sex Offenders Register for giving a cold child a coat?
    Come round to yourself now you're exaggerating just a wee bit there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Sauve wrote: »
    Sex Offenders Register for giving a cold child a coat?
    Come round to yourself now you're exaggerating just a wee bit there.

    That's how some people think nowadays though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,067 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Sauve wrote: »
    That's my point though, we shouldn't be afraid of doing the right thing regardless.

    If someone accused me of being a molester for helping a kid then they can pïss right off tbh.

    We can't pander to this kind of bull

    You're female though, to be fair. Changes things slightly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Of course Irish people would give a very cold little boy some warm clothing. What is with this "edgy" cynicism for the sake of it? Oh yeh, it's fashionable. :rolleyes:
    Some really dumb sh1t gets said about Irish people by Irish people, for absolutely no reason other than it being "the thing to say". I find here on Boards anyway the same people who drone that rubbish are also the the same people who seem to be very much lacking in compassion, so I guess they're... talking about themselves?

    Some people would think the child is there as a beggar's prop, that is true, but that doesn't mean others wouldn't help him.

    It's true about the paranoia towards men having dealings with children (paranoia from a small but vocal minority) but just actually think about things for a moment: a child is really cold, someone gives him warm clothing... anyone will think "Very cold child, adult helping them as they should" not "Oh, he must be a paedo." And no, they wouldn't end up on the sex offenders' register. Christ. And anyone who DID accuse them of being a paedophile would be laughed at for the lunatic they are.
    Come on now. The pendulum has swung too far at times, but don't give it cause to swing in yet another crazy direction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,067 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Come on now. The pendulum has swung too far at times, but don't give it cause to swing in yet another crazy direction.
    Do you often have people cross the street to avoid you, or say "behave or that bad lady over there will take you away"?
    If someone threw an accusation at you, and it was a "your word against theirs" scenario - would the bias be instantly stacked against you?

    I get that this scenario might be slightly different, but in general, I don't think that guys who would exercise caution in this scenario are trying to be either "edgy" or "fashionable". For peace of mind, if you're on your own, avoid children and drunk women :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Do you often have people cross the street to avoid you, or say "behave or that bad lady over there will take you away"?
    If someone threw an accusation at you, and it was a "your word against theirs" scenario - would the bias be instantly stacked against you?

    I get that this scenario might be slightly different, but in general, I don't think that guys who would exercise caution in this scenario are trying to be either "edgy" or "fashionable". For peace of mind, if you're on your own, avoid children and drunk women :P
    I'm referring more to the people saying "Durrrr... Irish people wouldn't help out".
    The fear of being viewed as a paedophile is a valid one unfortunately, but it does not apply in every situation, especially not this one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 yayabalexreya


    Nothing to see here.

    This is a normal trait of humanity, we give kindness to the vulnerable. This would happen in any country in the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,067 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    I'm referring more to the people saying "Durrrr... Irish people wouldn't help out".
    The fear of being viewed as a paedophile is a valid one unfortunately, but it does not apply in every situation, especially not this one.
    I've not seen anyone say "Durrr... Irish people wouldn't help out", or the equivalent, anywhere :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    Ficheall wrote: »
    You're female though, to be fair. Changes things slightly.

    Technically speaking, I'm just as capable of abusing/hurting a child as any man. To assume that I wouldn't simply because I'm a girl is a tad naive.


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