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What would you do if you saw a freezing child?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    He would have his shoes robbed off him over here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,618 ✭✭✭Mr Freeze


    D1stant wrote: »
    What would happen here?

    You might try to help, but then the mother would appear screaming "Get away of my child"...

    Or that would enter you head when you thought of helping, then you would just walk past.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    I was given hot whiskey as a child if i was freezing from the cold, the only stuff to warm you up.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭jane82


    You would get called a molester here for giving a strangers child a coat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Ask the child if they thought they were cool.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    jane82 wrote: »
    You would get called a molester here for giving a strangers child a coat.

    But that shouldn't stop you doing the right thing. Just cos other people are cnuts doesn't give us the right to act the same way.

    I'd like to think I'd help the kid....but it's easy to say here when I don't have to make a snap decision.
    Aaannnnd now I feel like a cnut for saying that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    In Ireland this would have happened.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,557 ✭✭✭KeithM89


    Laugh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,618 ✭✭✭Mr Freeze


    Sauve wrote: »
    But that shouldn't stop you doing the right thing. Just cos other people are cnuts doesn't give us the right to act the same way.

    We might want to help, but might be afraid to if someone is going to accuse you of being a molester.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    Awww. I'd buy him some hot chocolate and a scarf the poor little mite. I'd probably offer him a cuddle in my ample bosom to keep him warm as well but that might be viewed as crossing the line.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    Merkin wrote: »
    Awww. I'd buy him some hot chocolate and a scarf the poor little mite. I'd probably offer him a cuddle in my ample bosom to keep him warm as well but that might be viewed as crossing the line.


    Niiiiiiiice


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 165 ✭✭Baze


    Does anyone know the precise location of that bus stop?

    Think I might go over and sit there shivering in my boxers until the blonde at 1:43 shows up to rescue me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I'd sell him some gear, help take the edge off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    Merkin wrote: »
    I'd probably offer him a cuddle in my ample bosom to keep him warm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    thaw it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭RoboRat


    Awww. I'd buy him some hot chocolate and a scarf the poor little mite. I'd probably offer him a cuddle in my ample bosom to keep him warm as well but that might be viewed as crossing the line.

    I'm cold... where did you say you were again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭cml387


    A freezing child? Try switching it off and then on again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    I tell him to take his "social experiment" and jog on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    Probably do nothing

    Secretly, I'd want to punch them in the face


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    Mr Freeze wrote: »
    We might want to help, but might be afraid to if someone is going to accuse you of being a molester.

    That's my point though, we shouldn't be afraid of doing the right thing regardless.

    If someone accused me of being a molester for helping a kid then they can pïss right off tbh.

    We can't pander to this kind of bull


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    Sauve wrote: »
    That's my point though, we shouldn't be afraid of doing the right thing regardless.

    If someone accused me of being a molester for helping a kid then they can pïss right off tbh.

    We can't pander to this kind of bull

    You'd be surprised the lengths some cranks will go too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,618 ✭✭✭Mr Freeze


    Sauve wrote: »
    If someone accused me of being a molester for helping a kid then they can pïss right off tbh.

    We can't pander to this kind of bull

    Agreed, but when the cops show up, and you can't get a word in edge ways causing of the accusations being screamed at ya.

    Sadly this is the way of things, you are more likely to get in trouble than be thanked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,738 ✭✭✭Naos


    From the article "And the answer may surprise you."

    It didn't surprise me in the slightest, I would've been surprised if people didn't give him a jacket.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭wil


    In Ireland
    There'd be a tribunal set up to investigate the actions of the charity on the grounds it had risked the health of a minor and the whole point would be lost.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    Mr Freeze wrote: »
    Agreed, but when the cops show up, and you can't get a word in edge ways causing of the accusations being screamed at ya.

    Sadly this is the way of things, you are more likely to get in trouble than be thanked.


    Absolutely, but there are also a culture of people who won't help and use exactly this as an excuse to turn their heads rather than dig in and help out.
    The chances of getting in major trouble for innocently helping someone are quite small really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,618 ✭✭✭Mr Freeze


    Sauve wrote: »
    Absolutely, but there are also a culture of people who won't help and use exactly this as an excuse to turn their heads rather than dig in and help out.
    The chances of getting in major trouble for innocently helping someone are quite small really.

    Agreed I take your point.

    I'd would like to help, but there is a good chance I wouldn't help, for the reasons stated above.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    WikiHow wrote: »
    I was given hot whiskey as a child if i was freezing from the cold, the only stuff to warm you up.

    Alcohol dilates your blood vessels, increasing heat loss. It's one of the worst things you can give to someone with hypothermia. Your parents might have been trying to kill you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭StinkyMunkey


    Merkin wrote: »
    Awww. I'd buy him some hot chocolate and a scarf the poor little mite. I'd probably offer him a cuddle in my ample bosom to keep him warm as well but that might be viewed as crossing the line.

    Makes a guy wish he was a ten year old kid freezing his nuts off :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    Naos wrote: »
    From the article "And the answer may surprise you."

    It didn't surprise me in the slightest, I would've been surprised if people didn't give him a jacket.

    Yes. I think exactly the same thing would happen in Ireland, if anything someone would go overboard with kindness, that would leave it open to question by some cynical scrote


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    Makes a guy wish he was a ten year old kid freezing his nuts off :P

    The same would apply to dwarves as they'd be approximately chest height too so your luck could still be in ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/abandoned-child-probably-just-a-set-up-for-annoying-youtube-thing-2014022183885

    I was AMAZED by what happened next. Plz LIKE and SHARE if you agree with children. <3<3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭uch


    Merkin wrote: »
    The same would apply to dwarves as they'd be approximately chest height too so your luck could still be in ;)


    Hehe, this is one of my favourite thing about being a short arsé, when tall women hug you, you get a face full of Diddy :D

    21/25



  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don't believe for a moment that a kid could sit freezing at a bus stop all day in Ireland and people wouldn't help.

    Irish people are some of the nicest, kindest and warmest people you'd ever meet, and can't be judged by the actions of a few. I've no doubt that people would have that kid bundled up in fleeces and hats within a few minutes.

    Had a little tear in my eye looking at that video. By far the majority of people are good, no matter what the cynics among you have to say :).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭StinkyMunkey


    Merkin wrote: »
    The same would apply to dwarves as they'd be approximately chest height too so your luck could still be in ;)

    Alas, at 5'10 ill just have to make do with a wooly hat :D.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭crazygeryy


    Merkin wrote: »
    Awww. I'd buy him some hot chocolate and a scarf the poor little mite. I'd probably offer him a cuddle in my ample bosom to keep him warm as well but that might be viewed as crossing the line.

    Mmmmmmmmmm bosom.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Stranger Danger


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    I'd scream at it until it started doing star jumps and Burpees. That would sort the kid right out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 378 ✭✭Catphish


    D1stant wrote: »
    Sometimes you see things that give you an extra faith in humanity

    From Oslo

    http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/ThreeTrending/video-how-strangers-react-to-seeing-a-freezing-boy-at-a-bus-stop-30029950.html

    What would happen here?
    That was heart-warming to watch, really was. It is nice to see that there are some good people in the world, amongst so much negativity we're surrounded by.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭Miss Mayhem


    If it was me, I'd take the kid to a nearby cafe and buy him a hot chocolate and a bowl of soup to warm him up and phone his parents to come get him. It's the right thing to do. Lending the kid your coat for a few minutes until your bus comes isn't going to help him much.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Candie wrote: »
    I don't believe for a moment that a kid could sit freezing at a bus stop all day in Ireland and people wouldn't help.

    Irish people are some of the nicest, kindest and warmest people you'd ever meet, and can't be judged by the actions of a few. I've no doubt that people would have that kid bundled up in fleeces and hats within a few minutes.

    Had a little tear in my eye looking at that video. By far the majority of people are good, no matter what the cynics among you have to say :).

    All of this.

    I don't doubt for a second that I would have done the very same as others in that video.

    If you think "Irish people" wouldn't help - change it - you're Irish too. Open your eyes, look around you, help your fellow human being whenever you can, make the world a better place.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    I remember reading that in the past to avoid hypothermia in extreme conditions people would rub snow into exposed skin. So I'd pick up a handful of snow and up it into the kids face.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,660 ✭✭✭Blitzkrieger


    uch wrote: »
    Hehe, this is one of my favourite thing about being a short arsé, when tall women hug you, you get a face full of Diddy :D

    I have a friend who takes full advantage - he always hugs his male friends so he can hug their wives too! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Two things here :

    1) Scandinavian countries and North American countries etc get extremely cold weather and people are much more acutely aware of how dangerous it is. I have been given out to in the street in Sweden for not having ear protection by total strangers. I just didn't realise how cold it was.

    2) a lot of people here would intervene and even more would call the Gardai.

    3) Men in particular increasingly won't approach kids in trouble at all due to social paranoia that assumes all males are paedophiles.
    I know of one case where a security guard in a shopping centre attempting to locate a lost toddler's mother had her screaming 'get away from my child you pervert' at him. This was a uniformed security guard in full public view with CCTV everywhere.

    I don't think this is the case outside English-speaking countries.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    Sauve wrote: »
    But that shouldn't stop you doing the right thing. Just cos other people are cnuts doesn't give us the right to act the same way.

    I'd like to think I'd help the kid....but it's easy to say here when I don't have to make a snap decision.
    Aaannnnd now I feel like a cnut for saying that!

    And then you end up on the Sex Offenders Register. Welcome to 21st century Ireland


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    I remember reading that in the past to avoid hypothermia in extreme conditions people would rub snow into exposed skin. So I'd pick up a handful of snow and up it into the kids face.

    Another one destined for the "Joy"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    D1stant wrote: »
    What would happen here?

    I'd walk past.

    Not going to have myself painted as a predator for life on the back of a single kind gesture. Waaaaay too risky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭ygolometsipe


    buy the child a first class ticket to Oslo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    I would most likely call a local Garda station or even alert a passing Garda.

    I've done that a good few times where I've seen a homeless person in a bad way.

    Me intervening on my own wouldn't necessarily be much. The kid would need to be put in touch with someome who could help properly.

    I intervened recently where an old lady clearly had either dementia or severe Alzheimer's and was just standing on the street outside our office for hours.

    Just went out and had a chat and tried to figure out if we could contract anyone for her.
    She had no idea where she was really.

    I got onto the local Garda station and they sent out a very helpful garda and we figured out who to call as she eventually remembered her son's phone number. The whole thing was resolved but I just stayed around until I was sure she was sorted.

    The family rang afterwards and said thanks.

    I'm not sure that a kid out in cool weather here would cause as big a reaction as in Norway, Sweden or any country that experiences regular very cold weather though.

    There's a serious risk of actually freezing to death in many of those places.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Interesting. That I got a forced ad put upon me when I clicked the video. For calor gas Ffs.....

    As some people have raised as a man I would think twice before approaching any child in public these days and I have young kids of my own.

    I spotted a kid in a shopping centre who was crying and looked lost and rather than going over myself I found my girl and told her to go over.

    There is definitely a stigma over here now about going to help a lost child etc. It is rather a sad state of affairs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Yeah big time. It's gone way too far.
    Very very few people are predatory paedophiles.

    I would be more concerned that strangers would ignore a kid rather than that they might harm them.

    I know guys who seem nervous of playing with friend's kids for those kinds of reasons too. It's really very sad.

    I had really good positive male role models as a kid, particularly in France but also here before paranoia kicked in.

    I mean people like uncles, cousins, neighbours, teachers etc who actually got down to my level and interacted with me, played games etc. Some of my best memories are learning about cars and techie stuff and hanging out with my granddad and other guys too when I was under 5! I also remember some very cool male teachers, coaches and even just random neighbours and shop keepers and stuff.

    As a guy, I think that stuff actually was really, really important to me growing up. I looked up to these guys and most definitely they had a huge influence how I saw myself.

    I can't imagine what it would be like not to have had that kind of upbringing or to have been made feel I should be constantly frightened of adult males.

    I'm not saying I didn't have similarly positive relationships with women too but, I just think excluding men from interaction with kids is going to be very bad for society in the long term.

    It's even starting to extend to unfamiliar women now too. Everyone is suddenly a potential threat.

    I think the biggest threat here always was that abuses could be covered up due to social pressures to not speak or report them (now gone) and transparency didn't exist in institutional situations where individuals had way too much power and control over kids or vulnerable adults.


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