Season 4, Episode 10 - Inmates [AMC] [SPOILERS]

irishfeen · 18-02-2014 12:47AM

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Jaysus i'm not even a father or anything but did anyone else find that that suffocating scene damn hard to watch - I knew it was acting but it would still send shivers down your spine.

willmunny1990 · 18-02-2014 12:52AM

gavmcg92 wrote: »

Have to say, I didn't really like this episode. The only thing I got out of this week was that I have little interest in any of the other characters in this show. Found myself checking the time bar as it played through a couple of times. I felt like a lot of the meet ups / tracking finds were far too forced. I guess it's understandable though. I'm sure the writers just wanted to get all of these individual stories rolling so we're not going back to prison over and over again.

Not too sure about the three new characters either. Far too comical for me... the red neck marine and his gum chewing, hoop earring wearing side kick.

I guess I'll just have to wait until next week to see where it goes.

I thought the exact same thing, almost cartoonish.

Washington Irving · 18-02-2014 12:54AM

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CastorTroy wrote: »

Maybe it's just been a while, but has Maggoe's accent always been so strong?

Noticed that too, made me pause for a minute.

Didn't enjoy it as much as last week's and I can see the two kids and Judith annoying the hell out of me, was almost willing for one of them to get eaten. Will be interesting to see how Carol's return develops if they meet up with Rick, I suspect he'll keep quiet though. Looking forward to ep 11.

Mezcita · 18-02-2014 12:57AM

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Who the hell gave this 10 out of 10!?!?!

naughto · 18-02-2014 12:58AM

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irishfeen wrote: »

Jaysus i'm not even a father or anything but did anyone else find that that suffocating scene damn hard to watch - I knew it was acting but it would still send shivers down your spine.

ya i have a 4 month onld baby boy and it was not nice,but it had to be in it to show how ****1ed up that child is in the head.
how was she catching all the bunnies?
you man running off leaving the two girls on there own what was he thinking.
dident he get bit b 4 the xmass break or was he just hurt?

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 18-02-2014 01:05AM

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Mezcita wrote: »

Who the hell gave this 10 out of 10!?!?!

People who like to like things and not criticise everything as if it were a leaving cert English exam probably.
I gave it 10 out of 10, because I'm also allowed to have an opinion that differs to your own.
We don't all have to hate it just because that's the "popular concensus" - kinda what makes us all individual. The world would be pretty dull if everyone agreed all the time.

:rolleyes:

Sudden Valley · 18-02-2014 01:23AM

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Enjoyed this better than last weeks but perhaps only because I hate Carl and Michonne. I agree that Maggies accent was strange like she stepped out of Gone with the Wind.

CastorTroy · 18-02-2014 01:29AM

CaptainNegative wrote: »

People who like to like things and not criticise everything as if it were a leaving cert English exam probably.
I gave it 10 out of 10, because I'm also allowed to have an opinion that differs to your own.
We don't all have to hate it just because that's the "popular concensus" - kinda what makes us all individual. The world would be pretty dull if everyone agreed all the time.

:rolleyes:

Well you are Captain Negative. Or maybe being negative about an episode that others are being negative about, makes it a double negative, resulting in a positive score.

Or something.

Mezcita · 18-02-2014 02:12AM

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CaptainNegative wrote: »

People who like to like things and not criticise everything as if it were a leaving cert English exam probably.
I gave it 10 out of 10, because I'm also allowed to have an opinion that differs to your own.
We don't all have to hate it just because that's the "popular concensus" - kinda what makes us all individual. The world would be pretty dull if everyone agreed all the time.

:rolleyes:

Not the rolley eyed smiley. Anything but that. That's just plain low.

Congrats on liking things but honestly the quality of this show can be so hit and miss. The last two episodes have been (in my opinion as it's all about opinions) just dull. If this is a ten it puts it up there with the best episodes from the likes of The Wire, Breaking Bad, Deadwood etc. Not even in the same league.

:rolleyes:

meoklmrk91 · 18-02-2014 02:22AM

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Have to say like pretty much everyone else, that scene with Lizzie and Judith was seriously disturbing, I kept waiting for the camera to go back and for her to be blue or something, and she was mutilating the weirdly still rabbits as well, psychopath in the making.

Glad to see Carol back, it was certainly a nice surprise, will be interesting to see how it pans out when they eventually meet up with Rick.

The whole Maggie, Sasha and guy who's name I don't know Thung was fairly boring as was the Darryl/Beth stuff but I guess they kind of had to so that we would know who was alive and stuff.

Best part of the episode for me was Michael Cudlitz stepping out of that jeep, anyone is familiar with Southland will know why.

Mokuba · 18-02-2014 04:07AM

Yeah the Lizzie storyline will be interesting. Basically confirmed that she was doing all the strange stuff at the prison, and I'll also wager, although I'm sure many others have come to this conclusion, that she burnt the bodies, not Carol - and Carol took the fall for her.

Need to keep Tara around for a bit, she has potential as a character.

Liking the change of pace thus far.

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 18-02-2014 04:41AM

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Mezcita wrote: »

Not the rolley eyed smiley. Anything but that. That's just plain low.

Congrats on liking things but honestly the quality of this show can be so hit and miss. The last two episodes have been (in my opinion as it's all about opinions) just dull. If this is a ten it puts it up there with the best episodes from the likes of The Wire, Breaking Bad, Deadwood etc. Not even in the same league.

:rolleyes:

You can't compare a 10/10 for The Walking Dead to a 10/10 for The Wire or Breaking Bad. It's like comparing apples to oranges - you rate episodes of the show against it's former episodes, not other TV shows. If you're rating every episode of The Walking Dead against the every episode of The Wire, every episode of The Walking Dead would be less than a 1/10 - the shows are not of the same standard.
But for an episode of The Walking Dead this one was up there for me - I liked the style in which the episode unfolded, I liked that Daryl has essentially given up because it adds to his status as an anti-hero, I liked that of all the groups Carol could have met up with it was Tyrese, I liked the contrast between Lizzie and Mika, I like the desire that Maggie and Glenn have to reunite with one another, I like that Tara gets a shot at redemption, I liked that right at the heart of it this episode was simply about the characters and how they're coping, I liked that Rick and Carl weren't in it because they're pretty much my least favourite characters, and as a fan of the comics I loved the introduction of Abraham, Eugene and Rosita even if it was only 10 seconds.
There wasn't anything I didn't like about the episode, so why wouldn't I give it 10 out of 10. I can accept that many people didn't like the episode and don't go around trying to convince people that their opinion is wrong, so why can't you accept that other people liked the episode which you deemed dull?

We live in a zombie-free world, so live and let live, because who knows when it will all come crashing down.

Timmyctc · 18-02-2014 06:00AM

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After the promise of the midseason finale, the show is going back to the same mindless idiotic things as before. The whole episodes set in forestry are irritating. Stealthy zombies (I mean come on, they make enough noise and the forest isn't really that dense) I know it sounds pernickity but they just change the zombies 'abilities' every episode to suit themselves. Zombies can rip peoples intestines apart and knock down fences in maximum security prisons?

Zombie also cant overpower a small girl and a swarm can be easily pushed out of the way if you have riot gear on. The Glenn scene itself was fair ridiculous.

They're doing too much of the "OHHH did we kill off a main character? Find out in the next 20 seconds that we didnt!" as seen with the young girl's shoe and the scene with maggie and non zombie glenn. I mean come now. They even dressed them the same to try manufacture some suspense in the show. All in all, its a long long long long way from Season 1 and 2

Sideshow Mark · 18-02-2014 08:00AM

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They kill off "main characters" all the time. At least one per season gets it. I think Rick and Carl are the only two that are actually safe.

I'm glad they are a long way from Season 2, because all the Hershals Farm episodes were awful. Ricks wife was horribly written, and contradicted herself every episode. Came close to abandoning the show right there.

This week was a big improvement on last weeks, but the scenes with the bus were ridiculous.

gavmcg92 · 18-02-2014 10:37AM

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Sideshow Mark wrote: »

They kill off "main characters" all the time. At least one per season gets it. I think Rick and Carl are the only two that are actually safe.

I have to admit, they got me in the first episode. I thought Rick had passed. Mind you, I watched it just after the first episode of house of cards so I was in the mindset that anything could happen! :P

As for Rick and Carl. I seem to be the only one here who is far more interested in their relationship and story than the other characters in this series. Perhaps I have a slight interest in the Maggie and Glen element to the show but other than that, the other characters just bore me. This is coming from someone who loved each and everyone of the characters in season 1/2.

thebostoncrab · 18-02-2014 11:14AM

I really don't get the high level of negativity that follows The Walking Dead almost every week, I swear it comes across as people just watching the show with the idea that they will hate the episode before it even starts. The only time I ever seem to read high praise is when the episodes are all action and someone is killed off, which would be boring to watch every single week.

I really enjoyed the episode, very curious to see what they do with the two girls and if they take the place of the two boys in the comics. The smothering scene was tense, I can understand why some people were disturbed by it for sure. Delighted that Abraham has been introduced, one of the most interesting characters in the comics and certainly a live wire!

pixelburp · 18-02-2014 12:21PM

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thebostoncrab wrote: »

I really don't get the high level of negativity that follows The Walking Dead almost every week, I swear it comes across as people just watching the show with the idea that they will hate the episode before it even starts. The only time I ever seem to read high praise is when the episodes are all action and someone is killed off, which would be boring to watch every single week.

So if it's not high praise it's bitter negativity? I gotta say, in all the time I've watched TV, or spoken with people who enjoy a good TV drama, I've not known anyone to watch a show just to hate on it, or do it myself.

Walking Dead is a good show when it wants to be - I wouldn't keep watching myself otherwise - but it frequently frustrates in that it compliments some great scripting with some truly hamfisted examples; no better example of this than the entirety of season 2. It's annoying because the show could be easily spoken in the same breath as the likes of Breaking Bad, True Detectives and all the other 'must watch' TV, yet it never quite gets there.

If you enjoyed the episode without reservation that's great, good to hear you're enjoying it

but don't dump on others because there's a desire to debate and discuss the show for all its strengths and failings. The show has its faults, and calling it out on them is just part of TV discussion.

Zero-Cool · 18-02-2014 12:23PM

6

I thought it was really good anyway, the show continues to display the despair from the comics and I've noticed a huge difference in Season 4 compared to the rest, has to do with the new showrunner imo.

Best part was seeing Cudlitz as Abraham. I miss SouthLAnd

Sideshow Mark · 18-02-2014 02:27PM

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pixelburp wrote: »

So if it's not high praise it's bitter negativity? I gotta say, in all the time I've watched TV, or spoken with people who enjoy a good TV drama, I've not known anyone to watch a show just to hate on it

You should try some of the Doctor Who forums right after a new episode airs.

Leftist · 18-02-2014 02:31PM

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i've quite enjoyed the first two of the second half of the season.

back to basics, intense zombie fare. you can't make 4 seasons of just that but i enjoyed them.

last nights was quite tense imo. the older of the two sisters is up to no good.

the show is always going to be ridiculous, implausible and predictable, but I still enjoy it.

I went back and watched some of season 2 recently. I don't know how closely it's following the comics but basically
less women = less soap opera = better show

GrumPy · 18-02-2014 02:37PM

3

This was one of my least favorite episodes. So boring compared to others, and the acting by the two little girls was god awful. The big guy with the baby was particularly woeful in this episode too.

I gave it a 4/10. Everyone is entitled to their opinion; 10/10 or even 9 or 8 out of ten for this episode is crazy talk though. CRAZY!

pixelburp · 18-02-2014 02:50PM

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Sideshow Mark wrote: »

You should try some of the Doctor Who forums right after a new episode airs.

Replace 'Doctor Who' with 'any genre TV show', and yeah you probably have a point; though in genre TV's case I'd argue that the crazy ranting tends to come from overzealous love mutating into anger over the show not reflecting a viewer's desires or preferences. I can't say I've ever seen someone hate a show from the outset and just watch to fuel that hate.

Happily the Dr. Who forum here is a pretty sound and friendly place, so maybe I'm just too cosseted and have forgotten the horror

Leftist wrote: »

[...]
I went back and watched some of season 2 recently. I don't know how closely it's following the comics but basically
less women = less soap opera = better show

Fewer badly-written women more like. The problem wasn't with the gender it was with the scriptwriting; the presence of women shouldn't automatically degenerate legitimate plotting into soap opera, but Walking Dead had some of the worst written females on a mainstream TV show - and that's saying something.

Leftist · 18-02-2014 03:06PM

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pixelburp wrote: »

Fewer badly-written women more like. The problem wasn't with the gender it was with the scriptwriting; the presence of women shouldn't automatically degenerate legitimate plotting into soap opera, but Walking Dead had some of the worst written females on a mainstream TV show - and that's saying something.

agreed. There are plenty of women in it now of course. It just seemed perhaps they were trying to target the female demograph a bit more with that tedious rubbish around romantic sub-plots.

lori leaving was the best thing to happen to the survivors tbh.

Greyjoy · 18-02-2014 04:31PM

I enjoyed it more than last week's episode mainly because it gave some answers as to the fate of the other survivors. I did find it puzzling though that Carol & Tyreese just left the bitten survivor to his fate without at least offering to put him out of his misery.

LandoCalrissian · 18-02-2014 05:26PM

I am a massive fan of the show but just have increasing number of questions after each episode?

How could Glenn overpower that many zombies?
How does Daryll's cross bow still work now that he has smashed countless zombies heads in with it?
Since when does fire distract the zombies away from humans?
Why wouldn't they put the guy bitten beside the train tracks out of his misery?
3 new characters just looked like the walked straight out of the hair and make-up dept.

Grimebox · 18-02-2014 05:40PM

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CaptainNegative wrote: »

You can't compare a 10/10 for The Walking Dead to a 10/10 for The Wire or Breaking Bad. It's like comparing apples to oranges - you rate episodes of the show against it's former episodes, not other TV shows. If you're rating every episode of The Walking Dead against the every episode of The Wire, every episode of The Walking Dead would be less than a 1/10 - the shows are not of the same standard.
But for an episode of The Walking Dead this one was up there for me - I liked the style in which the episode unfolded, I liked that Daryl has essentially given up because it adds to his status as an anti-hero, I liked that of all the groups Carol could have met up with it was Tyrese, I liked the contrast between Lizzie and Mika, I like the desire that Maggie and Glenn have to reunite with one another, I like that Tara gets a shot at redemption, I liked that right at the heart of it this episode was simply about the characters and how they're coping, I liked that Rick and Carl weren't in it because they're pretty much my least favourite characters, and as a fan of the comics I loved the introduction of Abraham, Eugene and Rosita even if it was only 10 seconds.
There wasn't anything I didn't like about the episode, so why wouldn't I give it 10 out of 10. I can accept that many people didn't like the episode and don't go around trying to convince people that their opinion is wrong, so why can't you accept that other people liked the episode which you deemed dull?

We live in a zombie-free world, so live and let live, because who knows when it will all come crashing down.

This is nonsense. Fair enough if you like it, I enjoyed this episode too, but of course you can compare it to other shows.

Paddy Cow · 18-02-2014 06:34PM

LandoCalrissian wrote: »

I am a massive fan of the show but just have increasing number of questions after each episode?

How could Glenn overpower that many zombies?

How does Daryll's cross bow still work now that he has smashed countless zombies heads in with it?

Since when does fire distract the zombies away from humans?

Why wouldn't they put the guy bitten beside the train tracks out of his misery?

3 new characters just looked like the walked straight out of the hair and make-up dept.
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How has he had an unlimited supply of arrows?

A Neurotic · 18-02-2014 06:45PM

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Paddy Cow wrote: »

How has he had an unlimited supply of arrows?

They've gone out of their way to depict him reclaiming arrows after kills in fairness.

SantryRed · 18-02-2014 07:45PM

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Was it actually good other than seeing Judith and the other kids were alive and Carol was back?

I'm really losing patience with the show now.

Paddy Cow · 18-02-2014 08:00PM

A Neurotic wrote: »

They've gone out of their way to depict him reclaiming arrows after kills in fairness.

I know and to be honest, it's not something that bothers me too much but he should have run out of arrows at this stage. The bow thing he has looks like it holds no more than 10 arrows (and that's being generous). In a squirmish with zombies where they kill them all, it's easy for Daryl to reclaim his arrows. However there are a lot of instances where they can't go back, like leaving the prison, or when they do supply runs or any of the numerous times he's shot and ran. Also factor in arrows that have broken or got bent from penetrating a skull. They find guns and ammunition on a fairly regular bases but they don't seem to come across arrows.

It's not going to ruin the show for me but it is like he has a magical supply of arrows

Season 4, Episode 10 - Inmates [AMC] [SPOILERS]

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