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Season 4, Episode 10 - Inmates [AMC] [SPOILERS]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭LOSTfan57


    Will upload here later. New latino trailer confirms
    as expected that Tyreese does have Judith


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


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    Mod Note

    Please Spoiler your posts regarding anything in the trailers/sneak peeks until the episode has aired on AMC (aka. 2am Sunday night/Monday morning)

    Not everyone watches the trailers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭giggii


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    It looks more promising than the previous episode anyway, it seems to be following at least three separate groups, which will hopefully give us a bit more character development, not to mention a little more action! :) Also, Daryl being back in the next episode can only be a good thing :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭LOSTfan57


    Mod Note

    Please Spoiler your posts regarding anything in the trailers/sneak peeks until the episode has aired on AMC (aka. 2am Sunday night/Monday morning)

    Not everyone watches the trailers
    Sorry didnt think trailers counted as spoilers once they were released to the public


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭smcgiff


    MEGA disappointed that I cannot SHARE my views on EP 10. The site I visit has not been updated as yet. :-(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Cork boy 55




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭LOSTfan57


    smcgiff wrote: »
    MEGA disappointed that I cannot SHARE my views on EP 10. The site I visit has not been updated as yet. :-(

    The synopsis is around the web.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭TheGoldenAges


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    Wow that episode had so much to talk about!
    I knew the show wouldn't have the balls to kill off Judith, disappointing but unsurprising really
    Also Carols reappearance and Tyreese not knowing her involvement in the burnings is I'm looking forward to coming to a head

    One thing I'm surprised at is
    how the show made Daryl (The fans favourite character) seem like an ass in how he didn't comfort Beth when she had her little breakdown. It's almost (I could be way off the mark here) like they're trying to make him less heroic/badass so in the future if he was killed off there wouldn't be this big fan outcry. But then again he might just be a tad disconnected because of missing Carol.

    Overall decent episode 7/10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭mrkiscool2


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    I gave the episode an 8.

    Bad points:
    • Judith Still Being Alive-Have some fcuking balls and write her off
    • It being glaringly obvious that Glenn was perfectly fine even before they opened the bus up. Only person that gave a sh1t was the black guy who fancies Sasha. Hate how "acquantincanes" deaths are just shrugged off by the characters. "Oh, not part of the plot like I am? Then I don't give a fcuk"

    Good points
    • Some actual suspense. When Lizzie was suffocating Judith to shut her up, when Mika and Lizzie were faced with the walkers, thinking that it was Mika and Lizzie who had been eaten by the walkers
    • Abraham and the crew, great in the comics and can only be great here.
    • The way the all appear in the same spot(s) eventually
    • Daryl seeming like a dick (as Meryl was) but you can still see the human side to him. Good writing for his character and good acting

    A bit of a filler episode, but interspersed with some good action and focusing on each remaining survivors life after the prison is good. Also, can't wait for the
    Carol, Rick, Tyresse and the fire situation
    to really unfold!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


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    so is Lizzy basically Ben from the comics but they just changed the gender ? and Mika is Billy ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭ron jambo


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    Did Lizzy mutilate the bunnys sitting in the log ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


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    I gave it a three as I thought it was poor and looked to be nothing more than a filler episode. The crew that arrive at the last minute look to be a good addition, the actor who plays the lead guy was brilliant in Southland so that is something to look forward to for next week.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    5
    Gave it a 6, not much improvement over last weeks episode. No real chemistry between Beth and Daryl


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,997 ✭✭✭Grimebox


    5
    Usual mix of the sublime and idiotic, but pretty decent episode overall.

    I quite like the multiple plot lines rather than its usual linearity. The longer it stays like this the better. Focusing purely on Carl in the last episode was a huge mistake. They could have easily intertwined this episode with the last and I would have had better pacing.

    That scene that when Maggie gets on the bus was silly.... why do they specifically shoot it to confuse the audience. They want you to believe it could be Glenn, hiding his face. You are staring at Maggie wondering why she is crying/laughing. Then you see Glenn right after. I really don't understand what they were thinking or what they want the audience to feel. Bizarre.

    Did anyone recognize the people on the bus? I didn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


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    Bunny boiler slicer, that kid has issues!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,145 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    um so those rabbitts were just hanging out and they weren't eating them?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    5
    Tepid enough and fairly disjointed, but that's somewhat understandable given the clear intention was for us to catch up with all the characters who survived. And looks like the last of the Woodbury survivors got bumped off; convenient we never really got to know them and it just hammers home how they were nothing but cannon fodder.

    Looks like there's now a general destination for all these separate stories too, and I'm going to make a wild guess here; whatever
    Terminus is, I suspect it may not be the sanctuary it claims to be. In fact the first thing I thought of was 28 Days Later, and how 'sanctuary' in that case was a bunch of psycho, rapey soldiers.

    I'm actually happy
    Judith survived. It shouldn't be a question of having 'balls', this show is already so relentlessly grim and pessimistic as it is, killing off a baby would have been just too much for me, adding nothing except some cheap shock value. The fact they pushed this idea with Lizzy clearly trying to suffocate the kid was bad enough

    Whatever happens, I hope the rest of the season isn't set in the bloody forest; I'm sick to death with looking at trees all the time, stealth zombies pouncing from the bushes. It's such a dull, dull setting by now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    A decent enough episode in that it teased out what happened to the remaining survivors and their related trials, plus the kid trying to suffocate Judith was quite dark even for this show. What's less entertaining though is the complete absence of tension when Maggie was scouring the bus for Glen, or anytime Beth was attacked by a walker. At this stage its pretty obvious that the core of Rick, Daryl, Glen and Maggie, Tyreese, Sasha, Michonne and Carol will live so any scenes involving them against walkers are just tiresome because you know they arent going to die.

    On that note, how was it that a big tough walker couldnt take down a weakly 12 year old boy (Carl) last week despite going for his shoes on 3 occasions, homing in on him as he exposed his neck and arms and then struggled to chase him out of the room, and yet a normal walker took down a grown man in 2 seconds flat tonight near the train tracks :rolleyes:

    This show needs a shock death before it gets really stale and in danger of just limping along with no definitive ending, just to keep viewers on their toes. I nominate Beth what a pain in the a$$ moaner she is. This new place Terminus could be interesting but I really hope they dont just drag out everyones eventual finding of it between now and the finale plus this new gang to me are just the new Woodbury and co, which just adds to the repetitive element of this series. Cmon people buck up your ideas and either do something original or head towards the ending, its getting a bit limp at this stage...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Cork boy 55


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    Darly
    Beth :)

    Michone
    Rick
    Carl

    Carol
    Tyresse
    Crazy Lizze + sis
    baby

    Japanese guy
    Lebanese yan (forgot name)
    Abraham
    Rosita
    Eugene

    Sasha
    Bob
    Maggie



    18 people left alive out of all the woodbury, prison, Brain Heriot new army and stragglers they have picked up , plus any that went they own way
    that most be least 80-90% of all humans introduced dead.
    shows a slaughter house.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


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    18 people left alive out of all the woodbury, prison, Brain Heriot new army and stragglers they have picked up , plus any that went they own way
    that most be least 80-90% of all humans introduced dead.
    shows a slaughter house.
    And how many of all those killed had names? It's a fair point that there's a core group and beyond maybe 1/2 shock deaths during the season, most are safe. Heck, the way the zombies pause and stall when any of the main cast are in the undead's grasp is hilarious. Yet if it's Mr. AN Other, they can't wait to dig in...

    Sure, there's a long list of nameless extras bumped off, but so what? It's just the 2014 equivalent of the Red Shirt; oh sure, you think you're showing the audience how dangerous this world is with the endless death, but it's a hollow demonstration with almost zero dramatic or emotional payoff.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Cork boy 55


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    The new trio of characters are adapted from the comics


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    cover where they are introduced
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


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    I'm majorly disappointed with the Lizzie & Judith scene. I was delighted to see Judith 'made' it but the suffocating scene went on long enuf to cause brain damage IRL. Never before on tv has anyone shown anything so sinister with a baby as far as I'm aware. Nay impressed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Cork boy 55


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    I'm majorly disappointed with the Lizzie & Judith scene. I was delighted to see Judith 'made' it but the suffocating scene went on long enuf to cause brain damage IRL. Never before on tv has anyone shown anything so sinister with a baby as far as I'm aware. Nay impressed.

    Suffocating a crying baby to avoid enemies has been done a few times in movies don't know about TV, I cannot thing an example off top of my head but its been done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭Celtic Tiger


    Decent episode had a nice pace to it. Glad they are starting the next arc with Terminus, though id say next week we'll be back with Rick and Michonne so wont get to see what it is yet.

    No wonder Beth had 6 lines in season 2 and 3. Not a great actress at all. Great performance from Maggie on the other hand.

    What was Daryl doing lighting fires out in the open at night though, picking up bad habits from the governor :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    8
    Suffocating a crying baby to avoid enemies has been done a few times in movies don't know about TV, I cannot thing an example off top of my head but its been done

    😞 really? That pains me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    6
    Suffocating a crying baby to avoid enemies has been done a few times in movies don't know about TV, I cannot thing an example off top of my head but its been done

    Final episode of MASH.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Dandelion6


    Final episode of MASH.

    Yeah that's exactly what the Lizzie-Judith scene reminded me of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,317 ✭✭✭gavmcg92


    3
    Have to say, I didn't really like this episode. The only thing I got out of this week was that I have little interest in any of the other characters in this show. Found myself checking the time bar as it played through a couple of times. I felt like a lot of the meet ups / tracking finds were far too forced. I guess it's understandable though. I'm sure the writers just wanted to get all of these individual stories rolling so we're not going back to prison over and over again.

    Not too sure about the three new characters either. Far too comical for me... the red neck marine and his gum chewing, hoop earring wearing side kick.

    I guess I'll just have to wait until next week to see where it goes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,566 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Maybe it's just been a while, but has Maggoe's accent always been so strong?

    And yeah, Lizzie is crazy. Thought she was killing the rabbit for dinner but was just because she could.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


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    Unless a thread title specifically mentions the word "Comic" in it, comic related talk and spoilers is poor form guys. Kindly stop posting about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,064 ✭✭✭irishfeen


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    Jaysus i'm not even a father or anything but did anyone else find that that suffocating scene damn hard to watch - I knew it was acting but it would still send shivers down your spine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭willmunny1990


    gavmcg92 wrote: »
    Have to say, I didn't really like this episode. The only thing I got out of this week was that I have little interest in any of the other characters in this show. Found myself checking the time bar as it played through a couple of times. I felt like a lot of the meet ups / tracking finds were far too forced. I guess it's understandable though. I'm sure the writers just wanted to get all of these individual stories rolling so we're not going back to prison over and over again.

    Not too sure about the three new characters either. Far too comical for me... the red neck marine and his gum chewing, hoop earring wearing side kick.

    I guess I'll just have to wait until next week to see where it goes.

    I thought the exact same thing, almost cartoonish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,066 ✭✭✭Washington Irving


    5
    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Maybe it's just been a while, but has Maggoe's accent always been so strong?

    Noticed that too, made me pause for a minute.



    Didn't enjoy it as much as last week's and I can see the two kids and Judith annoying the hell out of me, was almost willing for one of them to get eaten. Will be interesting to see how Carol's return develops if they meet up with Rick, I suspect he'll keep quiet though. Looking forward to ep 11.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Mezcita


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    Who the hell gave this 10 out of 10!?!?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,368 ✭✭✭naughto


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    irishfeen wrote: »
    Jaysus i'm not even a father or anything but did anyone else find that that suffocating scene damn hard to watch - I knew it was acting but it would still send shivers down your spine.
    ya i have a 4 month onld baby boy and it was not nice,but it had to be in it to show how ****1ed up that child is in the head.
    how was she catching all the bunnies?
    you man running off leaving the two girls on there own what was he thinking.
    dident he get bit b 4 the xmass break or was he just hurt?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


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    Mezcita wrote: »
    Who the hell gave this 10 out of 10!?!?!

    People who like to like things and not criticise everything as if it were a leaving cert English exam probably.
    I gave it 10 out of 10, because I'm also allowed to have an opinion that differs to your own.
    We don't all have to hate it just because that's the "popular concensus" - kinda what makes us all individual. The world would be pretty dull if everyone agreed all the time.

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,570 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    6
    Enjoyed this better than last weeks but perhaps only because I hate Carl and Michonne. I agree that Maggies accent was strange like she stepped out of Gone with the Wind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,566 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    People who like to like things and not criticise everything as if it were a leaving cert English exam probably.
    I gave it 10 out of 10, because I'm also allowed to have an opinion that differs to your own.
    We don't all have to hate it just because that's the "popular concensus" - kinda what makes us all individual. The world would be pretty dull if everyone agreed all the time.

    :rolleyes:

    Well you are Captain Negative. Or maybe being negative about an episode that others are being negative about, makes it a double negative, resulting in a positive score.

    Or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Mezcita


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    People who like to like things and not criticise everything as if it were a leaving cert English exam probably.
    I gave it 10 out of 10, because I'm also allowed to have an opinion that differs to your own.
    We don't all have to hate it just because that's the "popular concensus" - kinda what makes us all individual. The world would be pretty dull if everyone agreed all the time.

    :rolleyes:

    Not the rolley eyed smiley. Anything but that. That's just plain low.

    Congrats on liking things but honestly the quality of this show can be so hit and miss. The last two episodes have been (in my opinion as it's all about opinions) just dull. If this is a ten it puts it up there with the best episodes from the likes of The Wire, Breaking Bad, Deadwood etc. Not even in the same league.

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


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    Have to say like pretty much everyone else, that scene with Lizzie and Judith was seriously disturbing, I kept waiting for the camera to go back and for her to be blue or something, and she was mutilating the weirdly still rabbits as well, psychopath in the making.

    Glad to see Carol back, it was certainly a nice surprise, will be interesting to see how it pans out when they eventually meet up with Rick.

    The whole Maggie, Sasha and guy who's name I don't know Thung was fairly boring as was the Darryl/Beth stuff but I guess they kind of had to so that we would know who was alive and stuff.

    Best part of the episode for me was Michael Cudlitz stepping out of that jeep, anyone is familiar with Southland will know why.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,690 ✭✭✭Mokuba


    Yeah the Lizzie storyline will be interesting. Basically confirmed that she was doing all the strange stuff at the prison, and I'll also wager, although I'm sure many others have come to this conclusion, that she burnt the bodies, not Carol - and Carol took the fall for her.

    Need to keep Tara around for a bit, she has potential as a character.

    Liking the change of pace thus far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


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    Mezcita wrote: »
    Not the rolley eyed smiley. Anything but that. That's just plain low.

    Congrats on liking things but honestly the quality of this show can be so hit and miss. The last two episodes have been (in my opinion as it's all about opinions) just dull. If this is a ten it puts it up there with the best episodes from the likes of The Wire, Breaking Bad, Deadwood etc. Not even in the same league.

    :rolleyes:

    You can't compare a 10/10 for The Walking Dead to a 10/10 for The Wire or Breaking Bad. It's like comparing apples to oranges - you rate episodes of the show against it's former episodes, not other TV shows. If you're rating every episode of The Walking Dead against the every episode of The Wire, every episode of The Walking Dead would be less than a 1/10 - the shows are not of the same standard.
    But for an episode of The Walking Dead this one was up there for me - I liked the style in which the episode unfolded, I liked that Daryl has essentially given up because it adds to his status as an anti-hero, I liked that of all the groups Carol could have met up with it was Tyrese, I liked the contrast between Lizzie and Mika, I like the desire that Maggie and Glenn have to reunite with one another, I like that Tara gets a shot at redemption, I liked that right at the heart of it this episode was simply about the characters and how they're coping, I liked that Rick and Carl weren't in it because they're pretty much my least favourite characters, and as a fan of the comics I loved the introduction of Abraham, Eugene and Rosita even if it was only 10 seconds.
    There wasn't anything I didn't like about the episode, so why wouldn't I give it 10 out of 10. I can accept that many people didn't like the episode and don't go around trying to convince people that their opinion is wrong, so why can't you accept that other people liked the episode which you deemed dull?

    We live in a zombie-free world, so live and let live, because who knows when it will all come crashing down. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    1
    After the promise of the midseason finale, the show is going back to the same mindless idiotic things as before. The whole episodes set in forestry are irritating. Stealthy zombies (I mean come on, they make enough noise and the forest isn't really that dense) I know it sounds pernickity but they just change the zombies 'abilities' every episode to suit themselves. Zombies can rip peoples intestines apart and knock down fences in maximum security prisons?

    Zombie also cant overpower a small girl and a swarm can be easily pushed out of the way if you have riot gear on. The Glenn scene itself was fair ridiculous.

    They're doing too much of the "OHHH did we kill off a main character? Find out in the next 20 seconds that we didnt!" as seen with the young girl's shoe and the scene with maggie and non zombie glenn. I mean come now. They even dressed them the same to try manufacture some suspense in the show. All in all, its a long long long long way from Season 1 and 2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭Sideshow Mark


    5
    They kill off "main characters" all the time. At least one per season gets it. I think Rick and Carl are the only two that are actually safe.

    I'm glad they are a long way from Season 2, because all the Hershals Farm episodes were awful. Ricks wife was horribly written, and contradicted herself every episode. Came close to abandoning the show right there.

    This week was a big improvement on last weeks, but the scenes with the bus were ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,317 ✭✭✭gavmcg92


    3
    They kill off "main characters" all the time. At least one per season gets it. I think Rick and Carl are the only two that are actually safe.

    I have to admit, they got me in the first episode. I thought Rick had passed. Mind you, I watched it just after the first episode of house of cards so I was in the mindset that anything could happen! :P

    As for Rick and Carl. I seem to be the only one here who is far more interested in their relationship and story than the other characters in this series. Perhaps I have a slight interest in the Maggie and Glen element to the show but other than that, the other characters just bore me. This is coming from someone who loved each and everyone of the characters in season 1/2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,491 ✭✭✭thebostoncrab


    I really don't get the high level of negativity that follows The Walking Dead almost every week, I swear it comes across as people just watching the show with the idea that they will hate the episode before it even starts. The only time I ever seem to read high praise is when the episodes are all action and someone is killed off, which would be boring to watch every single week.


    I really enjoyed the episode, very curious to see what they do with the two girls and if they take the place of the two boys in the comics. The smothering scene was tense, I can understand why some people were disturbed by it for sure. Delighted that Abraham has been introduced, one of the most interesting characters in the comics and certainly a live wire!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    5
    I really don't get the high level of negativity that follows The Walking Dead almost every week, I swear it comes across as people just watching the show with the idea that they will hate the episode before it even starts. The only time I ever seem to read high praise is when the episodes are all action and someone is killed off, which would be boring to watch every single week.

    So if it's not high praise it's bitter negativity? I gotta say, in all the time I've watched TV, or spoken with people who enjoy a good TV drama, I've not known anyone to watch a show just to hate on it, or do it myself.

    Walking Dead is a good show when it wants to be - I wouldn't keep watching myself otherwise - but it frequently frustrates in that it compliments some great scripting with some truly hamfisted examples; no better example of this than the entirety of season 2. It's annoying because the show could be easily spoken in the same breath as the likes of Breaking Bad, True Detectives and all the other 'must watch' TV, yet it never quite gets there.

    If you enjoyed the episode without reservation that's great, good to hear you're enjoying it :) but don't dump on others because there's a desire to debate and discuss the show for all its strengths and failings. The show has its faults, and calling it out on them is just part of TV discussion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,971 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    6
    I thought it was really good anyway, the show continues to display the despair from the comics and I've noticed a huge difference in Season 4 compared to the rest, has to do with the new showrunner imo.

    Best part was seeing Cudlitz as Abraham. I miss SouthLAnd :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭Sideshow Mark


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    pixelburp wrote: »
    So if it's not high praise it's bitter negativity? I gotta say, in all the time I've watched TV, or spoken with people who enjoy a good TV drama, I've not known anyone to watch a show just to hate on it
    You should try some of the Doctor Who forums right after a new episode airs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    7
    i've quite enjoyed the first two of the second half of the season.

    back to basics, intense zombie fare. you can't make 4 seasons of just that but i enjoyed them.

    last nights was quite tense imo. the older of the two sisters is up to no good.

    the show is always going to be ridiculous, implausible and predictable, but I still enjoy it.

    I went back and watched some of season 2 recently. I don't know how closely it's following the comics but basically
    less women = less soap opera = better show


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