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2014 Champion Hurdle

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  • #362
    Itziger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭Itziger


    ft9 wrote: »
    We'll see

    True, but then the last 15 pages of brilliant insight and knowledge (also known as random guessing) wouldn't have taken place.


  • #363
    mr.jingle
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    mulbot wrote: »
    more like they knew she more than likely wud've been beaten by big bucks,had a harder race and anyway more than likely ruby had a say in this too

    There was no Big Bucks to worry about last year and they still went for sentiment and history than a proper title


  • #364
    mr.jingle
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    mulbot wrote: »
    more like they knew she more than likely wud've been beaten by big bucks,had a harder race and anyway more than likely ruby had a say in this too

    There was no Big Bucks to worry about last year and they still went for sentiment and history than a proper title


  • #365
    pugw
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    Lads roughly what would a hurricane fly out Connor forecast pay?? Thanks


  • #366
    kiers47
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    It's very hard to say given it is a pool payout. I would guess somewhere in the region of €10. Give or take


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  • #367
    mr.jingle
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    pugw wrote: »
    Lads roughly what would a hurricane fly out Connor forecast pay?? Thanks

    Around 17/1 i'd imagine and probably around 20 if the result was reversed

    A few points out, going by the year he won at 11/4 with Peddlars 2nd at 9/2 the prices wont be far off paid just over 13/1


  • #368
    faoile@n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭faoile@n


    Johnny Ward ‏@Ui_Maine 16m
    WPM talking to hacks after Daneking... more or less implying considerable doubts about Un De Sceaux running at Cheltenham.
    Hmmm...


  • #369
    klairondavis
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    That won't come as a surprise to anyone.


  • #370
    kiers47
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    Seems to have drifted a bit on betfair to and the pink side virtually blank.


  • #371
    UrbanSea
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    I was waiting for this


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  • #372
    mr.jingle
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    This what Mullins is quoted as saying: "I just wonder if he needs that at this time in his career, taking on those fantastic horses.Obviously he is hugely talented for the future, we were happy to keep him under the radar and that's where I'd like to keep him."


  • #373
    prettyboy81
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    Willie the boll%x!


  • #374
    RichieLawlor
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    Lol, was never running


  • #375
    ft9
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    ft9 wrote: »
    He won't even run in the CH, let alone win it.
    jimjamcos wrote: »
    Another guess.
    ft9 wrote: »
    We'll see
    mr.jingle wrote: »
    This what Mullins is quoted as saying: "I just wonder if he needs that at this time in his career, taking on those fantastic horses.Obviously he is hugely talented for the future, we were happy to keep him under the radar and that's where I'd like to keep him."

    Wasn't much of a wait after all.


  • #376
    rossom
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    Fairly sure most people saw this coming. Willie will want HF to win a 3rd CH more than anything and won't give him an unnecessary obstacle. Even if UDS wasn't good enough, him blasting off from the front wouldn't have helped HF's chances at all.


  • #377
    Colonel Sanders
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    Definitely looks a non runner based on Betfair market. In fact the Champion Hurdle may easily end up a very small field


  • #378
    Itziger
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    Colonel Sanders wrote: »
    Definitely looks a non runner based on Betfair market. In fact the Champion Hurdle may easily end up a very small field

    Was thinking that too. 6 or 7 horses on the day? All fancied, that'd be weird.


  • #379
    Motivator
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    RichieLawlor wrote: »
    Make no mistake, Mullins, and Ruby for that matter doesn't care about sentiment, if he knew that UDS was better than Hurricane Fly then do you think he would take a chance on a 10 years old who isn't as good as one in his yard.

    Don't be so ridiculous

    Rubbish, ruby said on numerous occasions that he would never ride another horse if kauto star was running. He said sentiment played a huge part in his relationship with the horse.


  • #380
    RichieLawlor
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    Motivator wrote: »
    Rubbish, ruby said on numerous occasions that he would never ride another horse if kauto star was running. He said sentiment played a huge part in his relationship with the horse.

    Lol. Ruby said. Suppose that's it then.


  • #381
    ft9
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    Considering Ruby is the jockey, yes.


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  • #382
    mdwexford
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    Looks like UDS won't run, pity as if he was 10s on the day I would have place layed him for sure. Pity for anyone who backed ante post though.

    My Tent Or Yours bumper win hopefully will have put him spot on now.


  • #383
    jimjamcos
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    No shock at all given he would have cut HF's throat but a seriously questionable decision by Mullins IMO. Fair enough he wants HF to win more than anything (perfectly understandable) but no way is HF in a strong enough position to think that he alone will guarantee another CH success. IMO he's extremely vulnerable to the younger brigade, regardless of whether UDS turned up or not. Like Nicholls when he was mob-handed, Willie will have to learn to grab opportunity while he can. There's no guarantee that UDS will be the same horse next year, just hope connections don't live to regret it.


  • #384
    jimjamcos
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    mdwexford wrote: »
    Looks like UDS won't run, pity as if he was 10s on the day I would have place layed him for sure. Pity for anyone who backed ante post though.

    My Tent Or Yours bumper win hopefully will have put him spot on now.

    NRFB, little harm done.


  • #385
    RichieLawlor
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    ft9 wrote: »
    Considering Ruby is the jockey, yes.

    And 100% punter friendly nice guy. Take a day off will ya


  • #386
    ft9
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    RichieLawlor wrote: »
    Ruby for that matter doesn't care about sentiment

    You were wrong, accept it and move on.


  • #387
    yaboya1
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    jimjamcos wrote: »
    No shock at all given he would have cut HF's throat but a seriously questionable decision by Mullins IMO. Fair enough he wants HF to win more than anything (perfectly understandable) but no way is HF in a strong enough position to think that he alone will guarantee another CH success. IMO he's extremely vulnerable to the younger brigade, regardless of whether UDS turned up or not. Like Nicholls when he was mob-handed, Willie will have to learn to grab opportunity while he can. There's no guarantee that UDS will be the same horse next year, just hope connections don't live to regret it.

    If he's not running him because they don't believe he can win the race, fair enough. But if they're not running him because they're afraid of beating Hurricane Fly, whether they think he's his only/biggest danger or not it's bad form. It would be different if the two horses were in the same ownership, but they're not.


  • #388
    RichieLawlor
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    ft9 wrote: »
    You were wrong, accept it and move on.

    Lol. Ruby Walsh would sell out his wife for a champion hurdle winner, he wouldn't lose a wink of sleep over a horse


  • #389
    ft9
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    RichieLawlor wrote: »
    Lol. Ruby Walsh would sell out his wife for a champion hurdle winner, he wouldn't lose a wink of sleep over a horse

    See post #386 'LOL'


  • #390
    jimjamcos
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    RichieLawlor wrote: »
    Lol. Ruby Walsh would sell out his wife for a champion hurdle winner, he wouldn't lose a wink of sleep over a horse

    You do remember Kauto and Denman, right?


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  • #391
    yaboya1
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    jimjamcos wrote: »
    You do remember Kauto and Denman, right?

    If you read his book he says he underestimated Denman. Kauto was always the shorter price of the two when they faced each other so it was hardly a case of his heart ruling his head. I think the only sentiment he has is towards money/winners.


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