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So I'm clamped.

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  • #32
    Stavros Murphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    Banjo String wrote: »
    Balls, I shouldve Rang you lol!!!

    Ah look, the eldest was getting upset in the car. As I said, Riles me to pay that shower, but rest assured if I was kids free today, that clamp was headed home with me and no mistake.

    I was out cutting stuff anyway - gas torch in the van ffs. And sure I love shyte like that. :D

    All seriousness tho, forget the fcukers, not worth getting het up about. Smile, Pay and give the inner two fingers. Not worth even remembering. Pond-scum need to go on ignore. I'd have cut it tho.. :D


  • #33
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    anncoates wrote: »
    Ireland: where personal responsibility is something we only demand from others.

    I didn't take personal responsibility :confused:

    Where?


  • #34
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    BNMC wrote: »
    What you on about? What gives these wanker clampers the right to interfere with an other person's property.
    .

    What gives people the right to use someone elses property without paying for what they use?

    Is it ok to go to a shop and pay for a normal size mars bar and take a king size one?


  • #35
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    This thread could have been epic.

    Oh well. :(


  • #36
    Red Pepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    humbert wrote: »
    Bugs the **** out of me the way some people think having kids means the rules shouldn't really apply to them.

    I read that as a story of some who made a balls of driving and made a balls of parenting.

    Wow that's a high horse, care u don't fall off...


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  • #37
    Angry_Mammarys
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭Angry_Mammarys


    Meh get an angle grinder


  • #38
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Zachary Easy Lodger wrote: »
    The system didn't beat you.

    No the system beat me.

    As previously discussed, I had two small children with me today, which was extremely lucky for the clamping company. Had they not have been with me, I would have gotten that clamp off. The trade I'm in, I'd have had no bother acquiring the tools needed to get it off that's for sure.
    Zachary Easy Lodger wrote: »
    The system caught you as it is supposed to do.

    NCPS system is an ass. It's legalised theft. In saying that, I played by their rules by paying to park in the first place. I was back late. I've no excuse for that, nor am I trying to excuse it.
    Zachary Easy Lodger wrote: »
    You were illegally parked. Kids are no excuse. You were late back and old enough now to know the rules and the repercussions of breaking them.

    Illegally parked me hole.

    I put it to you that NCPS were the ones acting illegally today by placing equipment on my privately owned vehicle.


  • #39
    RobbingBandit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Would have did a Homer J Simpson myself, jackhammer ftw.


  • #40
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Banjo String wrote: »
    No the system beat me.

    As previously discussed, I had two small children with me today, which was extremely lucky for the clamping company. Had they not have been with me, I would have gotten that clamp off. The trade I'm in, I'd have had no bother acquiring the tools needed to get it off that's for sure.



    NCPS system is an ass. It's legalised theft. In saying that, I played by their rules by paying to park in the first place. I was back late. I've no excuse for that, nor am I trying to excuse it.



    Illegally parked me hole.

    I put it to you that NCPS were the ones acting illegally today by placing equipment on my privately owned vehicle.

    Oh for pity's sake!
    First you advocate illegal action but talking about removing the clamp. Then you think parking without sufficient fee paid is not illegal parking? The clampers are acting within the law and on behalf of the law in clamping vehicles parked, like you, illegally.

    You need a large dose of reality.


  • #41
    jackofalltrades
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,304 ✭✭✭jackofalltrades


    Posted the below in the motoring forum before.

    OP - It would be well worth your while reading this.

    http://www.lawsociety.ie/Documents/G.../March2011.pdf
    Consumer contract
    A further problem for private car parks is the operation of consumer contract law when a motorist enters a car park as a consumer to purchase parking. The motorist reads the signage stating that clamping is in force for vehicles without tickets,purchases a ticket and parks – but returns after the time indicated on the ticket has expired. In such a situation, the motorist is not a trespasser and has not consented to his vehicle being clamped, but rather
    has entered into a consumer contract to park, which has expired. The car park in such a scenario is entitled to a quantum meruit claim for the additional cost of parking rather than the deterrent type fees normally charged to de-clamp.
    A large deterrent fee – even if agreed to by the consumer through reading
    the signage – is a penalty fee and unenforceable, unless some relationship can be shown with the damages suffered by the car park through the overstaying motorist. A penalty fee rather than liquidated damages is void under the common law and is regarded as an unfair term and, therefore, unenforceable under the European Communities (Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts) Regulations 1995 (SI 27 of 1995, schedule 3, article 1(e): “requiring any consumer who fails to fulfil his obligation to pay a disproportionately high sum in compensation”.

    I'd look into taking them to the small claims court.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a solicitor and the above is just my understanding of consumer law.


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  • #42
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Zachary Easy Lodger wrote: »
    Oh for pity's sake!
    First you advocate illegal action but talking about removing the clamp. Then you think parking without sufficient fee paid is not illegal parking? The clampers are acting within the law and on behalf of the law in clamping vehicles parked, like you, illegally.

    Read this.
    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1961/en/act/pub/0024/print.html#sec113
    113.—(1) A person shall not, without lawful authority or reasonable cause, interfere or attempt to interfere with the mechanism of a mechanically propelled vehicle while it is stationary in a public place, or get on or into or attempt to get on or into the vehicle while it is so stationary.

    I'm not so sure NCPS have the lawful authority to clamp a vehicle, I am open to correction on this, but they seem reluctant to take anyone to court who has forcibly removed clamps.
    Zachary Easy Lodger wrote: »
    You need a large dose of reality.

    Indeed.


  • #43
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    If the clamping crowd have acted illegally, call the guards/a solicitor. But I'm thinking they've already consulted with their solicitors too, and it's not illegal.


  • #44
    anncoates
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Banjo String wrote: »
    I didn't take personal responsibility :confused:

    Where?

    For getting back to the car in time. Fair enough it can happen to us all but suck it up.


  • #45
    wendell borton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    KTRIC wrote: »
    Were you just popping into the shop for a minute ?

    Coitus interuptus offers no protection from the clamp.


  • #46
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    They certainly have lawful authority or reasonable cause,. Unless you'd like to take them to court and challenge it. Let us know how you get on!

    I'm done as you seem set to try to take the high moral ground regardless of the facts.
    Cheers!


  • #47
    Stavros Murphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    Zachary Easy Lodger wrote: »
    They certainly have lawful authority or reasonable cause,. Unless you'd like to take them to court and challenge it. Let us know how you get on!

    I'm done as you seem set to try to take the high moral ground regardless of the facts.
    Cheers!

    Oh, the ironing.


  • #48
    Arthur Beesley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    My arse cheeks are clamped together. Does that count?


  • #49
    maguic24
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭maguic24


    Get a horse so it won't happen again.


  • #50
    Peregrine
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,424 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    BNMC wrote: »
    What gives these wanker clampers the right to interfere with an other person's property.

    The business or council whose property which he parked on.


  • #51
    Gummy Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Stinger!


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  • #52
    Stavros Murphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    maguic24 wrote: »
    Get a horse so it won't happen again.

    There's a fair few stray high ones knocking about anyway. Should be easy to mount one.


  • #53
    Some12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭Some12


    Cut the clamp lock off an place the clamp in your boot and drive away. Buy a new ultra strong bolt cutter resistant lock.

    Park in the same spot later on without a ticket. After you're clamped, hide the other clamp device in the parking lot and call for the unclamp. Tangle wires in the clamp or put dirt in the lock on your car to cause them more time to unclamp you.

    After they arrive to unclamp you, run out and put the other clamp on their car with your new strong lock.

    When they protest, tell them they didn't display a proper and valid parking ticket while they were unclamping you.

    Tell them their unclamping fee is 200 Euro.

    Drive off...


  • #54
    WilyCoyote
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    Banjo String wrote: »
    Paid the parking meter, it was covered up until 1631

    I'm not making excuses, I was late back to my car, had the two kids with me (both under 3)and through one thing an another was late back, plain and simple.

    NCPS must make a fortune at this lark. €90 release fee, plus another if paying by card.


    I'm sorely sorely tempted to get out my bolt cutters tbh.

    Cut or pay AH?

    I thought they were a 20th century invention!


  • #55
    wil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭wil


    Zachary Easy Lodger wrote: »
    The system didn't beat you. The system caught you as it is supposed to do. You were illegally parked. Kids are no excuse. You were late back and old enough now to know the rules and the repercussions of breaking them.
    spoken only as someone unaffected by the draconian parking measures imposed on Dublin (predominantly) motorists.

    Clamping is these days pretty much a tax (out of the mouth of a clamper) as they don't necessarily address obvious and often very serious parking issues.
    Cars are regularly parked across pedestrian crossings, (daily photos on request if you don't believe), on 24hour cycle lanes, blocking commercial accesses etc with relative impunity, even disabled parking spaces, but god forbid you park 10 minutes over time in an otherwise deserted side street, or a few seconds in a loading bay. It is a rip off tax, that doesn't serve many people well.

    I'm not saying it couldn't serve a purpose but although it is not as stupid as used to be by the crowd that were dumped out, but it needs to have sense behind it

    If a parked car is causing a problem, tow it away and clamp it on a side street like they do in other countries. What is the madness of clamping a car a buslane etc?.. to make sure it is blocking it for at least another hour???
    If over time, put a ticket on it.
    Clamping is a very big hammer for every size of transgression and that makes for bad law.


  • #56
    thebaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,227 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    Zachary Easy Lodger wrote: »
    Oh for pity's sake!
    First you advocate illegal action but talking about removing the clamp. Then you think parking without sufficient fee paid is not illegal parking? The clampers are acting within the law and on behalf of the law in clamping vehicles parked, like you, illegally.

    You need a large dose of reality.

    yes , they are acting within the law , but its a pity other laws are not enforced with such ruthlessness , particularly for more severe crimes (robbery , violence etc etc ) - We're ruthlessly vigilant for the horrible violent crime of not topping up parking meters , but if your property or car gets broken into or you are violently assaulted , do not expect such wonderful policing and enforcement


  • #57
    TheBrinch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭TheBrinch


    Some12 wrote: »
    Cut the clamp lock off an place the clamp in your boot and drive away. Buy a new ultra strong bolt cutter resistant lock.

    Park in the same spot later on without a ticket. After you're clamped, hide the other clamp device in the parking lot and call for the unclamp. Tangle wires in the clamp or put dirt in the lock on your car to cause them more time to unclamp you.

    After they arrive to unclamp you, run out and put the other clamp on their car with your new strong lock.

    When they protest, tell them they didn't display a proper and valid parking ticket while they were unclamping you.

    Tell them their unclamping fee is 200 Euro.

    Drive off...


    How can you drive off if your car still has the other clamp on it?! :rolleyes:


  • #58
    Artful_Badger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    They should come up with a new system where your car is locked into a space somehow and you have to pay to get it out. That way you'll never owe any more than you actually used and you'll never get away with using more than you paid for.


  • #59
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Artful_Badger wrote: »
    They should come up with a new system where your car is locked into a space somehow and you have to pay to get it out. That way you'll never owe any more than you actually used and you'll never get away with using more than you paid for.

    Like a library for cars...


  • #60
    Stavros Murphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    Artful_Badger wrote: »
    They should come up with a new system where your car is locked into a space somehow and you have to pay to get it out. That way you'll never owe any more than you actually used and you'll never get away with using more than you paid for.

    Kinda like a fancy clamp?


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  • #61
    Artful_Badger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Like a library for cars...
    Stavros Murphy wrote: »
    Kinda like a fancy clamp?

    I'm talking state of the art clamping technology here that may or may not already be used in libraries. You drive in, you're "docked" and after a couple minutes grace the timer starts. You go about your business and whenever you get back you pay what ya owe and leave.

    No more tickets, no more clamps, no more abuse, no more extortion.


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