Examples of bullsh!ttery/gobsh!ttery in Irish life and culture

hjkl · 15-02-2014 10:45AM

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

I object to uniforms because they are stupid, expensive, draconian and they impinge on the freedoms of children and families.

You, my friend, are an absolute drama queen.

MRnotlob606 · 15-02-2014 10:52AM

scumbag riff raffs slags with loopy earings

Alias G · 15-02-2014 10:52AM

zetalambda wrote: »

That Smithfield square is the largest open air plaza in Europe. I'm calling BS on this one. Certainly doesn't make it into this list: :pac:

http://www.europeish.com/25-amazingly-stunning-european-squares/

Nobody says that about Smithfield square. I've never heard that in my life. You either made it up or heard it from a very unreliable source.

Yay, another Irish begrudgery thread. Lets all self loath together.

mrsdewinter · 15-02-2014 10:56AM

CrabRevolution wrote: »

I think I read somewhere (possibly wikipedia) that Griffith Avenue in Glasnevin is the longest tree lined avenue in the Northern Hemisphere with no shops on it or something.

It's so incredibly unnoteworthy, and how did whoever typed that not realise the ridiculousness of what they were saying? If I attached that many random conditions to something, I could have about 100 things in my house alone that are unique or record breaking in the some sense.

That said, none of these things are particularly Irish aside from their location, ridiculous and bull****ty alright, but you'll have that everywhere.

I wish I could thank this more than once. It sums up so much of the provincialism that plagues us. 'Nah, we don't have a metro to the airport - but look, we've got the longest, tree-lined...'
Spot-on post.

Molester Stallone · 15-02-2014 11:01AM

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

I don't object to them because they were introduced by the Brits. I'm explaining the historical reasons why we have them. We did not introduce them for any practical reasons. We kept them out of habit.
I object to uniforms because they are stupid, expensive, draconian and they impinge on the freedoms of children and families.

Funnily enough, most schools in rural areas have only introduced uniforms in the last 35 years, nothing historical or draconian about it at all.

eviltwin · 15-02-2014 11:04AM

Fat people in tracksuits

jjpep · 15-02-2014 11:06AM

Iona institute and their cheerleaders in th media. Using made up fairy stories to be ****ty about people and being given the time of day to day so.

Ghost Buster · 15-02-2014 11:14AM

delw wrote: »

But expected to pay alot of money to a shop who have the monopoly on said school uniforms

Many schools have a generic uncrested uniform which will often be stocked in Dunnes and Tesco. Depends on how much the school fancies itself!
My school simply uses dark navy slacks/skirt and v neck jumper and dark navy track suits for PE day. Not expensive at all.

languagenerd · 15-02-2014 11:16AM

The ads for Stephen's Green Shopping Centre. "Think the Champs-Elysees, but with a sunroof". No. Just no.

Pro Hoc Vice · 15-02-2014 11:27AM

Alias G wrote: »

Nobody says that about Smithfield square. I've never heard that in my life. You either made it up or heard it from a very unreliable source.

Yay, another Irish begrudgery thread. Lets all self loath together.

http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/europe/republic-of-ireland/dublin/smithfield-square-thingstodo-detail-101185/

"Smithfield is the largest purpose-built open civic space in Europe."

http://www.cbre.ie/portal/pls/portal/cbweb.property_frontend.show_property_brochure?id=21852

"IT’S A SHORT STROLL FROM SMITHFIELD SQUARE WHICH IS THE LARGEST PURPOSE-BUILT OPEN CIVIC SPACE IN EUROPE."

http://www.let.ie/commercial-property/72---76-North-King-Street-Smithfield-Dublin-7-Smithfield-Co-Dublin/62910

"The property is located at the junction of Red Cow Lane and North King Street,
overlooking Smithfield Square, which is the largest purpose-built open civic space in Europe. It was designed to give the area a new lease of life by bringing people back "

Alias G · 15-02-2014 11:44AM

infosys wrote: »

http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/europe/republic-of-ireland/dublin/smithfield-square-thingstodo-detail-101185/

"Smithfield is the largest purpose-built open civic space in Europe."

http://www.cbre.ie/portal/pls/portal/cbweb.property_frontend.show_property_brochure?id=21852

"IT’S A SHORT STROLL FROM SMITHFIELD SQUARE WHICH IS THE LARGEST PURPOSE-BUILT OPEN CIVIC SPACE IN EUROPE."

http://www.let.ie/commercial-property/72---76-North-King-Street-Smithfield-Dublin-7-Smithfield-Co-Dublin/62910

"The property is located at the junction of Red Cow Lane and North King Street,
overlooking Smithfield Square, which is the largest purpose-built open civic space in Europe. It was designed to give the area a new lease of life by bringing people back "

Saying it is largest purpose built open air civic space is very different from saying that is is the largest open air plaza in Europe and then comparing it to the likes of Red Square FFS. While one might question the contention that it was built purposely as a civic space since it was originally a market, the OP is merely resorting to typical self loathing as an Irishman and good luck to him in that endeavour. Some people are simply more satisfied when they are knocking things rather than engaging in something more constructive.

EyeSight · 15-02-2014 12:16PM

Alias G wrote: »

Saying it is largest purpose built open air civic space is very different from saying that is is the largest open air plaza in Europe and then comparing it to the likes of Red Square FFS. While one might question the contention that it was built purposely as a civic space since it was originally a market, the OP is merely resorting to typical self loathing as an Irishman and good luck to him in that endeavour. Some people are simply more satisfied when they are knocking things rather than engaging in something more constructive.

in fairness it is misleading to add in "purpose built"

Alias G · 15-02-2014 12:22PM

EyeSight wrote: »

in fairness it is misleading to add in "purpose built"

I guess it would be a matter of argument and a consideration of what works went into the redevelopment of the square and whether that constituted it being "purpose built". I agree that it is perhaps a bit dubious on the face of it all right. However, trying to knock it on the basis of comparing it to the likes of Red Square or Place de la Concorde is just plain daft.

Míshásta · 15-02-2014 12:23PM

sabat wrote: »

That there's a great (probably the greatest in the world) body of literature in the Irish language. If someone could show me a single work that would rank in the top 20,000 I'll withdraw this.

I've been around for a fair number of decades and have never heard anyone proclaim that the greatest body of literature in the world was in the Irish language.

There's certainly a great body of poetry in the Irish language going back over a thousand years. Even in translation it's been appreciated worldwide.

Gavin. · 15-02-2014 12:24PM

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

De Dubz bud .. de Dubz speakz de ... Jacinta ... Jacinta .. He'your JACINTA ... de Dubz speakz de bestest Eng ... JACINTA YA CU*T ..... de bestest English bud! Any spayer change pal?

The Dubs speak better English than the turnip headed folk infesting the wastelands.

Cienciano · 15-02-2014 12:24PM

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

The begrudgery of the Irish is a myth perpetuated by rich arseholes who prefer to delude themselves into thinking that other Irish people dislike them because of their success rather than admit that they are disliked because they are arseholes. Bono and Bill Cullen, I'm looking at you. Bill has been rather quiet on the subject lately, hasn't he?:D

It's a also often used to defend mediocrity. Last Autumn Matt Cooper on The Last Word was doing an item on the finale of season 4 of Love/Hate. He dismissed many critical texts to the show as begrudgery. Season 4 of Love/Hate was truly awful, especially the final episode. Matt Cooper and Stuart Carolyn would know each other quite well.

Spot on. Bill Cullen is a prime example. Universally hated, or "begrugery" as he would say because hes rich. Why do people like JP McManus? Because he's not an arsehole, thats why. Gerry Ryan used to go on about it to, trying to justify why people didn't like him was begrudgery. The irony is that if you actually are vain enough to think thats the reason, you really are an arsehole.

languagenerd wrote: »

The ads for Stephen's Green Shopping Centre. "Think the Champs-Elysees, but with a sunroof". No. Just no.

I was in Stephens green centre a while back and was thinking its probably the shîttest shopping centre in Dublin. Just behind Crumlin

Cienciano · 15-02-2014 12:29PM

Alias G wrote: »

Nobody says that about Smithfield square. I've never heard that in my life. You either made it up or heard it from a very unreliable source.

Yay, another Irish begrudgery thread. Lets all self loath together.

This is another thing that annoys me. Any criticism of anything Irish is "self loathing". Get a grip!
This phrase and its use in this context is pretty much exclusive to Boards.ie, you'll never hear it in general conversation.

Alias G · 15-02-2014 12:37PM

Cienciano wrote: »

This is another thing that annoys me. Any criticism of anything Irish is "self loathing". Get a grip!
This phrase and its use in this context is pretty much exclusive to Boards.ie, you'll never hear it in general conversation.

Of course people are free to be critical. But have you actually read some of the crap people are complaining about on this thread. Certain people get more satisfaction from whinging and whining than from contributing something constructive. They are self-loathing types and I don't require a "grip" of anything thanks.

Míshásta · 15-02-2014 12:40PM

donegal__road wrote: »

the 'fighting Irish'

Not complete bull****.

This title was not bestowed on us because of drunken brawling but because of our reputed military prowess. It may originate in the American Civil War because of the gallant way the Irish volunteers acquitted themselves in many battles.

In the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries huge numbers of young Irish men went to the Continent to join the armies there. A number of European powers had Irish Brigades.

I don't have any statistics to hand but I believe that the numbers of Irish soldiers in the British army was at one time very significant and they established a reputation for valour and daring.

Wellington and Kitchener were also Irish even if we've disowned them because they don't fit into the nationalist ideology.

Realt Dearg Sec · 15-02-2014 01:12PM

Míshásta wrote: »

Not complete bull****.

This title was not bestowed on us because of drunken brawling but because of our reputed military prowess. It may originate in the American Civil War because of the gallant way the Irish volunteers acquitted themselves in many battles.

In the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries huge numbers of young Irish men went to the Continent to join the armies there. A number of European powers had Irish Brigades.

I don't have any statistics to hand but I believe that the numbers of Irish soldiers in the British army was at one time very significant and they established a reputation for valour and daring.

Wellington and Kissinger were also Irish even if we've disowned them because they don't fit into the nationalist ideology.

Wellington disowned Ireland, not the other way round. He coined the phrase "bring born in a stable does not make one a horse" to do so.

Santa Cruz · 15-02-2014 01:27PM

Gavin. wrote: »

The Dubs speak better English than the turnip headed folk infesting the wastelands.

Gor ih in one dere bud. Are ya watchin Unira tonoite

Alias G · 15-02-2014 01:31PM

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Wellington disowned Ireland, not the other way round. He coined the phrase "bring born in a stable does not make one a horse" to do so.

There is considerable doubt as to whether or not this quote can be attributed to Wellington. He did in fairness champion Catholic Emancipation at a time when it would not have been popular amongst his peers.

Greenmachine · 15-02-2014 01:34PM

Míshásta wrote: »

I've been around for a fair number of decades and have never heard anyone proclaim that the greatest body of literature in the world was in the Irish language.

There's certainly a great body of poetry in the Irish language going back over a thousand years. Even in translation it's been appreciated worldwide.

Something to this effect was drummed into us in school many moon ago. So much so that I have told foreign friends this with nothing to back it up.

Pumpkinseeds · 15-02-2014 01:39PM

Michael D Higgins wife visiting a war protestor stupid woman in prison, which would obviously be picked up on by the media and highlight her case and then Michalel D issuing a statement that it was just because she was an old friend. Utter Bol*ox. Since we're talking Gobs*ite, I'll nominate Michael D, an utter embarrassment. What a joke, our president looks like a little leprechaun and reciting bad poetry just makes it worse.

Gavin. · 15-02-2014 01:45PM

Santa Cruz wrote: »

Gor ih in one dere bud. Are ya watchin Unira tonoite

It's amazing to watch a culchie attempt to use a keyboard. Fascinating.

Such glorious gibberish.

biko · 15-02-2014 01:49PM

Culchies have problems with British keyboards.
This is not a problem in Dublin...

conorhal · 15-02-2014 01:54PM

'The best little country in the world to do business in.'

Perhaps if you're a multinational looking to avoid paying any tax, but not of you're a small to medium indigenous business it's not, in fact this government seems to be actively trying to put you out of business.

dxhound2005 · 15-02-2014 02:01PM

conorhal wrote: »

'The best little country in the world to do business in.'

Perhaps if you're a multinational looking to avoid paying any tax, but not of you're a small to medium indigenous business it's not, in fact this government seems to be actively trying to put you out of business.

That doesn't seem to have deterred this lot.

http://www.vision-net.ie/barometerNewByWeek.jsp?t=1

conorhal · 15-02-2014 02:11PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

That doesn't seem to have deterred this lot.

http://www.vision-net.ie/barometerNewByWeek.jsp?t=1

I'd call that a triumph in spite of, as opposed to thanks to, our government.
No scrapping of upward only rent reviews.
Failure to tackle the PRSI inequity for the self employed.
Spiralling rates while reducing services.
Refusal to sort out bank lending for small businesses
etc. etc.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 15-02-2014 02:41PM

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Wellington disowned Ireland, not the other way round. He coined the phrase "bring born in a stable does not make one a horse" to do so.

A popular myth, Daniel O'Connell made the comment as a jibe to the Duke on the 1st of October 1843 whilst giving a dinner speech at Mullaghmast.

The quote in full is, "The poor old Duke! What shall I say of him? To be sure he was born in Ireland, but being born in a stable does not make a man a horse"

Examples of bullsh!ttery/gobsh!ttery in Irish life and culture

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