Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

RiverOfLove · 15-02-2014 02:20AM

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RiverOfLove · 15-02-2014 03:56AM

Pwindedd wrote: »

I think maybe the residents motives are being misrepresented here. The main concern is surely to prevent escalation for future years, if this one slides then next year it's 12 concerts and 18 the next. I really don't think compo is the aim, just nipping in the bud before it gets out of hand. 5 consecutive nights is a bit much. I'm sure when the houses were built in such close proximity to Croker, no one estimated the eventual outcome many decades later. Balance needs to be struck.

As if back to back concerts happen regularly.

This is a wiki page on Croke Park:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croke_Park

There is a section on concerts and gives a list of concerts going back to 1996.

2013
No concerts.

2012
- Red hot chilli peppers, June 26
- Westlife, June 22 - 23

2011
- Take That, June 18, 19

2010
- westlife, June 5th

2009
- U2, July 24,25,27
- Take That, June 13

2008
- Celine Dion, May 30
- westlife, June 1
- Neil Diamond, June 14

2007
No concerts

2006
- Robbie Williams, June 9
- Bon Jovi, May 20

2005
- u2, June 24, 25, 27

1998
- Elton John and Billy Joel
May 29 - 30

1997
- Garth Brooks, May 29, 30

1996
- Tina Turner, June 28

Smidge · 15-02-2014 04:04AM

RiverOfLove wrote: »

As if back to back concerts happen regularly.

This is a wiki page on Croke Park:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croke_Park

There is a section on concerts and gives a list of concerts going back to 1996.

2013
No concerts.

2012
- Red hot chilli peppers, June 26
- Westlife, June 22 - 23

2011
- Take That, June 18, 19

2010
- westlife, June 5th

2009
- U2, July 24,25,27
- Take That, June 13

2008
- Celine Dion, May 30
- westlife, June 1
- Neil Diamond, June 14

2007
No concerts

2006
- Robbie Williams, June 9
- Bon Jovi, May 20

2005
- u2, June 24, 25, 27

1998
- Elton John and Billy Joel
May 29 - 30

1997
- Garth Brooks, May 29, 30

1996
- Tina Turner, June 28

Take note ROL of the part in bold, this is when the residents raised issues with the agreement. FOUR CONCERTS NOT THREE.

Look at all of the other years.

THREE or less

You have the just made the residents argument for them right there.

John_Rambo · 15-02-2014 09:04AM

RiverOfLove wrote: »

As if back to back concerts happen regularly.

This is a wiki page on Croke Park:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croke_Park

There is a section on concerts and gives a list of concerts going back to 1996.

2013
No concerts.

2012
- Red hot chilli peppers, June 26
- Westlife, June 22 - 23

2011
- Take That, June 18, 19

2010
- westlife, June 5th

2009
- U2, July 24,25,27
- Take That, June 13

2008
- Celine Dion, May 30
- westlife, June 1
- Neil Diamond, June 14

2007
No concerts

2006
- Robbie Williams, June 9
- Bon Jovi, May 20

2005
- u2, June 24, 25, 27

1998
- Elton John and Billy Joel
May 29 - 30

1997
- Garth Brooks, May 29, 30

1996
- Tina Turner, June 28

So it's even clearer now that this years amount of concerts, including Garth Brooks back to backs would certainly set a precedent. All the GAA can say is "time moves on"? Thanks for the event history RiverOfLove. It's fairly obvious why the surrounding communities are annoyed and anyone can see why they have to make a stand.

Menas · 15-02-2014 09:22AM

RiverOfLove wrote: »

As if back to back concerts happen regularly.

This is a wiki page on Croke Park:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croke_Park

There is a section on concerts and gives a list of concerts going back to 1996.

2013
No concerts.

2012
- Red hot chilli peppers, June 26
- Westlife, June 22 - 23

2011
- Take That, June 18, 19

2010
- westlife, June 5th

2009
- U2, July 24,25,27
- Take That, June 13

2008
- Celine Dion, May 30
- westlife, June 1
- Neil Diamond, June 14

2007
No concerts

2006
- Robbie Williams, June 9
- Bon Jovi, May 20

2005
- u2, June 24, 25, 27

1998
- Elton John and Billy Joel
May 29 - 30

1997
- Garth Brooks, May 29, 30

1996
- Tina Turner, June 28

And people call the residents unreasonable? The precedent here is pretty clear.

wedger · 15-02-2014 10:21AM

Thanks ROL... That bit of wiki info has just hardened our (residents) case that the 8 concerts this year is an unprecedented escalation of NON-SPORTING events.

The agreement from 2009 was after Croke Park foisted 4 concerts on us. There were no objections to the concerts then just to the planning surrounding them.

The majority of residents may have agreed to all 8 events here if we were consulted as agreed. But because CP chose to ignore that agreement it just goes to show that the only thing the recognise is money.

So maybe if they are hit in the pocket for this one they may listen in future & stand by their agreement!

As for Aiken not knowing about the agreement. We'll that was very poor on the part of Croke park. These gigs didn't just come about over night they were months in the planning they would have looked at every little detail... Well all apart from one teeny weeny one that has now come back to bite them in the arse!!!

JRant · 15-02-2014 10:37AM

wedger wrote: »

Thanks ROL... That bit of wiki info has just hardened our (residents) case that the 8 concerts this year is an unprecedented escalation of NON-SPORTING events.

The agreement from 2009 was after Croke Park foisted 4 concerts on us. There were no objections to the concerts then just to the planning surrounding them.

The majority of residents may have agreed to all 8 events here if we were consulted as agreed. But because CP chose to ignore that agreement it just goes to show that the only thing the recognise is money.

So maybe if they are hit in the pocket for this one they may listen in future & stand by their agreement!

As for Aiken not knowing about the agreement. We'll that was very poor on the part of Croke park. These gigs didn't just come about over night they were months in the planning they would have looked at every little detail... Well all apart from one teeny weeny one that has now come back to bite them in the arse!!!

Very true and well said. There also seems to have been a noticable shift in residents thinking over the past week with a lot of it stemming from the meeting on Wednesday. Before the majority were happy enough for most of the gigs to go ahead if certain measures were undertaken. Now though the majority wont all gigs outside of the 3 agreed in 2009 to be cancelled. There are petitions being organised and it would seem they have quite a good case for an injunction to be issued if the gigs get a green light from DCC.

Talk about the GAA cutting of its nose just to spite its face.

Lukehandypants · 15-02-2014 10:47AM

http://entertainment.ie/music/news/Speculation-mounts-that-Garth-Brooks-concerts-may-be-cancelled-after-irate-residents-seek-injunction/242393.htm

http://www.tmz.com/2014/02/14/garth-brooks-cancel-concerts-croke-park-dublin-ireland-lawsuit-fans-piss-vomit/

Its made it to TMZ.

derokid · 15-02-2014 02:30PM

http://www.sundayworld.com/entertainment/in-this-weeks-sunday-world-free-glossy-garth-brooks-souvenir-mag

Ah well folks if all else fails at least the Sunday World might have 400,000 sales this weekend and 70,000 of them abroad even in Afghanistan!!!

Cos if I'm reading this right and the residents produce their agreement with Croke Park which looks very likely by Croke Parks silence, then this might be the nearest thing to Brooks in Croke Park this year!!!

end of the road · 15-02-2014 05:04PM

Smidge wrote: »

Take note ROL of the part in bold, this is when the residents raised issues with the agreement. FOUR CONCERTS NOT THREE.

Look at all of the other years.

THREE or less

You have the just made the residents argument for them right there.

yeah, you delude yourself that he has, 4 is 1 more then 3, hardly any difference, this is about you lot looking for a piece of the pie and thats it, the GAA pays you off and you'l shut up we all know how it works in ireland

end of the road · 15-02-2014 05:05PM

John_Rambo wrote: »

So it's even clearer now that this years amount of concerts, including Garth Brooks back to backs would certainly set a precedent. All the GAA can say is "time moves on"? Thanks for the event history RiverOfLove. It's fairly obvious why the surrounding communities are annoyed and anyone can see why they have to make a stand.

yeah, more concerts = they want more money to be payed to them its as simple as that, their effectively holding croke park to ransom, pay us off or else

15-02-2014 05:07PM

derokid wrote: »

http://www.sundayworld.com/entertainment/in-this-weeks-sunday-world-free-glossy-garth-brooks-souvenir-mag

Ah well folks if all else fails at least the Sunday World might have 400,000 sales this weekend and 70,000 of them abroad even in Afghanistan!!!

Cos if I'm reading this right and the residents produce their agreement with Croke Park which looks very likely by Croke Parks silence, then this might be the nearest thing to Brooks in Croke Park this year!!!

On the other hand the person who makes the final decision may decide time has moved on and that that agreement is outdated, along with the fact that 400,000+ people visiting the city will be a big boost to the local economy and decide to grant all 5 licences.

MagicMarker · 15-02-2014 05:09PM

Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »

On the other hand the person who makes the final decision may decide time has moved on and that that agreement is outdated, along with the fact that 400,000+ people visiting the city will be a big boost to the local economy and decide to grant all 5 licences.

Are you going to drive your tractor up?

B0jangles · 15-02-2014 05:11PM

Not everyone is as obsessed with getting as much free money off whoever they can as you appear to be.

I well remember your attitude from the thread about illegal turfcutting :

end of the road wrote: »

the state and some here want to protect the bogs badly enough so there fore will have to pay for it, so how about the state actually buy the protected bogs from the land owner, i say 1000000 per bog would be a good price, i'm sure those who are so uptight about habitats and species that the majority of people in this country don't know or care about will be willing to pay whatever the cost, otherwise get over the fact that people will cut turf on their land.

15-02-2014 05:11PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

Are you going to drive your tractor up?

Why would I do that?

end of the road · 15-02-2014 05:11PM

wedger wrote: »

The majority of residents may have agreed to all 8 events here if we were consulted as agreed.

yeah right, i'm sure you would, unless you were payed off of course then you might.

wedger wrote: »

because CP chose to ignore that agreement it just goes to show that the only thing the recognise is money.

and? their entitled to make money, were all entitled to make money

wedger wrote: »

maybe if they are hit in the pocket for this one they may listen in future & stand by their agreement!

so thats what this is about, compo, i knew it, i bluddy knew it, you want them to be hit in the pocket because your hoping some of that money will go to you.

super_furry · 15-02-2014 05:12PM

end of the road wrote: »

yeah, more concerts = they want more money to be payed to them its as simple as that, their effectively holding croke park to ransom, pay us off or else

Prove it. You keep saying this without a single shred of evidence, and indeed with the evidence being presented to you in direct contradiction of this. So prove it.

Baze · 15-02-2014 05:12PM

RiverOfLove wrote: »

2007
No concerts

Right, that's it, I'm seeing a shrink.

As I must have fecking imagined seeing The Police there in 2007.

end of the road · 15-02-2014 05:20PM

B0jangles wrote: »

Not everyone is as obsessed with getting as much free money off whoever they can as you appear to be.

I well remember your attitude from the thread about illegal turfcutting :

the turf cutters were having their lively hoods taken away from them, so you have no argument, i stand by everything i said in this thread and the turf cutting thread (not that turf cutting is relevant to this one)

end of the road · 15-02-2014 05:21PM

super_furry wrote: »

Prove it. You keep saying this without a single shred of evidence, and indeed with the evidence being presented to you in direct contradiction of this. So prove it.

the attitude from the residents who have posted here says it all to me, their not as innocent and hard done by as their trying to make out

B0jangles · 15-02-2014 05:26PM

It's relevant because it shows your views have absolutely no consistency and that you are fecking obsessed with compo.

end of the road · 15-02-2014 05:29PM

B0jangles wrote: »

It's relevant because it shows your views have absolutely no consistency and that you are fecking obsessed with compo.

it shows nothing, people having their livelyhoods removed vs. people who live beside a large venue who know its going to be used yet whine when it does, now who do you think i'm going to feel sorry for? yes, the people who are going to lose their livelyhoods

15-02-2014 05:31PM

B0jangles wrote: »

It's relevant because it shows your views have absolutely no consistency and that you are fecking obsessed with compo.

I'd happily accept money if it was handed to me for doing nothing, which is essentially what would happen if the residents were given compensation.

end of the road · 15-02-2014 05:31PM

derokid wrote: »

the residents produce their agreement with Croke Park

theirs no evidence such agreement exists, the residents aren't as innocent and hard done by as their trying to make out, the fact a small few people can effectively stop huge events that will attract people from far afield and cause businesses to lose out on potential business is sickening specially in this current climate when dublin and the economy as a whole could do with a boost

B0jangles · 15-02-2014 05:34PM

So it is a pure coincidence that Croke Park management have gone totally silent ever since it was established at the meeting that the agreement existed and that the residents had a copy?

RiverOfLove · 15-02-2014 05:35PM

Baze wrote: »

Right, that's it, I'm seeing a shrink.

As I must have fecking imagined seeing The Police there in 2007.

I wasn't there. I didn't know of it. I was using what was on the wiki page.

RiverOfLove · 15-02-2014 05:42PM

Didn't one of Croke Park's neighbours at Drumcondra recommend for moaners and begruders to go off and commit suicide. Not that I'm advocating that here. I believe advocating suicide is against the law. There's wasn't budge out from Porkie Pig's neighbours then.

JRant · 15-02-2014 05:48PM

end of the road wrote: »

the turf cutters were having their lively hoods taken away from them, so you have no argument, i stand by everything i said in this thread and the turf cutting thread (not that turf cutting is relevant to this one)

Lively hoods! What, were they painted bright yellow or something?

slavetothegrind · 15-02-2014 05:52PM

RiverOfLove wrote: »

Didn't one of Croke Park's neighbours at Drumcondra recommend for moaners and begruders to go off and commit suicide. Not that I'm advocating that here. I believe advocating suicide is against the law. There's wasn't budge out from Porkie Pig's neighbours then.

now don't be silly, you know certain people are above the law!

JRant · 15-02-2014 05:55PM

end of the road wrote: »

the attitude from the residents who have posted here says it all to me, their not as innocent and hard done by as their trying to make out

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Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

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