Examples of bullsh!ttery/gobsh!ttery in Irish life and culture

stmol32 · 15-02-2014 02:04AM

This is just typical Irish begrudgery.

This comes up quite a lot, and even more so on boards.
I don't think the average Irish person begrudges another Irish person their success at all.

Whenever a large group of people slag a person who's successful in their field (usually celebrities) there's always someone who says "this is typical Irish begrudgery"

They never seem to realise it might be just that we think the person in question is a twat.

zetalambda · 15-02-2014 02:12AM

donegal__road wrote: »

the 'fighting Irish'

Best post in this thread without a doubt.

Tin Foil Hat · 15-02-2014 02:21AM

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Do they do after school activities in civs? If so why? I see plenty of kids in uniform after school.

Of course you do. They don't walk home naked.
Do you lock your kids away outside of school hours? Are they not allowed out on evenings and weekends - in their own clothes?

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Uniforms are progressive,

My hole! On the contrary, they are a relic of our colonial past.

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

of course a 15 year old girl will be bullied if she wears the same outfit twice in one week, unless it's a uniform. And the poorer she is the more likely it is.

Bullsh1t. Even if was true we would be far better off tackling this head-on, rather than papering over it by forcing an exact outfit on teenagers.

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Uniforms are common worldwide.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_uniforms_by_country

A huge amount of countries where uniforms are common are former colonies of the British Empire. Like us, many of the thoughtlessly carried on as before.
Other countries use far simpler uniforms. In Brazil, for example, it's often t-shirt and jeans, not the god-awful 70's geography teacher outfit we force on our kids. But, quite frankly, I couldn't give a sh1t what other countries do. I'm arguing for how I would like it to be in my country.

cmore123 · 15-02-2014 02:29AM

To object to uniforms just because the Brits introduced them is crass. They also introduced bicycles, cars, buses, trams and trains to us. Do we walk everywhere?

Tin Foil Hat · 15-02-2014 02:35AM

cmore123 wrote: »

To object to uniforms just because the Brits introduced them is crass. They also introduced bicycles, cars, buses, trams and trains to us. Do we walk everywhere?

I don't object to them because they were introduced by the Brits. I'm explaining the historical reasons why we have them. We did not introduce them for any practical reasons. We kept them out of habit.
I object to uniforms because they are stupid, expensive, draconian and they impinge on the freedoms of children and families.

aidoh · 15-02-2014 02:36AM

People arguing about p0xy school uniforms for 3 pages seems like a good example of bullsh!ttery/gobsh!tery in Irish life and culture to me.
Let people post funny examples. JUST EAT THE DAMN ORANGE!

rustedtrumpet · 15-02-2014 02:40AM

That travellers are settled people

hfallada · 15-02-2014 02:41AM

The need to have everything translated into Irish. Most state agencies don't give a **** about it. Revenue to cut costs by only getting stuff translated a few times a year. Meaning the info is dated when it's finally translated

Tin Foil Hat · 15-02-2014 02:44AM

stmol32 wrote: »

This is just typical Irish begrudgery.

The begrudgery of the Irish is a myth perpetuated by rich arseholes who prefer to delude themselves into thinking that other Irish people dislike them because of their success rather than admit that they are disliked because they are arseholes. Bono and Bill Cullen, I'm looking at you. Bill has been rather quiet on the subject lately, hasn't he?:D

It's a also often used to defend mediocrity. Last Autumn Matt Cooper on The Last Word was doing an item on the finale of season 4 of Love/Hate. He dismissed many critical texts to the show as begrudgery. Season 4 of Love/Hate was truly awful, especially the final episode. Matt Cooper and Stuart Carolyn would know each other quite well.

zetalambda · 15-02-2014 02:52AM

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

The begrudgery of the Irish is a myth perpetuated by rich arseholes who prefer to delude themselves into thinking that other Irish people dislike them because of their success rather than admit that they are disliked because they are arseholes. Bono and Bill Cullen, I'm looking at you. Bill has been rather quiet on the subject lately, hasn't he?:D

It's a also often used to defend mediocrity. Last Autumn Matt Cooper on The Last Word was doing an item on the finale of season 4 of Love/Hate. He dismissed many critical texts to the show as begrudgery. Season 4 of Love/Hate was truly awful, especially the final episode. Matt Cooper and Stuart Carolyn would know each other quite well.

I'm speechless. :eek: It's one of the things I hate so much about this country. Bono and Bill Cullen are both people I admire and who call it exactly as it is.

stmol32 · 15-02-2014 02:54AM

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

Bono and Bill Cullen, I'm looking at you. Bill has been rather quiet on the subject lately, hasn't he?:D

I deliberately didn't mention names but to be honest these two were fairly high in the top twenty I had in the back of me mind.

Since I've started so.... Dave McSavage (I know you're a member of boards) we don't slag you because of your success, we just don't think your very funny.

If you disagree then ask yourself why Dara O'Briain is more successful as a comedian, and Irish too, and no-one gives him ****.

wil · 15-02-2014 02:59AM

zetalambda wrote: »

That Smithfield square is the largest open air plaza in Europe. I'm calling BS on this one. Certainly doesn't make it into this list: :pac:

http://www.europeish.com/25-amazingly-stunning-european-squares/

.
That the Dundrum Shopping Centre is one of the biggest in the World, Europe, "British Isles",
Wouldn't even make it in to the top 30 in the UK

Phoenix Park is pretty big though and better shopping:)

Tin Foil Hat · 15-02-2014 03:00AM

zetalambda wrote: »

I'm speechless. :eek: It's one of the things I hate so much about this country. Bono and Bill Cullen are both people I admire and who call it exactly as it is.

They're both hard working, talented, successful people. For that i also admire them both. But, christ, they both come across like pains in the hole.

stmol32 · 15-02-2014 03:06AM

zetalambda wrote: »

I'm speechless. :eek: It's one of the things I hate so much about this country. Bono and Bill Cullen are both people I admire and who call it exactly as it is.

It's absolutely fine if you admire them. There's no problem there.
People can disagree with you and you can in turn disagree with them.
That's all valid.

My problem is first when defenders, instead of disagreeing on points just say "aah that's just begrudgery". Thats no an argument in my opinion.

I have a bigger problem with the same people who use that non-argument and then try to say it's an inherent "Irish" trait so we don't need to debate anything because detractors are just working from some template instead of looking closely at Bono's many public statements and making a considered opinion on his character (and whatever Bill Cullen does, I'm out on a limb here but I want to say pet insurance?)

Sir Arthur Daley · 15-02-2014 03:08AM

The Rose of Tralee.

sawdoubters · 15-02-2014 03:10AM

25 year old virgins

zetalambda · 15-02-2014 03:13AM

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

They're both hard working, talented, successful people. For that i also admire them both. But, christ, they both come across like pains in the hole.

I know what you mean! Think it just comes with being that successful and having such high standards (and a massive ego).
And even though I admire them, they're the last two people in the world I'd like to work for or under.

MonaPizza · 15-02-2014 03:23AM

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

Children will pick on each other for anything. You're full of shite if you say you wore a uniform to school and nobody got picked on as a result.

Kids will pick on each other for anything but at least the school uniform removes a few reason for targeting another kid, i.e. cheapo jumper, cheapo jeans, colour of shirt/trousers etc.

Kids in uniform are less likely to misbehave outside of school hours (lunchtime, heading home, etc) if they are in uniform as they are more easily identifiable.
When the uniform was introduced in my scondary school we all bitched about it but once we started wearing it nobody really gave a fcuk.

Sir Arthur Daley · 15-02-2014 03:24AM

The kids will pick on each other now for what model iphone they have not to mind the uniform.

Tin Foil Hat · 15-02-2014 03:25AM

zetalambda wrote: »

I know what you mean! Think it just comes with being that successful and having such high standards (and a massive ego).

It's not just that (well, it is for Cullen).

Take Bono. He wants to take money out of the pockets of normal families to pay for hims pet project, while he moves his money from country to country to pay the bear minimum of tax on his one billion quid. He really is the highest order of cuunt.

MonaPizza · 15-02-2014 03:36AM

zetalambda wrote: »

I'm speechless. :eek: It's one of the things I hate so much about this country. Bono and Bill Cullen are both people I admire and who call it exactly as it is.

Bono's a fcuking hyprocrite. He sings songs about injustice ....Sunday, Bloody Sunday, Pride, Miss Sarajevo, etc. yet kisses war-criminals arses.

At least people like John Mellencamp stick to their principles. When John McCain and the Republican Party used "Little Pink Houses" as their campaign song for McCain's presidential bid Mellencamp said "Sorry folks but you're not using my song. I oppose your agenda."

Bono by comparison would probably allow them provided they paid handsomely (into an offshore, tax free account).

CrabRevolution · 15-02-2014 03:46AM

I think I read somewhere (possibly wikipedia) that Griffith Avenue in Glasnevin is the longest tree lined avenue in the Northern Hemisphere with no shops on it or something.

It's so incredibly unnoteworthy, and how did whoever typed that not realise the ridiculousness of what they were saying? If I attached that many random conditions to something, I could have about 100 things in my house alone that are unique or record breaking in the some sense.

That said, none of these things are particularly Irish aside from their location, ridiculous and bull****ty alright, but you'll have that everywhere.

gammygils · 15-02-2014 04:11AM

Big Ignorant Celtic Tiger Mansions with 6+ bedrooms all en suite with a fukkin bidet but can only afford to heat one room! And yet only have 2 kids
Inhabited by sun glasses on head wearing, false accented, fake tanned, MPV driving Desperate Housewives with perfect kids.
And never stop blowin shlte about their conservatory and their cedarwood floors and whatever.
Just because they got a free site from the oul lad!

Gobsh!tes who were reared sharing a bedroom with 2 others looking out at a
****ln cow shed & smellin it!

Typical example of Irish Gobsh!ttery!!!

MadsL · 15-02-2014 09:02AM

One off housing. Lines of ugly bungalows and McMansions on every fucking lane and road.

Plates · 15-02-2014 09:21AM

gammygils wrote: »

Big Ignorant Celtic Tiger Mansions with 6+ bedrooms all en suite with a fukkin bidet but can only afford to heat one room! And yet only have 2 kids
Inhabited by sun glasses on head wearing, false accented, fake tanned, MPV driving Desperate Housewives with perfect kids.
And never stop blowin shlte about their conservatory and their cedarwood floors and whatever.
Just because they got a free site from the oul lad!

Gobsh!tes who were reared sharing a bedroom with 2 others looking out at a
****ln cow shed & smellin it!

Typical example of Irish Gobsh!ttery!!!

Angry man spouting stereotypes alert!

padd b1975 · 15-02-2014 09:21AM

The candle in the window of the Aras.

Arthur Beesley · 15-02-2014 09:48AM

Brian O'Driscoll and Amy Hooverman.

Sunnyisland · 15-02-2014 09:57AM

You tested positive for being negative ...

rovoagho · 15-02-2014 10:01AM

zetalambda wrote: »

That Smithfield square is the largest open air plaza in Europe. I'm calling BS on this one. Certainly doesn't make it into this list: :pac:

http://www.europeish.com/25-amazingly-stunning-european-squares/

Yeah, because that's a well-researched academic resource, and not an AdSense whore post on a crap website.

Arthur Beesley · 15-02-2014 10:04AM

Michael D Hobbit. He even sounds like one.

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