Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

wedger · 13-02-2014 09:45PM

As was said last night at the meeting... these gigs have gone global!!! Well guess what so has the panic caused by the meeting last night! It's being covered by Dublin radio stations today national and international Tomorro... Croke Park sh1tting themselves over the bad media this is brining to them and Aiken.

For the stadium director to publicly renege on an agreement and then have it splashed all over the press... So much for his marketeer of the year... he aint getting it next year..... Noooooooooooooo Way!!!!

13-02-2014 10:14PM

ProfessorPlum wrote: »

Jesus, I was up on tractors as a young kid, driving them from when I could just about handle a bike, but it doesn't change the fact that having small children on tractors is dangerous.
It is unbelievable that people on this thread who it seems are from rural areas don't seem to realise this risk.
I hope to god that none of you are farming, and if you are that you don't have kids to put in danger.
And the line of 'assessing the risks' or what ever - yeah - you assess the risk and mitigate it by not letting your toddler up on the tractor.
Blatant disregard for child safety, much like the remark earlier in the thread that it was over mollycoddling kids to let them play in their front gardens beside Croker with 400,000 strangers walking by. Are you people out of your minds????

I'll tell you one thing a toddler would be safer sitting in the passenger seat of the tractor beside me than crossing any road in Dublin or driving around in a car.

I also spent most of my youth up in the cab of a tractor like most young lads growing up on farms and I never even nearly got hurt and tractor weren't half as safe as they are now.

super_furry · 13-02-2014 10:14PM

bumper234 wrote: »

Yup

For our country cousins who may not have heard, EVERY Dublin radio station has had as their top story the report about last nights meeting between Croke park management and the residents of the surrounding area. This is starting to get a LOT of exposure and no matter what you all think it will be the Dublin counsillors who will be making the decision on these licences. Dublin councillors who will be looking for votes soon in the local elections.

And they already know which was the wind is blowing....."Myself and my fellow councillors in the central area which surrounds Croke Park voted unanimously on Tuesday that we would object to the licence, unless the residents and business interests and all stakeholders were happy with what the GAA were proposing to do on those nights."

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/garth-brooks-gigs-residents-set-to-object-to-licence-application-622590.html

John_Rambo · 13-02-2014 10:19PM

I'd imagine this thread had been read by a lot of people. I know a few journalists are following it closely and the're not alone. Nox, End of the Road, HardLuckWoman and friends are not doing their cause any favours at all.

Antagonistic, aggressive, bullying and downright ignorance, every one of their arguements proven wrong. Playing right in to the hands of the Drumcondra residents.

You couldn't pay for better reverse PR.

wedger · 13-02-2014 10:20PM

A GAA spokesman would only confirm the meeting took place. “We will be making no further comment to the media while we continue our consultative process.”

think the above statement from croke park is deafening in its silence. This from one of the biggest media teams in Ireland. When asked about the agreement with the locals... they refused to comment!

No agreement eh???

Bring on the fun and games.....

http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/gaa-and-residents-clash-over-garth-brooks-concerts-1.1690682

13-02-2014 10:36PM

John_Rambo wrote: »

I'd imagine this thread had been read by a lot of people. I know a few journalists are following it closely and the're not alone. Nox, End of the Road, HardLuckWoman and friends are not doing their cause any favours at all.

Antagonistic, aggressive, bullying and downright ignorance, every one of their arguements proven wrong. Playing right in to the hands of the Drumcondra residents.

You couldn't pay for better reverse PR.

Let them read it all they want. The fact the matter is the residents should have no say in weather the concert goes ahead or not and it really will be a sad sad day for this country if such a big a prestigious event that many people have been looking forward to for years is cancelled over the sake of a few days of disruption.

The residents have their other 330 odd days of normality and us fans miss out on something we are really looking forward to. Karma will catch up with them if it happens that's or sure.

wedger · 13-02-2014 10:40PM

contingency plan already being considered:

http://www.redfm.ie/news/hopes-high-garth-brooks-concert-cork/

John_Rambo · 13-02-2014 10:41PM

Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »

The fact the matter is the residents should have no say in weather the concert goes ahead

Well as you know the GAA have broken an agreement and I'm sure you like to have a say about what goes on in your neighbourhood/locality/parish? I certainly do! Don't know why you feel these people shouldn't have a say... but keep digging, you're doing a good job.

Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »

Karma will catch up with them if it happens that's or sure.

By that I presume you mean to follow up with you're previous threat of defiling their properties?

super_furry · 13-02-2014 10:42PM

Would make sense to have at least two dates in Cork if not more. Would probably be a lot handier for many of those with tickets aswell.

ProfessorPlum · 13-02-2014 10:43PM

Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »

I'll tell you one thing a toddler would be safer sitting in the passenger seat of the tractor beside me than crossing any road in Dublin or driving around in a car.

Yeah. Whatever. The statistics don't back you up on that.

Anyway, I though we were talking about Croke Park...

13-02-2014 10:46PM

John_Rambo wrote: »

By that I presume you mean to follow up with you're previous threat of defiling their properties?

I was thinking more along the lines of multiple replays in both football and hurling matches meaning multiple extra days in croke park along with maybe a few American football games next year which can't be stopped as they are sporting events.

bumper234 · 13-02-2014 10:50PM

Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »

I was thinking more along the lines of multiple replays in both football and hurling matches meaning multiple extra days in croke park along with maybe a few American football games next year which can't be stopped as they are sporting events.

You mean the countries football and hurling teams should fix matches to end in a draw if you don't get to see fat boy sing? Cop the **** on would you.

Smidge · 13-02-2014 10:51PM

Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »

I was thinking more along the lines of multiple replays in both football and hurling matches meaning multiple extra days in croke park along with maybe a few American football games next year which can't be stopped as they are sporting events.

I don't think the residents would have any problem with a few extra replays next year tbh. It wouldn't be the first time that were to happen.
And that's nowhere near as annoying as listening to Brooks warble out dated songs.
So. Not. Really. Karma.

Smidge · 13-02-2014 10:52PM

wedger wrote: »

contingency plan already being considered:

http://www.redfm.ie/news/hopes-high-garth-brooks-concert-cork/

The pressure really needs to be kept up on them now at this stage.
I think its fair to say that GAA/Aiken fouled the ball and are now seeing that come home to them.

chinguetti · 13-02-2014 11:00PM

Folks if its been reported correctly that a local councillor said at the meeting last night that the stadium manager stood up and said that a signed agreement from 2009 was going to be ignored by Croke Park in 2014 as 'times had changed', the residents have an open goal to win the match no matter how long the match goes on for.

A signed agreement will stand up in a court room, regardless of how many tickets have been sold. Croke Park would appear to have broken their side of the contract. Did the present management forget what was signed in 2009?

John_Rambo · 13-02-2014 11:01PM

Smidge wrote: »

I think its fair to say that GAA/Aiken fouled the ball and are now seeing that come home to them.

One of the first black cards?

HeidiHeidi · 13-02-2014 11:01PM

Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »

I was thinking more along the lines of multiple replays in both football and hurling matches meaning multiple extra days in croke park along with maybe a few American football games next year which can't be stopped as they are sporting events.

Clearly an honours graduate of charm school.

Anyone get the impression we're feeding a troll here? (I've been slapped before for saying that, so apologies mods if I'm out of order - but I honestly think I'm right this time - nobody could actually be this obnoxious, could they

)

NewMrs2b · 13-02-2014 11:16PM

Making an uneducated post here, I am neither gb fan or a resident. I think the fans need to acknowledg that Aiken will have gb play in Ireland, possibly not cp but they wont just cancel two concerts. However the residents are 100% correct an agreement is an agreement and if someone stood in front of me and said yeah I know we said that but well eh yeah not any more! Shocking behaviour really. Ra have my support.

Also my very well behaved 3yr old kept waking up at road works that need to be carried out at night since Monday finished last night I agree with the comments she was so out of her routine.

Smidge · 13-02-2014 11:35PM

NewMrs2b wrote: »

Making an uneducated post here, I am neither gb fan or a resident. I think the fans need to acknowledg that Aiken will have gb play in Ireland, possibly not cp but they wont just cancel two concerts. However the residents are 100% correct an agreement is an agreement and if someone stood in front of me and said yeah I know we said that but well eh yeah not any more! Shocking behaviour really. Ra have my support.

Also my very well behaved 3yr old kept waking up at road works that need to be carried out at night since Monday finished last night I agree with the comments she was so out of her routine.

Tbh, it has nothing to do with Mr Brooks.
As you rightly say, and agreement is an agreement.
If this was to be forgiven this time, the residents may throw their hat at it altogether.
But considering that Lord Henry stated today that Slane castle will be no events this year, I'm at a loss as to where these 2 extra concerts could be held?

Smidge · 13-02-2014 11:39PM

chinguetti wrote: »

Folks if its been reported correctly that a local councillor said at the meeting last night that the stadium manager stood up and said that a signed agreement from 2009 was going to be ignored by Croke Park in 2014 as 'times had changed', the residents have an open goal to win the match no matter how long the match goes on for.

A signed agreement will stand up in a court room, regardless of how many tickets have been sold. Croke Park would appear to have broken their side of the contract. Did the present management forget what was signed in 2009?

I think(and open to correction here)what was said by the new manager said(as per a person who was at the meeting)was that "That's in the past, I wasn't here when that agreement was made and things have changed and we are going to move on" That's obv not verbatim but you get my drift

It would seem that it has been chosen by GAA to forget what was aggreed.

NewMrs2b · 13-02-2014 11:44PM

Smidge wrote: »

Tbh, it has nothing to do with Mr Brooks.
As you rightly say, and agreement is an agreement.
If this was to be forgiven this time, the residents may throw their hat at it altogether.
But considering that Lord Henry stated today that Slane castle will be no events this year, I'm at a loss as to where these 2 extra concerts could be held?

I just wanted to highlight I wasnt a fan as such and also didnt have a 'resident' contact either. 100% agree zilch to do with gb he just signed up to play.

smileyj1987 · 13-02-2014 11:45PM

Smidge wrote: »

The pressure really needs to be kept up on them now at this stage.
I think its fair to say that GAA/Aiken fouled the ball and are now seeing that come home to them.

What shows this the most is the fact the GAA / Aiken haven't came out and said

" We are going ahead with the shows and they won't be cancelled at all "

I mean the silence from them is a very big indicator that they have made a complete mess up of the situation .

NewMrs2b · 13-02-2014 11:47PM

Smidge wrote: »

Tbh, it has nothing to do with Mr Brooks.
As you rightly say, and agreement is an agreement.
If this was to be forgiven this time, the residents may throw their hat at it altogether.
But considering that Lord Henry stated today that Slane castle will be no events this year, I'm at a loss as to where these 2 extra concerts could be held?

Dya think they could have a longer 'residence' elsewhere and split the fans over more nights for the last two night? I have no idea where just a thought.

Ace2007 · 13-02-2014 11:48PM

Smidge wrote: »

Tbh, it has nothing to do with Mr Brooks.
As you rightly say, and agreement is an agreement.
If this was to be forgiven this time, the residents may throw their hat at it altogether.
But considering that Lord Henry stated today that Slane castle will be no events this year, I'm at a loss as to where these 2 extra concerts could be held?

you do realise it's 5 concerts that could potentially need to be moved and not just 2?

Smidge · 13-02-2014 11:51PM

NewMrs2b wrote: »

Dya think they could have a longer 'residence' elsewhere and split the fans over more nights for the last two night? I have no idea where just a thought.

I have no idea where that could possibly be though tbh.
Slane holds 80/100 k but that seems like a no hoper.
Possibly the Park?

Although on second thoughts, this would prob not suit the promoters/money men/Mr Brooks.
If the have to reduce numbers to allow the gigs to be spread out over more nights, thats going to seriously eat into profits

NewMrs2b · 13-02-2014 11:54PM

Smidge wrote: »

I have no idea where that could possibly be though tbh.
Slane holds 80/100 k but that seems like a no hoper.
Possibly the Park?

Although on second thoughts, this would prob not suit the promoters/money men/Mr Brooks.
If the have to reduce numbers to allow the gigs to be spread out over more nights, thats going to seriously eat into profits

That's true. I just wonder if the licence isn't granted is it all out cancel or try relocate but like ya say when it come to €€ that's all the matters.

smileyj1987 · 13-02-2014 11:54PM

Smidge wrote: »

I have no idea where that could possibly be though tbh.
Slane holds 80/100 k but that seems like a no hoper.
Possibly the Park?

Although on second thoughts, this would prob not suit the promoters/money men/Mr Brooks.
If the have to reduce numbers to allow the gigs to be spread out over more nights, thats going to seriously eat into profits

Semple Stadium in Thurles hold 53, 500

Gaelic Grounds in Limerick holds 49 866

They could be options if the Gaa don't want to loose tickets or you could go to one of the Race Courses like Punchestown .

Smidge · 13-02-2014 11:55PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

you do realise it's 5 concerts that could potentially need to be moved and not just 2?

Nothing is sure at this stage, thats for sure :P
Its ironic that if the GAA/Aiken /GB hadnt wanted to milk the cash cow till she was dry and left it at the 3 initial GB concerts, they may have very well have gotten away with it.
As it stands now, I think they have royally shot themselves in the foot, for this summer(Garth Brooks) and for every future concert that wants to be held in CP.

Smidge · 14-02-2014 12:03AM

smileyj1987 wrote: »

Semple Stadium in Thurles hold 53, 500

Gaelic Grounds in Limerick holds 49 866

They could be options if the Gaa don't want to loose tickets or you could go to one of the Race Courses like Punchestown .

Like I say though Smiley, this will mean longer teams on the ground(elec, support staff,lighting yada yada)it would mean possibly 7 nights instead of 5.
I still have the feeling that there will be 3 Garth Brooks concerts going ahead at CP and refunds for the other 2 nights.

smileyj1987 · 14-02-2014 12:13AM

Smidge wrote: »

Like I say though Smiley, this will mean longer teams on the ground(elec, support staff,lighting yada yada)it would mean possibly 7 nights instead of 5.
I still have the feeling that there will be 3 Garth Brooks concerts going ahead at CP and refunds for the other 2 nights.

You could be right about refunds who knows what will happen but I was just giving some alternative venues that could be used .
I just hope the Residents of the area keep the pressure up and you's don't back down from Aiken and the GAA .

Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

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