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The Origin of Specious Nonsense. Twelve years on. Still going. Answer soon.

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  • #932
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Creationist questions answered

    http://m.imgur.com/gallery/PbBTk


  • #933
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Brian Shanahan wrote: »
    Why should I respect someone who is deliberately lying to me (Ken Ham)?

    Given his posting level on the site, I'd put good money on JC failing his 11+.
    A spot of name calling and an ad hominem ... you guys really do need to 'lift your game'!!!:)


  • #934
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    shruikan2553 wrote: »
    What did God think would happen when they ate the fruit he told them not to eat? "Hey guy, just do me a favor and dont eat that stuff over there. It does....something.....we're still looking into what it is but I doubt its good."
    God plainly told them they would surely die if the partook of Satan's occult knowledge 'tree' system.
    shruikan2553 wrote: »
    If god was truly powerful he would be able to remove sin without needing any ritual. That along with the fact he couldn't keep an eye on 2 people makes him look quite incompetent.
    God is both perfectly just and perfectly merciful. His justice demands retribution for sin ... and His mercy demands forgiveness for all who ask.
    God's justice is satisfied throught the suffering and death of Jesus Christ ... and His mercy is therefore freely available to all who repent and ask for it.
    shruikan2553 wrote: »
    Im not even going to start on the whole incest thing.
    Darwin is dead ... so there is no need to keep dragging up his marriage to his first cousin. I'll say nothing about it if you don't!!!;)
    shruikan2553 wrote: »
    Also responsible for out ancestors. Should the child of a criminal be forced to complete the sentence of their parents?
    If the parents were to do something horrenduous and on a Global Scale, like Adam and Eve did ... the children would be forced to live with the after-effects of their parents actions.


  • #935
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 52,035 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    @JC: considering you openly support Mr. Ham who has admitted no evidence will convince him the bible account of creation is wrong, it's quit amusing to see you suggest other posters raise their game. Pot, kettle and all that.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • #936
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    _Redzer_ wrote: »
    Be saved from myself? Yeah I don't think so.

    Do the other gods feel the same way, or is it just Jesus?
    We are often our own worst enemy!!

    ... there is only One God who will Save you.


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  • #937
    J C
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    SW wrote: »
    @JC: considering you openly support Mr. Ham who has admitted no evidence will convince him the bible account of creation is wrong, it's quit amusing to see you suggest other posters raise their game. Pot, kettle and all that.
    I have also found that no amount of evidence has convinced many materialists that God exists ... so I guess dogmatism is to be found on both sides of the origins argument.

    As for me ... I could be convinced that the Biblical account of Creation is wrong ... indeed I once believed that it was wrong.

    ... it took me ten years of denial to eventually accept that materialistic evolution was fundamentally flawed and scientifically invalid.


  • #938
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 52,035 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    J C wrote: »
    I have found that no amount of evidence has convinced many materialists that God exists ... so I guess dogmatism is to be found on both sides of the origins argument.
    May I ask when you received your nobel prize for confirming the existence of God?
    As for me ... I could be convinced that the Biblical account of Creation is wrong ... indeed I once believed that it was wrong.

    ... it took me ten years of denial to eventually accept that materialistic evolution was fundamentally flawed and scientifically invalid.

    So you could be convinced that the bible is wrong. This after you rejected all current understanding and evidence for evolution? You realise that makes no sense at all. How could you be convinced when you reject evidence in favour of the bible? It doesn't sound like you'd be open to reconsidering your support for creationism at all.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • #939
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,247 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    J C wrote: »
    Darwin is dead ... so there is no need to keep dragging up his marriage to his first cousin. I'll say nothing about it if you don't!!!;)

    Jesus Christ is dead. That doesn't stop you going on about him ad nauseam.


  • #940
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Jesus Christ is dead. That doesn't stop you going on about him ad nauseam.
    Jesus Christ rose from the dead ... has ascended into Heaven ... and will one day return to judge the living and the dead.

    ... and I have no problem discussing Darwin 'keeping it in the family' by marrying his first cousin.:)


  • #941
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,247 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    J C wrote: »
    Jesus Christ ... will one day return to judge the living and the dead.

    They've been saying that for 2000 years now. He ain't coming back.


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  • #942
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    J C wrote: »
    God plainly told them they would surely die if the partook of Satan's occult knowledge 'tree' system.

    God is both perfectly just and perfectly merciful. His justice demands retribution for sin ... and His mercy demands forgiveness for all who ask.
    God's justice is satisfied throught the suffering and death of Jesus Christ ... and His mercy is therefore freely available to all who repent and ask for it.

    Darwin is dead ... so there is no need to keep dragging up his marriage to his first cousin. I'll say nothing about it if you don't!!!;)

    If the parents were to do something horrenduous and on a Global Scale, like Adam and Eve did ... the children would be forced to live with the after-effects of their parents actions.

    This is how North Korea treats people, maybe Kim Jung Il is your god. You should go there and let us know how you get on.


  • #943
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    J C wrote: »
    We are often our own worst enemy!!

    ... there is only One God who will Save you.

    Which one though, there are thousands.


  • #944
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    SW wrote: »
    May I ask when you received your nobel prize for confirming the existence of God?
    That honour will one day belong to the ID pioneer researchers.
    I am merely standing on the shoulders of 'ID giants'.:)

    SW wrote: »
    So you could be convinced that the bible is wrong. This after you rejected all current understanding and evidence for evolution? You realise that makes no sense at all. How could you be convinced when you reject evidence in favour of the bible? It doesn't sound like you'd be open to reconsidering your support for creationism at all.
    Are you open to consider the evidence for Creation?
    Like I have said, I used be just like you ... until I realised (after a long period of denial) that the evdience pointed overwhelmingly away from Evolution and towards Creation.


  • #945
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    bumper234 wrote: »
    This is how North Korea treats people, maybe Kim Jung Il is your god. You should go there and let us know how you get on.
    Kim is an illiberal Secularist and an Atheist ... so, I guess, he could be your 'god' if you want him!!!:)


  • #946
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 52,035 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    J C wrote: »
    That honour will one day belong to the ID pioneer researchers.
    I am merely standing on the shoulders of 'ID giants'.:)
    so no proof then. good to clear that up.
    Are you open to consider the evidence for Creation?
    sure. Though it doesn't bode well seeing as one of the most vocal proponents for creationism is on record as saying no evidence will convince him that evolution is in line with reality. It's a very anti-science attitude tbh.
    Like I have said, I used be just like you ... until I realised (after a long period of denial) that the evdience pointed overwhelmingly away from Evolution and towards Creation.
    Well that would happen when a person ignores modern science.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • #947
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,247 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    J C wrote: »
    Kim is an illiberal Secularist and an Atheist ... so, I guess, he could be your 'god' if you want him!!!:)

    He's most definitely not a secularist, and probably not an atheist, either. As far as the North Koreans are concerned, He is their God and He is the one true state religion.


  • #948
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 52,035 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    J C wrote: »
    Kim is an illiberal Secularist and an Atheist ... so, I guess, he could be your 'god' if you want him!!!:)

    I hear he's fond of cheese sandwiches too :rolleyes:

    anywho, you'd do well to take your own advice....
    J C wrote: »
    you guys really do need to 'lift your game'!!!:)

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • #949
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    They've been saying that for 2000 years now. He ain't coming back.
    I respectfully suggest that you read 2 Peter 3.


  • #950
    bumper234
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    J C wrote: »
    Kim is an illiberal Secularist and an Atheist ... so, I guess, he could be your 'god' if you want him!!!:)

    But I don't have a god.


  • #951
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,851 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    J C wrote: »
    Darwin is dead ... so there is no need to keep dragging up his marriage to his first cousin. I'll say nothing about it if you don't!!!;)
    Genesis 4:17 - Cain knew his wife, and she gave birth to Enoch.

    Who was Cain's wife?


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  • #952
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,247 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    J C wrote: »
    I respectfully suggest that you read 2 Peter 3.

    I scoff at your [tedious] proselytizing.


  • #953
    J C
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    Pherekydes wrote: »
    He's most definitely not a secularist, and probably not an atheist, either. As far as the North Koreans are concerned, He is their God and He is the one true state religion.
    He is the ultimate Secularist ... state and 'god' all wrapped up in one person!!;)


  • #954
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 52,035 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    J C wrote: »
    He is the ultimate Secularist ... state and 'god' all wrapped up in one person!!;)

    the English language disagrees with you. Any more specious nonsense up the sleeves?

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • #955
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,247 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    J C wrote: »
    He is the ultimate Secularist ... state and 'god' all wrapped up in one person!!;)

    Eh, that's the opposite of secularism.


  • #956
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    J C wrote: »
    He is the ultimate Secularist ... state and 'god' all wrapped up in one person!!;)

    Then you wonder why posters claim you would fail your 11+:rolleyes:


  • #957
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Genesis 4:17 - Cain knew his wife, and she gave birth to Enoch.

    Who was Cain's wife?
    Most likely his sister.


  • #958
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,851 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    J C wrote: »
    Most likely his sister.
    And God was cool with that? Is it still OK now?


  • #959
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,151 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    J C wrote: »
    He is the ultimate Secularist ... state and 'god' all wrapped up in one person!!;)
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  • #960
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    And God was cool with that? Is it still OK now?
    It's not OK now ... nor for several thousand years.
    ... and marrying your uncle's daughter isn't a good idea either ... as Darwin should have known ... but apparently didn't.

    The answer is here:-
    http://www.biblegateway.com/resources/all-women-bible/Cain-8217-s-Wife


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  • #961
    J C
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    PopePalpatine wrote: »
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    Kim is a form of Secular 'god'.


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